'23 NV CB Justyn Rhett (Georgia Verbal)

[SeekNDestroy]

Can one of the Republicans translate?

 

[IrishLax]

 

[dublinirish]

when are recruits gonna start live streaming their in-home visits with coaches? its the next logical step right?

 

[NDIrish88]

when are recruits gonna start live streaming their in-home visits with coaches? its the next logical step right?

That's a good idea.

 

[irishog77]

when are recruits gonna start live streaming their in-home visits with coaches? its the next logical step right?

Can't wait to see the videos of Hairball walking around a kid's house shirtless and Burnt Ends traveling with his own bottle of Tabasco sauce while giving recruit's parents tips on how to cook étouffée and hunt alligators.

 

[ND87]

You’re right. I knew after I posted it that I should have said he didn’t drink ON HIS SHOW.

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www.latimes.com

 

[Irishnuke]

Apparently Georgia is making a push to flip him and he’s going to take a visit there soon, per Gorney.

Recruiting Rumor Mill: Chatter from RCS Los Angeles

Notre Dame has been a school pegged to 2024 standout quarterback Julian Sayin.

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[tko]

Shocking. I wonder how many times our top guys will turn over between now and December.

 

[IrishLax]

The guy who started a media thing to document his recruitment after "committing" is going to be dramatic and is likely to flip? Wow, surprise of the century.

 

[Dale]

likely to flip

According to who is he likely to flip?

 

[IrishLax]

According to who is he likely to flip?

Me.

 

[irishff1014]

If you thought recruiting was a roller coaster ride before just wait. They are swinging for some big time fences that they are clearly going to fall short of. I love Freeman's mentality but don't get your hopes up.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Comes with the territory. I'd rather be playing with the big boys and have UGA trying to flip a recruit than some team like Pitt or NW because we aren't reeling in the elite.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Honestly IDC as long as we get Dante Moore and Keon Keeley. I mean I do care, but Moore and Keely will change the perception of ND going forward.

 

[Dale]

At least Rhett will get a ratings bump on On3 when he enters the Southeast. He’s always been conveyed as the one talking about visits but least concern, FWIW (vs. Keeley, Bowen)

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

If you thought recruiting was a roller coaster ride before just wait. They are swinging for some big time fences that they are clearly going to fall short of. I love Freeman's mentality but don't get your hopes up.

I hope you don't treat your job like your fandom.

"You thought that last fire was bad, this one is probably going to implode shortly after we arrive. Don't get your hopes up"

 

[IrishLax]

If you thought recruiting was a roller coaster ride before just wait. They are swinging for some big time fences that they are clearly going to fall short of. I love Freeman's mentality but don't get your hopes up.

Exactly. What people don’t realize — and is 100% a stone cold fact, not opinion — is that BK basically got “intentionally” lazy after the debacle of the 2012 class. I don’t know how many people remember #BangBangNotreDameGang and all of that drama. But I have it on good authority from an assistant coach who was there at that time that BK basically decided that any kid that they had to hard sell or pressure recruit was going to fail at ND.

So after the flirtation with the Eagles in ‘13, he let Notre Dame “recruit itself” and looked for fit above all else. I’m not saying this was a good approach, but it certainly led to recruiting class and roster stability.

Marcus Freeman, by contrast, is trying to do what it takes to win a championship NOT what it takes to win ~10 games a year and keep your job. That means there are going to be a lot more dramatic recruiting battles for coveted national prospects. It’s also happening in the era of NIL, where there will be more late cycle flips than ever. People need to buckle up.

Best case scenario? ND signs a top 5 class with championship caliber talent. Worst case scenario? Roster holes with late flips that ND can’t address well because of transfer restrictions. Got to wait and see.

 

[NDdomer2]

Exactly. What people don’t realize — and is 100% a stone cold fact, not opinion — is that BK basically got “intentionally” lazy after the debacle of the 2012 class. I don’t know how many people remember #BangBangNotreDameGang and all of that drama. But I have it on good authority from an assistant coach who was there at that time that BK basically decided that any kid that they had to hard sell or pressure recruit was going to fail at ND.

So after the flirtation with the Eagles in ‘13, he let Notre Dame “recruit itself” and looked for fit above all else. I’m not saying this was a good approach, but it certainly led to recruiting class and roster stability.

Marcus Freeman, by contrast, is trying to do what it takes to win a championship NOT what it takes to win ~10 games a year and keep your job. That means there are going to be a lot more dramatic recruiting battles for coveted national prospects. It’s also happening in the era of NIL, where there will be more late cycle flips than ever. People need to buckle up.

