'25 NV WR Derek Meadows (Alabama Verbal)

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Yup. ND football is an enjoyable hobby. When you let it absorb your life to the point where the decisions of high school kids negatively impacts your attitudes/moods then it's a problem.

Used to be me. I was an asshole to everyone in my life for a whole month because of 2011 scUM.

Having my first kid changed that for me. His first game at one month old was 2016 Texas. What a frustrating, heartbreaking game. But after it was over… I was mad, but really didn’t care that much the next morning.

Same. My twins were born the day before 2016 V-tech game. I was rocking one of them when the game ended and really didn't seem to care anymore. They day that the school pays for my children's education is the day that I will get invested.

Bama broke me. Realized I had to love ND but not let it control my emotions to such an extent. I get bummed when we lose and it sucks for a little while, but then I realize I don't want to be a miserable curmudgeon, and I have a drink and get over myself. ha

Yep. I’ve put this story out here a couple of times. My daughter’s first ND game was the Marshall game. My dad, who has since passed, and I, took her and it was a day I’ll never forget. We left at the end and while obviously the scoreboard was disappointing, she looked at me and told me it was her best day ever. Tough to be too disappointed after that.

ND sports is a great pastime and great hobby…but it isn’t life. It’s fun to follow and be on this board, but nothing worth ruining a day over.
Bunch of softies...
 

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I think if we all take the time to get on a ND message board called Irish Envy we care enough for any recruiting loss to matter at least a little and a game loss matters much more. It’s July and we are here, even if the convo turns to tacos that is how we cope. We You are a bunch fat miserable Notre Dame football fans.
 

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I think if we all take the time to get on a ND message board called Irish Envy we care enough for any recruiting loss to matter at least a little and a game loss matters much more. It’s July and we are here, even if the convo turns to tacos that is how we cope. We You are a bunch fat miserable Notre Dame football fans.
I just dont have any other friends
 

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Nope - it's someone that understands that all your bitching and moaning only has an effect on one person - yourself. It's one thing to state that you are disappointed with the current crop of WR recruits and would like to see that improve, but it's another thing altogether to drone on and on and on and on and on and... Believe it or not, but the good people of Irish Envy have no control over the football program at Notre Dame no matter how often the same complaint is beaten to death.
It's a discussion on a message board. You thinking someone is "bitching and moaning" because we're typing our struggles with WR recruiting is hilarious.

What should we be discussing on here, or any of the 2025 WR commits/misses/targets pages?
 

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Used to be me. I was an asshole to everyone in my life for a whole month because of 2011 scUM.

Having my first kid changed that for me. His first game at one month old was 2016 Texas. What a frustrating, heartbreaking game. But after it was over… I was mad, but really didn’t care that much the next morning.
I differ. I go to a lot of games. Games are WAYYYYYY more fun to attend when there's a lot at stake. Now, I don't dwell on losses and have them impact my life, but it stinks to know you're going to say, 2023 clemson, and the game hardly means anything because both pre season top 10 teams are already out of the playoff race. Still had a great time, but it's not the same. ND also showed up like it wasn't the same either.
 

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Used to be me. I was an asshole to everyone in my life for a whole month because of 2011 scUM.

Having my first kid changed that for me. His first game at one month old was 2016 Texas. What a frustrating, heartbreaking game. But after it was over… I was mad, but really didn’t care that much the next morning.
You had your son just in time. 2016 was my freshman year.
 

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There is a difference in "typing our struggles with WR recruiting" and what you do...
Tough to have trust with the staff and their approach after two disappointing seasons in a row.

With that said, on paper, this is team has a real chance to be special.

Do you think I should be prepared for disappointment again, or should I have high hopes at the risk of you all having to then hear about it if we don't accomplish what we should?
 

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Tough to have trust with the staff and their approach after two disappointing seasons in a row.

With that said, on paper, this is team has a real chance to be special.

Do you think I should be prepared for disappointment again, or should I have high hopes at the risk of you all having to then hear about it if we don't accomplish what we should?
I'm not going to tell you what to think. But I for one am looking forward to the labor day weekend. I am going to be watching a game with my dad for the first time since 2019. I certainly want to see a win, but sometimes there are more important things and no matter what, I will wake up smiling on Sunday as we make our way to our tee time. Cheers.
 

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I'm not going to tell you what to think. But I for one am looking forward to the labor day weekend. I am going to be watching a game with my dad for the first time since 2019. I certainly want to see a win, but sometimes there are more important things and no matter what, I will wake up smiling on Sunday as we make our way to our tee time. Cheers.
Same, message board is more fun to vent to than family and friends.

