5-for-5 Injunction

[Bane]

Except for conference realignment killing the geographic regionality of the sport and the creation of a obviously compromised committee to determine playoff at-larges, I like nearly every change to college football in recent years. I much prefer NIL and pay-for-play over the under the table stuff the sport was marred with for decades. I also like 5 for 5 over the redshirt/blackbox waiver system that never seemed to go our way. 10-15 players nationally getting to return to play for a 6th year one more time because the NCAA didn't extend the waiver they should've isn't going to cause me to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Honestly, by going from shady southern bagmen to private equity and Dave Portnoy, we might have somehow downgraded in the overall morality of the sport.

I feel like the board is largely shrugging all of this stuff off because ND is thriving and I can respect and appreciate that. But, I also see the bigger picture and the drift into minor league territory. If I get anxious about ND winning a title, its so they can win one while it's still respected and not the equivalent of the PCL or G-League.

 

[Dale]

Would open the door for a lot more than just the one off year of 2022 guys wanting eligibility back

 

[NotKoon]

What if that meeting at the governors mansion with LSU boosters was about a strategy for legal challenges to the NCAA just as much as it was about NIL

 

[Jeffwantpoppers]

Think for a second how drastically it has changed over the past few years. You've got players working out with NFL teams, not making the cut, and then joining back on on college teams. My interest is diminishing. If they don't make some drastic changes, my Saturdays will be looking a lot more open.

This is why I hate this. A guy spends spring and summer working out with an nfl team. Practicing full time and then gets to go back and play against college players that have restrictions? Come on

 

[Irish Norseman]

Wonder if this means the DE at Indiana has to enter the transfer portal?

 

[Dale]

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Wonder if this means the DE at Indiana has to enter the transfer portal?

Imagine if independent ND just took these guys. The haters' heads would explode.

But really, I'm just thankful every fucking day that admin allows undergrad transfers and reclassifications now lo.

 

[Silentkaw]

Don’t really see how these bans are any different from NCAA rules. Also I think there are like 10 guys who are in a camp but want to come back. This just seems like a PR move rather than an actually big deal.

 

[IrishLax]

Imagine if independent ND just took these guys. The haters' heads would explode.

But really, I'm just thankful every fucking day that admin allows undergrad transfers and reclassifications now lo.

We are a far cry from the days of "does he have enough foreign language credits!?" recruiting

 

[IrishLax]

Looks like Kiffin Kiffin'd to close to the sun


But also, it's funny that ND would be uniquely suited to add whoever they want however they want but we are also one of very few schools that just flat out won't for academic / ethical reasons.

 

[Irish#1]

Looks like Kiffin Kiffin'd to close to the sun


But also, it's funny that ND would be uniquely suited to add whoever they want however they want but we are also one of very few schools that just flat out won't for academic / ethical reasons.

Yesterday, the SEC issued a strongly worded letter saying they were against players returning once they went the pro route. It didn't say players can't return. We'll see if they put some actual teeth into this.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

It doesn't matter what these conferences do or what policy they have, some kid will just sue and a friendly judge will order an injunction.

 

[Blazers46]

Will the SEC follow or do they finally have a path to be relevant again. 🧐

 

[Blazers46]

It doesn't matter what these conferences do or what policy they have, some kid will just sue and a friendly judge will order an injunction.

Then they will go make New Mexico State a powerhouse if they can only play at Sun Belt type schools.

 

[Dale]

Don’t really see how these bans are any different from NCAA rules. Also I think there are like 10 guys who are in a camp but want to come back. This just seems like a PR move rather than an actually big deal.

It doesn't matter what these conferences do or what policy they have, some kid will just sue and a friendly judge will order an injunction.

The Sorsby case has precedent that the leagues have the right to enforce their bylaws, no?

EDIT: it never actually went to court, but:

“Paxton's letter threatened legal action against the Big 12 if it were to sanction Texas Tech. It opened a lane for the Big 12's suit. The league's filing on Monday asked a federal judge to bar Paxton's office from preventing the conference from exercising its right under the bylaws to sanction Tech. The conference sought no damages in the filing and did not challenge a state court ruling that deemed Sorsby eligible, but instead requested a judge to permit it to take action in light of Paxton's legal threats — a lawsuit that many within the legal community expected the Big 12 to win.”

Also don’t bite the hand that feeds you in such right? NCAA ain’t dolling out those tv contracts…..

 

[Dale]

 

[Dale]

So a lot of these injunction guys (JR, IU guys etc) are still gonna be eligible, it’s just guys like Wright who signed an NFL contract, and got waived

 

[arrowryan]

Kiffen is toxic as hell and I’m tired of seeing him in the news every day. He can’t get out of college football soon enough.

 

[Dale]

Looks like Kiffin Kiffin'd to close to the sun


But also, it's funny that ND would be uniquely suited to add whoever they want however they want but we are also one of very few schools that just flat out won't for academic / ethical reasons.

Seems like most of these guys will end up playing with no issue. This was a targeted move at LSU effectively for guys like Wright, Pyburn, Harris

Also sets the stage for basketball season

 

[Huntr]

SEC follows suit and bans NFL, NBA, WNBA, and G-League players

 

[NDRock]

I know. It's almost like many fans, like myself, foresaw this slippery slope. But people kept saying "they deserve a piece of the pie." Now look where we are.

If the “adults in the room” weren’t some of the most corrupt, selfish, incompetent individuals around, it’s very possible a workable system could have been created. At every turn in college football history, the people in power have screwed things up, not the 18-22 year olds.

 

[Blazers46]

Ed O’Bannon’s fault…

 

[TorontoGold]

I know. It's almost like many fans, like myself, foresaw this slippery slope. But people kept saying "they deserve a piece of the pie." Now look where we are.

You had a coach leave his team before the playoffs, you had USC join the same conference as Rutgers, and there's continuous dialogue of the playoffs expanding to like 24 teams but *players* are the ones ruining the sport?

 

[Irish Norseman]

Fuck you lane kiffin!

 

[AKRowdy]

So did Lane not only screw himself but the NFL careers of these players he back doored into returning to college?

 

[notredomer23]

SEC follows suit and bans NFL, NBA, WNBA, and G-League players

Lane pulling these shenanigans probably indirectly is gonna kill LSU’s bball season this year. They were gonna be relying on 2 or 3 NBA guys. Now they have I believe just 5 rostered players. That probably would have gone under the radar if they didn’t attempt the nfl signings.

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

So a lot of these injunction guys (JR, IU guys etc) are still gonna be eligible, it’s just guys like Wright who signed an NFL contract, and got waived

I do not understand the pearl clutching. They are still limited to 5 years and they are not good enough for the pros.

 

[IrishLax]

 

[arrowryan]

This feels like a future lawsuit the NCAA and/or NFL could pursue. I would not want to pick a fight with the NFL.

 

[SarasotaJoe]

We went from “they just need a little extra money for a pizza and movie” and “why shouldn’t they profit off of their jersey sales” to $50,000,000 rosters and this.

just blow it up already