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I don't think I can dislike OSU more than Michigan. OSU has pushed ND around on the recruiting trail (with recruits like KVA). While it appears that KVA is trending towards OSU Laurinaitis gets a big assist here if they land him. What can ND do about it? Beat them on the field this year.

As far as the academic side of it no surprise that OSU makes it easier for kids, when Fields transferred to OSU I heard he never had to leave to go to classes. There are kids out there that appreciate what ND has to offer with academics (hopefully KVA is one of them).

Just out of curiosity who is this board going to root for when Michigan plays USC?

Hope ND gets a surprise this Sunday!
 
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irishandy said:
I don't think I can dislike OSU more than Michigan. OSU has pushed ND around on the recruiting trail (with recruits like KVA). While it appears that KVA is trending towards OSU Laurinaitis gets a big assist here if they land him. What can ND do about it? Beat them on the field this year.

As far as the academic side of it no surprise that OSU makes it easier for kids, when Fields transferred to OSU I heard he never had to leave to go to classes. There are kids out there that appreciate what ND has to offer with academics (hopefully KVA is one of them).

Just out of curiosity who is this board going to root for when Michigan plays USC?

Hope ND gets a surprise this Sunday!
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I say this as a completely biased ND fan, but I really don't see the appeal with OSU from the eyes of national recruits. If you want to go to a football factory and have a shot at a championship, go play for Bama or Georgia. The weather is better, the coaching is better, etc. I genuinely don't know what OSU sells that can compete with the likes of those SEC juggernauts. I would much rather go to Bama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, or even Florida before going to OSU as a national recruit.

It's clear what ND sells, as it's different than all the rest. While simultaneously striving to achieve playing at a championship level, you also get academics and prestige, etc. What does OSU offer as a football factory that Bama/Georgia doesn't? Relationships? Strange, because average life of a position coach on staff is what, 2 years?
 
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BleedBlueGold said:
I say this as a completely biased ND fan, but I really don't see the appeal with OSU from the eyes of national recruits. If you want to go to a football factory and have a shot at a championship, go play for Bama or Georgia. The weather is better, the coaching is better, etc. I genuinely don't know what OSU sells that can compete with the likes of those SEC juggernauts. I would much rather go to Bama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, or even Florida before going to OSU as a national recruit.

It's clear what ND sells, as it's different than all the rest. While simultaneously striving to achieve playing at a championship level, you also get academics and prestige, etc. What does OSU offer as a football factory that Bama/Georgia doesn't? Relationships? Strange, because average life of a position coach on staff is what, 2 years?
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As a Yankee who now lives in the Nashville area, I wouldn't be a cultural fit at a school like Alabama or Georgia. I only fit in Nashville because it's become a southern city in location only.

I'd imagine there's a lot of kids like that who just wouldn't feel comfortable at an SEC powerhouse for off-field reasons.
 
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BleedBlueGold said:
I say this as a completely biased ND fan, but I really don't see the appeal with OSU from the eyes of national recruits. If you want to go to a football factory and have a shot at a championship, go play for Bama or Georgia. The weather is better, the coaching is better, etc. I genuinely don't know what OSU sells that can compete with the likes of those SEC juggernauts. I would much rather go to Bama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, or even Florida before going to OSU as a national recruit.

It's clear what ND sells, as it's different than all the rest. While simultaneously striving to achieve playing at a championship level, you also get academics and prestige, etc. What does OSU offer as a football factory that Bama/Georgia doesn't? Relationships? Strange, because average life of a position coach on staff is what, 2 years?
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Being in a larger city I’m sure is appealing to a lot of kids. There’s a lot to do in Columbus, coming from someone who worked/lived in Columbus for the last year. Not sure how much there is to do in college towns like Athens and tuscaloosa
 
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Columbus is a generic ass bland midwestern city. There's nothing appealing about it. Recruits aren't going to OSU because they think Columbus is a cool city.
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dublinirish said:
Columbus is a generic ass bland midwestern city. There's nothing appealing about it. Recruits aren't going to OSU because they think Columbus is a cool city.
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Yep. Columbus may be bigger than Athens or Gainesville but it's no Miami or LA. It's not even Austin. Recruits go to Ohio State because they're A: From Ohio. Or B: Want to get to the NFL. That's it. Not complicated.
 
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dublinirish said:
Columbus is a generic ass bland midwestern city. There's nothing appealing about it. Recruits aren't going to OSU because they think Columbus is a cool city.
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So is the tO$U campus! Outside of their library, none of their buildings are anything special and the whole campus is actually rather mundane!
 
