It was deflected. If the player who caught the ball just smacked it into the ground Georgia gets another shot.
It was deflected. If the player who caught the ball just smacked it into the ground Georgia gets another shot.
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Well I for one liked the idea of keeping Saban's defense on its toes. If the ball wasn't tipped, it would more than likely have been pass interference on Alabama as the back shoulder throw had that CB all over the WR.
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in Bama you dont have to read and write to graduate you just have to be able to carry a football
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Yes, but getting everyone fresh and prepared for an entire month is completely different than what we just saw today. If you can't give the man respect for being a good coach, regardless of his ethics, you're blinding yourself. The guy will have an outstanding gameplan going into the NCG. I think Kelly is a great coach as well and I don't think we're just going to get smoked, but Saban with a month is as good as they come.
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Epic lol!
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Agree completely.
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Disagree. If you spike the ball quickly with 11 or 12 seconds left you get 3 tries for the endzone. By not spiking the ball and throwing that fade they would have had 2 tries to the endzone.
That's a big difference and if they spiked the ball Richt could have calmed them down and given them key info like "dont throw the ball short of the endzone and dont get tackled short of the endzone.
If Georiga had 3 cracks at the endzone i think they wouldve won as long as Alabama couldn't manage to sack Murray
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How many people does that represent?
Dude, I am so way kidding. I am sorry after my day today and this was the first thing I saw . . .
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As a Tennessee grad, as a guy who's parents graduated from SEC schools and were very successful in their fields, as a guy who's friends went to SEC schools, and as a guy who is going to Georgia law school. I ask that some of you cool it with this ****. It's one thing to hate on the SEC's treatment of athletes and the low standards SEC athletes represent, but it's another to consistently talk **** about colleges that many many ND fans attend. It's getting old, and it sounds douchey.
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The first thing I screamed was "Don't catch it!"
Of course, easy for me to say from the couch. There is NO WAY anyone should blame that kid. In a split second decision, it was his natural instinct to catch the ball and try to make a play. How many PRO players would have spiked the ball down with that amount of pressure on them for that play? I'd say MAYBE five, and I don't even think that many would. Give the kid a break.
And blaming his SEC education is horsesh!t, and you know it. How many ND players have made incredibly boneheaded decisions, with their incredible ND educated minds? Harrison Smith cost us the Pitt game 4 years ago with his incredibly foolish PF penalty when we had all the momentum in the game (which he effectively killed). Troy Niklas slapped an opponent this year, costing us 15 big yards in a game that we ended up winning by 3 points. Everett Golson scrambled out of pressure against Michigan (in what was the most important game of the year at the time), and instead of throwing it away, he threw it into quintuple coverage and was easily picked. Stupid play by a kid who plays classical music and is getting a degree from Notre Dame.
These things happen to players everywhere...
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Nominatioin for post of the year. Hilarious.
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I have no dog in this fight, but I have to agree with greyhammer. This is the kind of stuff that makes others despise ND and gets ND labeled as elitists. Keep the criticisms targeted to the areas greyhammer has identified and nothing more.
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Interesting game. All sorts of odd things about it.
1). Alabama's defense turns out to be far from impenetrable. We are always being accused of being frauds --- I'm wondering if there isn't a little fraudulence there. Georgia was "OK" offensively but I did not think particularly scary. If Everett has a good game, I see no reason why we will not move the ball.
2). Our quarterback, if he doesn't turn it over, is better than theirs, maybe significantly better --- certainly much more talented. Weird to say that going into an NC game. Our receivers also look more athletic than theirs, as a group anyway. They have nothing approaching Eifert, nor did Georgia.
3). Their running backs are brutal, but so are our tacklers --- we're bigger and stronger than Georgia defensively. Still those RBs pose our difficulty. Contain them, no ball turnovers, and we severely limit their scoring. Same verse, just like the first [twelve].
4). Richt was an extreme bonehead on the final offensive play --- nearly inconceivable. Had Kelly ever done anything that bad, half this board [the troglodyte half] would never stop screaming about it. Saban though did something nearly as stupid just before the first half end. He didn't use one of THREE timeouts he had in the last half minute, and blew two shots at a touchdown. Our coach, gentlemen, is the better in-game coach.
5). Georgia's defense was out-of-gas and almost completely quit in the second half --- over 300 total rushing yards, and Alabama still barely won. We are much the more physical defense than Georgia. And better conditioned. And probably deeper.
6). I am not sure that I would say that Alabama is clearly better than either Stanford or Oklahoma. Stanford's as tough, and Oklahoma's as fast or faster. Both are better than Georgia, even though Georgia is a good football team.
7). Alabama is VERY "simple" which is what Saban wants. They are a one-trick pony, albeit a powerfully effective one. Their entire game is brutal muscle. Georgia could not stand up to it. Texas A&M somehow could. The issue is: can Big Lou, Tuitt, and KLM look those guys in the eye and smile and shrug "bring it on"? Can Manti, Prince, Dan/Carlos, and Danny meet the two RBs at the holes and throw them down. Georgia couldn't; we're stronger. We'll see.
Anyone who assumes that this is going to be an obvious SEC win will be speaking purely from biased stupidity and emotionalism. Alabama rushing power vs. Notre Dame front seven power might create supercollider fusions leading to Black Holes in Miami.
1). Alabama's defense turns out to be far from impenetrable. We are always being accused of being frauds --- I'm wondering if there isn't a little fraudulence there. Georgia was "OK" offensively but I did not think particularly scary. If Everett has a good game, I see no reason why we will not move the ball.
2). Our quarterback, if he doesn't turn it over, is better than theirs, maybe significantly better --- certainly much more talented. Weird to say that going into an NC game. Our receivers also look more athletic than theirs, as a group anyway. They have nothing approaching Eifert, nor did Georgia.
