'24 IL DL Justin Scott (Miami [FL] Verbal)

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Certainly an opinion to have.
Then refute it with your fan glasses off.
I wonder what comes with that theoretical $1 million. For a kid with his potential, that’s not much take home cash after taxes and everything and I wonder if the money men expect some accommodations down the road, should he hit.
It’s more take home cash than he’d have if he had picked ND. It’s a nice insurance policy in case something out of his control happens and ends his football career, or if he just never materializes into the sure fire NFL talent he’s projected as.
 

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Then refute it with your fan glasses off.
Georgia is the best program in the country so how can alabama be when they keep getting beaten by them?
Bama is the fastest declining former best program in the country ever.
 

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Then refute it with your fan glasses off.

It’s more take home cash than he’d have if he had picked ND. It’s a nice insurance policy in case something out of his control happens and ends his football career, or if he just never materializes into the sure fire NFL talent he’s projected as.
Kyle Hamilton, in the first year of NIL, while injured, (he missed over half of the season), made over a million take home.
He outlined it on the podcast he did.
He did it all legally, above the table, paid taxes on it, & still brought home over a million in 4 months, despite being injured for 2 of them.
Keeley’s mom always knew his monetary value & it was discussed by the mom’s of the recruits and her, who all famously hung out and took pictures & put them all over social media. Many of the moms had convinced her Keon would be better off at ND in the long run. But then after other recruits in other programs started throwing out fake, bloated numbers, she and the uncle started looking for those numbers.
And the NIL money is not guaranteed Keeley will get from Bama. The Texas A&M players who got all the NIL deals exposed how it works when they all left. Most the money is in incentives & over long period of time & can be taken away at any time. So most of those players got like 20-30k in total. Being told a million is before taxes, over 4 years, and if you meet all the incentives (which no one will).
Kyle Hamilton signed actual contracts with corporations, and people like Colin Cowherd, so it was legally binding. So all his money was guaranteed. So he actually made more than originally offered because he was re-signed.
I had this exact same conversation on this very board two years ago when A&M signed the 8 DL. I said it’s not real & the majority will leave. And of course that’s what happened.

And the amount of money he would receive is not a “nice little insurance policy if he can’t play football.” It’s nothing. It’s peanuts. So if he doesn’t make the NFL, you think he can live off of 100k the rest of his life at 20? LOL
Now, if he graduates from ND at 21 and couldn’t play football again, he is set, and any NIL money would just be a bonus.

I am teammates with guys who signed a second contract in the NFL, (which is huge because after the rookie contract it’s where they make the real money), & they played 8-9 seasons in the NFL, retired at 29, no degree, and were broke by 35. (Thus the reason they got into professional combat sports).

Alabama players who didn’t pan out & are broke by 30 are a dime a dozen.
How many ND graduates do you know who are broke by 30? Let alone very well off?

There is a retort.
 

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Georgia is the best program in the country so how can alabama be when they keep getting beaten by them?
Bama is the fastest declining former best program in the country ever.
If you were born after December 4th 2021 then yes, you are correct. However, I'm going to assume you were born prior to that. If so, the last time Georgia beat Bama was in 2007.

If you were to expand your scope of "best program", can I interest you in a post Pete Carrol USC? You may find that decline a bit faster than Alabama's huge fall to finishing 5th last year.

Saban has 6 titles in the time it took Georgia to beat them.
 

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Kyle Hamilton, in the first year of NIL, while injured, (he missed over half of the season), made over a million take home.
He outlined it on the podcast he did.
He did it all legally, above the table, paid taxes on it, & still brought home over a million in 4 months, despite being injured for 2 of them.
Keeley’s mom always knew his monetary value & it was discussed by the mom’s of the recruits and her, who all famously hung out and took pictures & put them all over social media. Many of the moms had convinced her Keon would be better off at ND in the long run. But then after other recruits in other programs started throwing out fake, bloated numbers, she and the uncle started looking for those numbers.
And the NIL money is not guaranteed Keeley will get from Bama. The Texas A&M players who got all the NIL deals exposed how it works when they all left. Most the money is in incentives & over long period of time & can be taken away at any time. So most of those players got like 20-30k in total. Being told a million is before taxes, over 4 years, and if you meet all the incentives (which no one will).
Kyle Hamilton signed actual contracts with corporations, and people like Colin Cowherd, so it was legally binding. So all his money was guaranteed. So he actually made more than originally offered because he was re-signed.
I had this exact same conversation on this very board two years ago when A&M signed the 8 DL. I said it’s not real & the majority will leave. And of course that’s what happened.

And the amount of money he would receive is not a “nice little insurance policy if he can’t play football.” It’s nothing. It’s peanuts. So if he doesn’t make the NFL, you think he can live off of 100k the rest of his life at 20? LOL
Now, if he graduates from ND at 21 and couldn’t play football again, he is set, and any NIL money would just be a bonus.

I am teammates with guys who signed a second contract in the NFL, (which is huge because after the rookie contract it’s where they make the real money), & they played 8-9 seasons in the NFL, retired at 29, no degree, and were broke by 35. (Thus the reason they got into professional combat sports).

Alabama players who didn’t pan out & are broke by 30 are a dime a dozen.
How many ND graduates do you know who are broke by 30? Let alone very well off?

There is a retort.
Including Richard Young was in Keon’s ear
 

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Alabama players who didn’t pan out & are broke by 30 are a dime a dozen.
How many ND graduates do you know who are broke by 30? Let alone very well off?

