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New Mexico is pretty bad all around in regard to athletics. Not to say there cannot be a few diamonds in the rough.....

I'd keep an eye out for safeties from Lovington.

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Why in God's green earth would anyone want to waste their time watching this lol

I'm a Michigan fan, and even I didn't watch the spring game. I think Spring games are a complete waste of time. Only thing that matters is what they do on Saturdays. I've seen enough practice warriors get hype and then not do a thing once they get in the games but stink up the joint.

I did see the 2 min clips of Ty Isaac. He's dropped weight and looks a little quicker, smoother. He was the only RB on the entire roster last year to pop a long run. He busted a 78 yard TD run and then was never heard from again because in the next game he missed a couple blocking assignments and fumbled the ball. There were also a lot of reports that he was in Harbaugh's dog-house for his attitude and some off-field stuff.

Still think Ty was a 5* recruit for good reason. Still think he is the most talented RB we have on the roster imo.
 

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New Mexico is pretty bad all around in regard to athletics. Not to say there cannot be a few diamonds in the rough.....

very true. Samuels is a freakish athlete with good size. He's got the kind of explosion that none of the backs in the 2017 class or in Harbaugh's first class (2016) have. He looks like a steal.
 

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very true. Samuels is a freakish athlete with good size. He's got the kind of explosion that none of the backs in the 2017 class or in Harbaugh's first class (2016) have. He looks like a steal.

Zach Gentry was a steal from NM at one point..... moved from QB to TE....
 

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I'll put my money on Samuels going to LSU, a Big 12 team or A&M. His family is from Louisiana. I think he did a Barnett/ND move. Wait till all the world is watching at The Opening Finals. A 140+ Sparq is not finished stackin' offers.
 

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Zach Gentry was a steal from NM at one point..... moved from QB to TE....

he's really athletic for a 6'7, 240 pound kid. If he keeps filling out that frame and works on his craft he could be a killer TE. Think it's pretty obvious that QB just wasn't in the cards for him. Little 6'1, 210 pound 3* Alex Malzone who came in the same class as Gentry was way ahead of him over the last year plus, and early enrollee Brandon Peters was ahead of him as well.
 

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I'll put my money on Samuels going to LSU, a Big 12 team or A&M. His family is from Louisiana. I think he did a Barnett/ND move. Wait till all the world is watching at The Opening Finals. A 140+ Sparq is not finished stackin' offers.

who would go to A&M voluntarily at this point? That program is in shambles and losing players left and right.

We'll see. Even though he's a 3* to 247 and a low 4* to Rivals, I'd be pretty ticked off if he flipped to another school. Samuels is just a ridiculous athlete. Don't really have anything like him at RB. Plus I think if he sticks it'll allow Michigan to transition AJ Dillon to ILB, where I believe is his best fit at the next level and beyond.
 

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he's really athletic for a 6'7, 240 pound kid. If he keeps filling out that frame and works on his craft he could be a killer TE. Think it's pretty obvious that QB just wasn't in the cards for him. Little 6'1, 210 pound 3* Alex Malzone who came in the same class as Gentry was way ahead of him over the last year plus, and early enrollee Brandon Peters was ahead of him as well.

Anyone out of NM will be a project and will probably be behind.
 

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Eno Benjamin Says Michigan Has a Spot for Him if He Chooses to Commit

Michigan has three running back commits in the 2017 class, and it's only April. However, could a fourth be possible? Benjamin says that the Wolverines do consider him a take should he commit to the program.

Michigan also has a FB commit in the 2017 class.

Benjamin would be their highest ranking RB commit so far, announcing April 18. Assuming A.J. Dillion moves to ILB, the other two are O'Maury Samuels, a 4*, and Kurt Taylor, a 3*.

Taylor committed October 19, 2015. A Michigan blog spoke highly of Taylor at the time. His other offers included: Cincinnati, Colorado State, Georgia Southern, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Navy, Rutgers, Vanderbilt.

For 2017 Michigan would have four RBs returning plus those signed from the 2017 class.
 

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Eno Benjamin Says Michigan Has a Spot for Him if He Chooses to Commit



Michigan also has a FB commit in the 2017 class.

Benjamin would be their highest ranking RB commit so far, announcing April 18. Assuming A.J. Dillion moves to ILB, the other two are O'Maury Samuels, a 4*, and Kurt Taylor, a 3*.

Taylor committed October 19, 2015. A Michigan blog spoke highly of Taylor at the time. His other offers included: Cincinnati, Colorado State, Georgia Southern, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Navy, Rutgers, Vanderbilt.

For 2017 Michigan would have four RBs returning plus those signed from the 2017 class.