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If education is truly important it’s gotta be ND. You’re playing high level football at either place. If you’re not really that interested in academic challenge then it’s not ND.

I’d be willing to bet more often than not, the academic rigors decide a lot of our recruiting battles.
 
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ColinKSU said:
As a Yankee who now lives in the Nashville area, I wouldn't be a cultural fit at a school like Alabama or Georgia. I only fit in Nashville because it's become a southern city in location only.

I'd imagine there's a lot of kids like that who just wouldn't feel comfortable at an SEC powerhouse for off-field reasons.
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This makes sense to me. But how is the cultural fit of a LA kid moving to the Midwest much different? Just to play devil's advocate.

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Being in a larger city I’m sure is appealing to a lot of kids. There’s a lot to do in Columbus, coming from someone who worked/lived in Columbus for the last year. Not sure how much there is to do in college towns like Athens and tuscaloosa
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KVA is from LA. Every city is going to feel like a small college town to him.
 
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dublinirish said:
Columbus is a generic ass bland midwestern city. There's nothing appealing about it. Recruits aren't going to OSU because they think Columbus is a cool city.
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Yea Columbus and the local fan support really outstrips us w South Bend. Unfortunately Ann Arbor and Madison are great College towns.
 
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Again, we don’t start truly winning these battles until we start winning the matchups. Getting the best coaching means being able to state definitively we flat out beat this opponent.

Also, how did we end up losing Laurinitis (sp)? Seems like it would have been smart to do anything we could to keep him on staff considering his name has come up multiple times since he left.
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He was a GA at Notre Dame.
He went back to his alma mater as a GA with the promise to get a staff position.

And KVA was actually recruited at OSU by Al Washington, and Laurenitus hasn’t had an impact on him.
 
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As opposed to South Bend, Indiana?
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Have you read the thread?
People are talking up Columbus as if it’s some big determining factor in kids choosing OSU over ND.
Let me tell you straight up, ND’s campus is a MUCH larger factor in kids choosing ND over OSU’s campus, regardless of SB or Columbus.
ND has won countless recruitments because kids visit the campus the first time & fell in love. It happened multiple times just in the last class. Micah Gilbert said it himself.
I’ve never heard a kid pick OSU because of the campus or Columbus.
 
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As is the case with many things, it depends on who you are.

As a major city, Columbus has a hell of a lot more going on than South Bend, Indiana. It’s the state capital and is a top-20 US city in population size.

Notre Dame’s campus has an aura that is unmatched. When compared to OSU’s “campus”, it’s not even close.

For as many kids picking ND because the campus is special and they get it, there are probably as many kids picking OSU because they can live off campus and party in a football college town almost immediately. Not primarily because of this, but it is a factor.
 
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WilliamWallace said:
If education is truly important it’s gotta be ND. You’re playing high level football at either place. If you’re not really that interested in academic challenge then it’s not ND.

I’d be willing to bet more often than not, the academic rigors decide a lot of our recruiting battles.
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One of my least favorite things we’ve done in recent years is marketing this aspect to recruits with the “Choose Hard” saying/approach.

I get what we’re going for, and it’s what kids need to hear, but man do I feel it does more harm than good.
 
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As is the case with many things, it depends on who you are.

As a major city, Columbus has a hell of a lot more going on than South Bend, Indiana. It’s the state capital and is a top-20 US city in population size.

Notre Dame’s campus has an aura that is unmatched. When compared to OSU’s “campus”, it’s not even close.

For as many kids picking ND because the campus is special and they get it, there are probably as many kids picking OSU because they can live off campus and party in a football college town almost immediately. Not primarily because of this, but it is a factor.
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Party in Columbus?? At Applebees or Olive Garden?


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NumbersGuy0520 said:
One of my least favorite things we’ve done in recent years is marketing this aspect to recruits with the “Choose Hard” saying/approach.

I get what we’re going for, and it’s what kids need to hear, but man do I feel it does more harm than good.
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Kids are going to have to realize that if they are going to make it in a league as cutthroat and unforgiving as the NFL, choosing hard in college is going to benefit them. There's a reason why NFL teams love ND OL, because they are both developed high-quality NFL prospects and mature beyond most of their peers to the point where they aren't concerned about things like work ethic and off-field behavior.

This happens because at ND, you are held accountable for your off-field behavior and work ethic everywhere, including the classroom.
 
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