Playing a good course I hope!?
 

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Things will shake out when the season starts. Our OC had a QB and receiver picked top 6 in the draft. If he produces the offense he’s capable of there will be renewed interest and flip potential.
 

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I'm not going to tell you what to think. But I for one am looking forward to the labor day weekend. I am going to be watching a game with my dad for the first time since 2019. I certainly want to see a win, but sometimes there are more important things and no matter what, I will wake up smiling on Sunday as we make our way to our tee time. Cheers.
Make sure it's a late morning tee time, prepare to be celebrating hard for going America all over those bitches.
 

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Again I'm always late to the party so I apologize if already posted.

But to answer the question.... Very little.

At best his commitment is a "soft" verbal no matter who it's too.

IDK why but I expect either USC or Oregon to come in late in the game and become serious players here.
 

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Again I'm always late to the party so I apologize if already posted.

But to answer the question.... Very little.

At best his commitment is a "soft" verbal no matter who it's too.

IDK why but I expect either USC or Oregon to come in late in the game and become serious players here.
Our position with WRs should only improve. If we don't have our first good passing offense under freeman as HC this year, we have bigger issues than WR recruiting.

It's much harder to flip recruits than land them initially, but as others have said, we should have a much improved passing offense and recruits should take notice quickly. Lets use it to quiet the 12th man.
 

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It's a discussion on a message board. You thinking someone is "bitching and moaning" because we're typing our struggles with WR recruiting is hilarious.

What should we be discussing on here, or any of the 2025 WR commits/misses/targets pages?
It's just a basic/lame shaming/quieting tactic deployed by the person(s) to try to get you to stop talking about something that--

1) Is true

2) The person doesn't like hearing about because it causes them to feel a bad/negative internal emotion

3) The person can't refute nor deny either outwardly to the other nor internally to themselves

Its pretty common feminine trait so you can't really get mad at the girls on here doing it (no shade/disrespect ladies)

Don't take it personally

Speaks more to the person deploying the tactic than you including the extent that they should have some type of expectation/entitlement that people should only do what they want and in the manner they want

They likely have latent control issues that even extent outside the realm of an internet message board context

Because everyone feels/acts exactly about real life as they do on some random football message board

If someone makes a "get perspective" post on a football message board you can only assume--

They're overly controlling of their loved ones, particularly romantic partners

Have difficulty with hearing opposing views, particularly in their home environment

Have an unrealistic and unhealthy sense of entitlement

It's really that deep
 

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It's just a basic/lame shaming/quieting tactic deployed by the person(s) to try to get you to stop talking about something that--

1) Is true

2) The person doesn't like hearing about because it causes them to feel a bad/negative internal emotion

3) The person can't refute nor deny either outwardly to the other nor internally to themselves

Its pretty common feminine trait so you can't really get mad at the girls on here doing it (no shade/disrespect ladies)

Don't take it personally

Speaks more to the person deploying the tactic than you including the extent that they should have some type of expectation/entitlement that people should only do what they want and in the manner they want

They likely have latent control issues that even extent outside the realm of an internet message board context

Because everyone feels/acts exactly about real life as they do on some random football message board

If someone makes a "get perspective" post on a football message board you can only assume--

They're overly controlling of their loved ones, particularly romantic partners

Have difficulty with hearing opposing views, particularly in their home environment

Have an unrealistic and unhealthy sense of entitlement

It's really that deep
Thanks for the laugh
 

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It's just a basic/lame shaming/quieting tactic deployed by the person(s) to try to get you to stop talking about something that--

1) Is true

2) The person doesn't like hearing about because it causes them to feel a bad/negative internal emotion

3) The person can't refute nor deny either outwardly to the other nor internally to themselves

Its pretty common feminine trait so you can't really get mad at the girls on here doing it (no shade/disrespect ladies)

Don't take it personally

Speaks more to the person deploying the tactic than you including the extent that they should have some type of expectation/entitlement that people should only do what they want and in the manner they want

They likely have latent control issues that even extent outside the realm of an internet message board context

Because everyone feels/acts exactly about real life as they do on some random football message board

If someone makes a "get perspective" post on a football message board you can only assume--

They're overly controlling of their loved ones, particularly romantic partners

Have difficulty with hearing opposing views, particularly in their home environment

Have an unrealistic and unhealthy sense of entitlement

It's really that deep
What!!! My take is the opposite. How is not getting emotionally tied to what a 17 year old kid does feminine in any way? At the end of the day there are things much more important. Letting someone else's life decisions not impact you isn't feminine my friend. Do you know what is a little feminine though, going all psychiatrist on a bunch of people you don't know.
 