That's OK, come January Coach Harbaugh can just let some people know their offers are no longer valid giving them a good 3-4 weeks to find another school.
 

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Eno Benjamin Says Michigan Has a Spot for Him if He Chooses to Commit



Michigan also has a FB commit in the 2017 class.

Benjamin would be their highest ranking RB commit so far, announcing April 18. Assuming A.J. Dillion moves to ILB, the other two are O'Maury Samuels, a 4*, and Kurt Taylor, a 3*.

Taylor committed October 19, 2015. A Michigan blog spoke highly of Taylor at the time. His other offers included: Cincinnati, Colorado State, Georgia Southern, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Navy, Rutgers, Vanderbilt.

For 2017 Michigan would have four RBs returning plus those signed from the 2017 class.

Eno could end up a slot. He tore it up in 7v7 and made a name for himself in the passing game. One or two of those guys aren't going to Ann Arbor.
 

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NCAA bans satellite camps effective immediately

They're already calling it the "Harbaugh rule." In any case, this kind of sucks for Midwest schools. Looks like the B1G, MAC, and CUSA were the only conferences that were in favor of keeping these.

It doesn't give any info in the piece. Will that shut down ND's Camp Steinbrenner at Culver?

*The SEC and ACC had been working under a 50 mile radius rule and that covers Culver. It's only 43 miles away.


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It doesn't give any info in the piece. Will that shut down ND's Camp Steinbrenner at Culver?

*The SEC and ACC had been working under a 50 mile radius rule and that covers Culver. It's only 43 miles away.


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i would assume NO; because satellite camps are for recruiting while this is the team only
 

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It doesn't give any info in the piece. Will that shut down ND's Camp Steinbrenner at Culver?

*The SEC and ACC had been working under a 50 mile radius rule and that covers Culver. It's only 43 miles away.


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i would assume NO; because satellite camps are for recruiting while this is the team only

This. It's apples to oranges. I don't think we invite recruits to those practices at Culver.
 
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The 10 Most Hated College Football Programs In 2016
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Like Miami, there was once a time when Michigan was probably the most hated team in America. With Jim Harbaugh in town, they could be on their way again.

All I can add to this is you can count me as one!

FUCK MICHIGAN!


Oh that feels so good!

That is all.
 

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the satellite camp ban is ridiculous

yep.

Harbaugh didn't even land any top prospects of note from his whole satellite camp tour. Who'd he get? A few middling 3*'s without big offers. Didn't land any 5*'s or 4* top 100 types.

SEC/ACC were against it from the jump simply to protect their recruiting turf. That's it.

This really won't hurt Michigan or Harbaugh imo. He's still a rockstar coach who all the kids know, and Michigan is still a program with the ability to recruit nationally. They used to go into Texas, California, Florida under Lloyd Carr and sign top prospects.

All this is going to do is devastate smaller programs from the MAC, MWC, C-USA who used these kind of camps and who worked the big school camps to try and find prospects that the big schools wouldn't take. They only have 25 scholarships, can't take everybody. Lots of great players like Khalil Mack and Ben Rothlisberger fall through the cracks and end up at smaller schools. This is going to hurt that. Bad.

All the NCAA just did is screw over the kids like that, who might've got a shot at a smaller school and it's just going to make it that much harder for these kids to get discovered and get those kinds of opportunities.
 

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Easiest 2016 schedules
1. Minnesota
2. Michigan
3. Purdue
4. Maryland
5. Nebraska
6. Boston College
7. Baylor
8. Wake Forest
9. Indiana
10. Iowa

I'm just going to leave this right here.

There is 10 wins there by default. I mean Hawaii, UCF, Colorodo (are they still in a P5 conference?) before that brutal B10 schedule (also well represented above).

Go get 'em scum!!...best of luck navigating that BS of a schedule.
 
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Easiest 2016 schedules
1. Minnesota
2. Michigan
3. Purdue
4. Maryland
5. Nebraska
6. Boston College
7. Baylor
8. Wake Forest
9. Indiana
10. Iowa

I'm just going to leave this right here.

There is 10 wins there by default. I mean Hawaii, UCF, Colorodo (are they still in a P5 conference?) before that brutal B10 schedule (also well represented above).

Go get 'em scum!!...best of luck navigating that BS of a schedule.

7 of the 10 are Big Ten teams.
 

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yep.

Harbaugh didn't even land any top prospects of note from his whole satellite camp tour. Who'd he get? A few middling 3*'s without big offers. Didn't land any 5*'s or 4* top 100 types.

SEC/ACC were against it from the jump simply to protect their recruiting turf. That's it.

This really won't hurt Michigan or Harbaugh imo. He's still a rockstar coach who all the kids know, and Michigan is still a program with the ability to recruit nationally. They used to go into Texas, California, Florida under Lloyd Carr and sign top prospects.