There is a retort.
Something that SEC schools bank on are the limitless resource of kids who think they’re different and parents who think their kid’s the one. Its not a unique thing to this generation - you just can’t tell some folks anything.

When those Alabama players are broke at 30, there’s another crop of big-time 17-year-olds who know they won’t be broke at 30.
 

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Something that SEC schools bank on are the limitless resource of kids who think they’re different and parents who think their kid’s the one. Its not a unique thing to this generation - you just can’t tell some folks anything.

When those Alabama players are broke at 30, there’s another crop of big-time 17-year-olds who know they won’t be broke at 30.
It’s like telling a 17 year old not to smoke, drink & do drugs.
But they don’t see the big picture, just in the moment. And they all say 20 years later they made a mistake. But the 17 year olds they tell it to ignore them.
Making 200k a year for 40 years is so much better than a one time payout less than a million.
 

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It’s probably impossible to get good data but I would be very interested to see a survey of what scholarship football players earn after they stop playing football, by school (or conference).
 

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Kyle Hamilton, in the first year of NIL, while injured, (he missed over half of the season), made over a million take home.
He outlined it on the podcast he did.
He did it all legally, above the table, paid taxes on it, & still brought home over a million in 4 months, despite being injured for 2 of them.
Keeley’s mom always knew his monetary value & it was discussed by the mom’s of the recruits and her, who all famously hung out and took pictures & put them all over social media. Many of the moms had convinced her Keon would be better off at ND in the long run. But then after other recruits in other programs started throwing out fake, bloated numbers, she and the uncle started looking for those numbers.
And the NIL money is not guaranteed Keeley will get from Bama. The Texas A&M players who got all the NIL deals exposed how it works when they all left. Most the money is in incentives & over long period of time & can be taken away at any time. So most of those players got like 20-30k in total. Being told a million is before taxes, over 4 years, and if you meet all the incentives (which no one will).
Kyle Hamilton signed actual contracts with corporations, and people like Colin Cowherd, so it was legally binding. So all his money was guaranteed. So he actually made more than originally offered because he was re-signed.
I had this exact same conversation on this very board two years ago when A&M signed the 8 DL. I said it’s not real & the majority will leave. And of course that’s what happened.

And the amount of money he would receive is not a “nice little insurance policy if he can’t play football.” It’s nothing. It’s peanuts. So if he doesn’t make the NFL, you think he can live off of 100k the rest of his life at 20? LOL
Now, if he graduates from ND at 21 and couldn’t play football again, he is set, and any NIL money would just be a bonus.

I am teammates with guys who signed a second contract in the NFL, (which is huge because after the rookie contract it’s where they make the real money), & they played 8-9 seasons in the NFL, retired at 29, no degree, and were broke by 35. (Thus the reason they got into professional combat sports).

Alabama players who didn’t pan out & are broke by 30 are a dime a dozen.
How many ND graduates do you know who are broke by 30? Let alone very well off?

There is a retort.
Hamilton was already an All-American presumed first round pick at that point. There's nothing precluding Keon from making more money on top of whatever he signed for if he has as successful a career as Kyle did at ND. Kyle as a freshman if he was in the 2023 ND class wouldn't match what Keon got.
 

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It’s like telling a 17 year old not to smoke, drink & do drugs.
But they don’t see the big picture, just in the moment. And they all say 20 years later they made a mistake. But the 17 year olds they tell it to ignore them.
Making 200k a year for 40 years is so much better than a one time payout less than a million.
This is all correct, just adding that Keon especially stings because it felt like he did see the big picture - it was largely his family/uncles that steered him away.
 

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If I'm reading this correctly, the dead period starts on June 27th. Considering that Scott has OV's lined up with UGA (6/2), Michigan (6/9), Miami (6/16), and OSU (6/23) but not ND, that should say it all about ND's chances of landing him, right?
 

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If I'm reading this correctly, the dead period starts on June 27th. Considering that Scott has OV's lined up with UGA (6/2), Michigan (6/9), Miami (6/16), and OSU (6/23) but not ND, that should say it all about ND's chances of landing him, right?
Word is his ND visit is an unofficial and he'd use an official for a trip back for a game in the fall. But we'll see if that happens.
 

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Word is his ND visit is an unofficial and he'd use an official for a trip back for a game in the fall. But we'll see if that happens.
He was supposed to commit a while ago, then said this summer, now the fall.
And every insider said the longer it goes the worst it is for ND.

Also, if he is going to Miami for an OV in June, that means his visit last month there was an unofficial? He can’t afford to miss work and come to ND, but hr can travel to Miami on an unofficial?
 

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Yeah this is over. Meh. He’ll be a nice player but this is no Keon or Bowen situation. You guys should move on.
 

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He is walking down a different aisle.

Time to focus on a good three star LB or Safety that we can bulk up to work the DL..... I am sure that will work.


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Let me help you guys out on this one : he’s not coming to Notre dame
Yeah, it's really hard for me to be optimistic about this one. I'm trying to keep an open mind but I don't see it. Way too many cooks in the kitchen because he's a known commodity. The big guys will pull out all of the stops falling over each other to get him. ND has made their pitch and there is certainly not a lack of effort, but you feel like the writing is on the wall.

Close to home for Chicago might be Coral Gables. Justin will have his reasons.
 

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so is this a case of our irish and scUM not offering big bags of money to uncles and other family members up front or him just wanting to live down south more.
 

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New car, caviar, four star, daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team
 
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