3). Their running backs are brutal, but so are our tacklers --- we're bigger and stronger than Georgia defensively. Still those RBs pose our difficulty. Contain them, no ball turnovers, and we severely limit their scoring. Same verse, just like the first [twelve].
4). Richt was an extreme bonehead on the final offensive play --- nearly inconceivable. Had Kelly ever done anything that bad, half this board [the troglodyte half] would never stop screaming about it. Saban though did something nearly as stupid just before the first half end. He didn't use one of THREE timeouts he had in the last half minute, and blew two shots at a touchdown. Our coach, gentlemen, is the better in-game coach.
5). Georgia's defense was out-of-gas and almost completely quit in the second half --- over 300 total rushing yards, and Alabama still barely won. We are much the more physical defense than Georgia. And better conditioned. And probably deeper.
6). I am not sure that I would say that Alabama is clearly better than either Stanford or Oklahoma. Stanford's as tough, and Oklahoma's as fast or faster. Both are better than Georgia, even though Georgia is a good football team.
7). Alabama is VERY "simple" which is what Saban wants. They are a one-trick pony, albeit a powerfully effective one. Their entire game is brutal muscle. Georgia could not stand up to it. Texas A&M somehow could. The issue is: can Big Lou, Tuitt, and KLM look those guys in the eye and smile and shrug "bring it on"? Can Manti, Prince, Dan/Carlos, and Danny meet the two RBs at the holes and throw them down. Georgia couldn't; we're stronger. We'll see.
Anyone who assumes that this is going to be an obvious SEC win will be speaking purely from biased stupidity and emotionalism. Alabama rushing power vs. Notre Dame front seven power might create supercollider fusions leading to Black Holes in Miami.
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Either way both teams played a hard fought game. Congrats to both on good seasons. I admit that I am nervous though and hope we train hard play hard and play smart. It'll take a great game by us to win.
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Good post. I dont fault the kid for catching that. It's a lot different sitting on the couch and thinking that while we can clearly see the clock. That's precisely why you spike the ball there. For all that kid knew, he might have thought that if he didn't catch it the game was over and the clock had run out. How dumb would he have looked if he bats the ball to the ground and it turns out the clock was at 0:00?
And yes these plays can happen to anyone. In fact it nearly happened at ND last week before halftime when Golson lost track of time and was scrambling around and almost ran out the clock. If Toma had caught that ball the clocks runs out and he definitely didnt drop it intentionally.
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you can also argue Georgia should have spiked it at 0:30. It took 9 seconds to snap that ball...way too long.
It then took 6 seconds to snap that ball on the final play. Spiking a ball shoudnt take more than 3 or 4 seconds
It then took 6 seconds to snap that ball on the final play. Spiking a ball shoudnt take more than 3 or 4 seconds
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^This. I know a few posters have pointed out that the pass may have been intended for a recevier in the endzone when it was tipped to the unlucky guy that caught it at the 5, but Murray was taking the snap from the shotgun too, which wasted valuable time. If he would've ran down and got lined up, went under center and spiked it, he could've easily saved almost 5 seconds, maybe more. Also, I tihnk it might have been Richt who said in the post game interview that the last play was a fade to the endzone. How exactly does a fade pass get tipped at the LOS?
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It looked like a back shoulder throw which would explain the tip
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That and some serious wingspan by the DE or OLB or whoever he was that tipped it. Quite a play by him, otherwise, at best for Bama, the ball goes incomplete and Georgia gets one or two more plays.
And, no, not the receiver's fault at all. That's just muscle memory at that point, and then he lost his footing as he landed. They probably should have spiked it before the play, though.
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Richt said Murray was throwing for the endzone. It was tipped and ended up going to the wrong reciever. He said it after the game, so I don't have a way of going back to see if there even was a reciever in the endzone.
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Fade was the call with an intent as thrown, for the back Shoulder. It was tipped due to the back shoulder trajectory vs the fade jump ball look.
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The outside receiver was definitely heading for the back corner of the end zone. That's where the ball was heading, too, until 'Bama's outside lineman got a paw on it. Then it kind of went down like a wounded duck, straight at the slot receiver, who was running an out. He couldn't not catch it. Crappy way to lose. But great play by 'Bama's guy to get a hand on it.
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Tell me how that defender that cheapshotted Murray isn't getting suspended for the NCG. Wasn't a Bama player already suspended this year for a hit like that? You think it'll just be forgotten or are you expecting a suspension?
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That last minute of the game was nerve wracking. I just knew after the last Bama TD we could run the clock out after getting the ball back. But Murray fooled the defense by throwing long when they were expecting short passes to run out of bounds. Our secondary has been weak all season and they almost beat Bama.
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That last minute of the game was nerve wracking. I just knew after the last Bama TD we could run the clock out after getting the ball back. But Murray fooled the defense by throwing long when they were expecting short passes to run out of bounds. Our secondary has been weak all season and they almost beat Bama.
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Honestly, I am not sure. But because no flag was thrown, the SEC Commish may not do anything, and I am not sure if Saban will. It was dirty.
Posted that right before that throw and I still believe that there is NO WAY Bama beats ND if they cannot run on us.
And since NOBODY has except for Pitt, I don't see that happening, At least not to the tune of over 300 yards.
If McCarron can pass on us for 300, then Bama deserves to win.
EDIT: Also I was about to walk out the door to watch Skyfall, but I still don't think that Saban would trust McCarron to win the title for him. I may be wrong, but still if ND wins the LOS battle on D, they win the NCG. Goes the same for both teams, of course but seeing as how ND has played in and won more close games than Bama this year, I tend to think that ND is better suited to win the tight games....but just barely.
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