All this is going to do is devastate smaller programs from the MAC, MWC, C-USA who used these kind of camps and who worked the big school camps to try and find prospects that the big schools wouldn't take. They only have 25 scholarships, can't take everybody. Lots of great players like Khalil Mack and Ben Rothlisberger fall through the cracks and end up at smaller schools. This is going to hurt that. Bad.

All the NCAA just did is screw over the kids like that, who might've got a shot at a smaller school and it's just going to make it that much harder for these kids to get discovered and get those kinds of opportunities.

Very much agree with your conclusions on the stupid NCAA ban. Sue 'em. Remind them of who comprises their membership and what their mission is.

As for Michigan's signees from the satellite camps in the Class of 2016,

Football Summer Swarm Tour 2015

June 4 – Bishop Chatard Football Camp, Indianapolis (Brandon Peters - already committed, Chris Evans - commit 6/6)

June 5 – Prattville Elite Football Camp, Prattville, Ala. (Kingston Davis - already committed)

June 6 – USF One Day Camp, Tampa (Devin Bush (Pembroke Pines) - already committed, Devin Gil (Pembroke Pines) - commit 6/19, Josh Metellus (PP) - commit 6/17, Eddie McDoom (Winter Garden) - commit 1/27/16 (The South Florida camp was run by Devin Bush's father with all the Michigan coaches in Michigan gear.)

(In case any NJ signees went to the Easton, Pa camp)
June 7 – Lauren's First & Goal Camp, Easton, Pa.
NJ - Kareem Walker (commit 12/17), Ahmir Mitchell - commit 8/27, Brad Hawkins - commit 7/3

Four stars are in bold.

You're saying that this new rule won't hurt Michigan in recruiting? But didn't Michigan say that these camps were not for recruiting but educational?
 
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Very much agree with your conclusions on the stupid NCAA ban. Sue 'em. Remind them of who comprises their membership and what their mission is.

As for Michigan's signees from the satellite camps in the Class of 2016,

Football Summer Swarm Tour 2015

June 4 – Bishop Chatard Football Camp, Indianapolis (Brandon Peters - already committed, Chris Evans - commit 6/6)

June 5 – Prattville Elite Football Camp, Prattville, Ala. (Kingston Davis - already committed)

June 6 – USF One Day Camp, Tampa (Devin Bush (Pembroke Pines) - already committed, Devin Gil (Pembroke Pines) - commit 6/19, Josh Metellus (PP) - commit 6/17, Eddie McDoom (Winter Garden) - commit 1/27/16 (The South Florida camp was run by Devin Bush's father with all the Michigan coaches in Michigan gear.)

(In case any NJ signees went to the Easton, Pa camp)
June 7 – Lauren's First & Goal Camp, Easton, Pa.
NJ - Kareem Walker (commit 12/17), Ahmir Mitchell - commit 8/27, Brad Hawkins - commit 7/3

Four stars are in bold.

You're saying that this new rule won't hurt Michigan in recruiting? But didn't Michigan say that these camps were not for recruiting but educational?

the camps were absolutely for recruiting.

I don't think those camps had any affect on Michigan landing any of those kids to be honest. They would've landed those kids from NJ and IND regardless.

Pretty sure Devin Bush Jr. and his teammates were a packaged deal. I doubt they take the teammates without Bush Jr. and it's pretty obvious they planned on hiring Devin Bush Sr. as soon as they possibly could.

The only kid I'm seeing they really got bc of a camp was Kingston Davis. A 3* rated as a FB by most sites and who many people think will get passed over by Kareem Walker in 2016 and the RB's coming in 2017.
 

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the camps were absolutely for recruiting.

I don't think those camps had any affect on Michigan landing any of those kids to be honest. They would've landed those kids from NJ and IND regardless.

Pretty sure Devin Bush Jr. and his teammates were a packaged deal. I doubt they take the teammates without Bush Jr. and it's pretty obvious they planned on hiring Devin Bush Sr. as soon as they possibly could.

The only kid I'm seeing they really got bc of a camp was Kingston Davis. A 3* rated as a FB by most sites and who many people think will get passed over by Kareem Walker in 2016 and the RB's coming in 2017.

What do you have to say about scheduling the weakest out of conference schedule in the country?
 

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What do you have to say about scheduling the weakest out of conference schedule in the country?

Well if you can't beat Ohio State, become them. Although even Ohio State scheduled a good team this year (Oklahoma).
 

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From 12 game perspective, IU's schedule might be the 9th easiest using whatever metric from above but ND has a better chance of getting to the playoffs playing it's schedule next year than if it had to play IU's.
 
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