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I can't for the life of me understand why the ultra negative posters feel the need to post at such a high rate. 5 or so posters fill up 70% of the threads with the same rambling garbage. It's like going to party with people I like to spend time with then the one jackwagon I can't stand corners me for 2 hours.
 

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It's just a basic/lame shaming/quieting tactic deployed by the person(s) to try to get you to stop talking about something that--

1) Is true

2) The person doesn't like hearing about because it causes them to feel a bad/negative internal emotion

3) The person can't refute nor deny either outwardly to the other nor internally to themselves

Its pretty common feminine trait so you can't really get mad at the girls on here doing it (no shade/disrespect ladies)

Don't take it personally

Speaks more to the person deploying the tactic than you including the extent that they should have some type of expectation/entitlement that people should only do what they want and in the manner they want

They likely have latent control issues that even extent outside the realm of an internet message board context

Because everyone feels/acts exactly about real life as they do on some random football message board

If someone makes a "get perspective" post on a football message board you can only assume--

They're overly controlling of their loved ones, particularly romantic partners

Have difficulty with hearing opposing views, particularly in their home environment

Have an unrealistic and unhealthy sense of entitlement

It's really that deep
Said the man who secretly wishes he was a woman so he could get f*cked as hard as our recent recruiting efforts.
 

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I can't for the life of me understand why the ultra negative posters feel the need to post at such a high rate. 5 or so posters fill up 70% of the threads with the same rambling garbage. It's like going to party with people I like to spend time with then the one jackwagon I can't stand corners me for 2 hours.
The problem is you went to a Metallica concert when you should have went to a Taylor swift concert
 

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I can't for the life of me understand why the ultra negative posters feel the need to post at such a high rate. 5 or so posters fill up 70% of the threads with the same rambling garbage. It's like going to party with people I like to spend time with then the one jackwagon I can't stand corners me for 2 hours.
His name is granger and he has no friends. Not surprised he cornered you.
 

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Bunch of softies...

It's just a basic/lame shaming/quieting tactic deployed by the person(s) to try to get you to stop talking about something that--

1) Is true

2) The person doesn't like hearing about because it causes them to feel a bad/negative internal emotion

3) The person can't refute nor deny either outwardly to the other nor internally to themselves

Its pretty common feminine trait so you can't really get mad at the girls on here doing it (no shade/disrespect ladies)

Don't take it personally

Speaks more to the person deploying the tactic than you including the extent that they should have some type of expectation/entitlement that people should only do what they want and in the manner they want

They likely have latent control issues that even extent outside the realm of an internet message board context

Because everyone feels/acts exactly about real life as they do on some random football message board

If someone makes a "get perspective" post on a football message board you can only assume--

They're overly controlling of their loved ones, particularly romantic partners

Have difficulty with hearing opposing views, particularly in their home environment

Have an unrealistic and unhealthy sense of entitlement

It's really that deep
Yep, just like I said. Bunch of softies...

Seriously though. I don't know whether to laugh at this post or be seriously concerned for you.
 

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I think if we all take the time to get on a ND message board called Irish Envy we care enough for any recruiting loss to matter at least a little and a game loss matters much more. It’s July and we are here, even if the convo turns to tacos that is how we cope. We You are a bunch fat miserable Notre Dame football fans.
This is me spot on. But I have repeated this ad nauseum. The one thing that is worse than the broken bitching drum about recruiting or some other woes, Is the bitching about the person bitching about the problem.
 

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I can't for the life of me understand why the ultra negative posters feel the need to post at such a high rate. 5 or so posters fill up 70% of the threads with the same rambling garbage. It's like going to party with people I like to spend time with then the one jackwagon I can't stand corners me for 2 hours.
This was Koon's problem. It eventually led to his downfall. There is another poster on here that I would call Koon Lite.

When you feel the need to keep making the same exact point in a thread (or multiple threads) over and over and over and over. You have a problem. Yes we heard you the first time. You needed to say the same exact thing a second time for more emphasis .... fine. You feel the need to post the same crap 15 times in a days time...... you have a problem. You will eventually be File 13'd just like Koon.
 
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