Best case scenario? ND signs a top 5 class with championship caliber talent. Worst case scenario? Roster holes with late flips that ND can’t address well because of transfer restrictions. Got to wait and see.

Which one seems more likely?

I'll stand by that the only thing that truly needed to change in our existing recruiting was landing legit QB.

The whole boat didn't need completely rocked.

NIL and especially the instant transfer make FIT even more important IMO.

 

[irishff1014]

Comes with the territory. I'd rather be playing with the big boys and have UGA trying to flip a recruit than some team like Pitt or NW because we aren't reeling in the elite.

I agree with you 100%. But a lot of these young men are about the attention. And like Lax said the NIL is going to make recruiting more dramatic than ever.

 

[irishff1014]

I hope you don't treat your job like your fandom.

"You thought that last fire was bad, this one is probably going to implode shortly after we arrive. Don't get your hopes up"

I still believe that we will get across the board better prospects. Which overall will make the team better. See Lax's post.

 

[IrishLax]

Which one seems more likely?

I'll stand by that the only thing that truly needed to change in our existing recruiting was landing legit QB.

The whole boat didn't need completely rocked.

NIL and especially the instant transfer make FIT even more important IMO.

I'm not sure. I really don't know how NIL will play out. What I will say is that I think some programs are going to get burned much worse than ND *but* they will also have more ability to backfill in the transfer market after missing on signing day.

There is significant talk at the NCAA level about limiting the "transfer portal" to certain windows and also pushing back NSD because people expect total chaos this year. There is also talk about limiting the number of transfers you can add per season to ~5 at the FBS level or having some other limitation on how much you can retool your roster in free agency. I don't expect legislation for at least another two seasons though, especially because there is other stuff that needs to shake out first about self governance, NIL, etc.

 

[NDBoiler]

It seems like the majority of kids who are “committed” still take visits these days. Is there any good reason to get worked up about this in that case?

 

[Luckylucci]

I personally think we can do both and that should be the focus. Which is why I like the addition of Zinter. And, I would like them to add Hanafin and a couple/few other guys this Spring and Summer. There is no reason that you can't get 2 S's committed plus save a spot for Bowen who may or may not ultimately end up in the class. You can take 2 CB's and then stay on Rhett, Muhammed, etc. You can take 2 DE's and then stay on Keeley. So on and so forth. Plus, not every position will require this like OL, TE, QB, etc. There is no reason that it has to be all or nothing. The only way this burns us is if we do what we did last year at S and WR. We need to have numbers nailed down with prospects that are not taking visits and flirting with other schools. You can still find very good players that have more traditional recruitments.

 

[irishog77]

Which one seems more likely?

I'll stand by that the only thing that truly needed to change in our existing recruiting was landing legit QB.

The whole boat didn't need completely rocked.

NIL and especially the instant transfer make FIT even more important IMO.

I think it was more than that.

I think they definitely needed legit WR,'s CB's and S's as well (other than Hamilton, S play has been mediocre). Maybe even LB's too.
And for every JOK, Okwara, Jaylon, Tuitt, etc. they had, there was often a pedestrian player as each's counterpart. And the drop off for substitutions or the replacement after they left was steep. I think more than landing a legit QB was what needed to change.

 

[Irish du Nord]

I think it was more than that.

I think they definitely needed legit WR,'s CB's and S's as well (other than Hamilton, S play has been mediocre). Maybe even LB's too.
And for every JOK, Okwara, Jaylon, Tuitt, etc. they had, there was often a pedestrian player as each's counterpart. And the drop off for substitutions or the replacement after they left was steep. I think more than landing a legit QB was what needed to change.

I would argue that post 2017 our safety play has been stronger than our corner play every year. Gilman-Elliott was a pretty good pair. Has safety been worse than RB? Interior DL?

 

[irishog77]

I would argue that post 2017 our safety play has been stronger than our corner play every year. Gilman-Elliott was a pretty good pair. Has safety been worse than RB? Interior DL?

Maybe. The point was that ND needed to do more from a recruiting standpoint than go get a QB.

 

[Blazers46]

Exactly. What people don’t realize — and is 100% a stone cold fact, not opinion — is that BK basically got “intentionally” lazy after the debacle of the 2012 class. I don’t know how many people remember #BangBangNotreDameGang and all of that drama. But I have it on good authority from an assistant coach who was there at that time that BK basically decided that any kid that they had to hard sell or pressure recruit was going to fail at ND.

So after the flirtation with the Eagles in ‘13, he let Notre Dame “recruit itself” and looked for fit above all else. I’m not saying this was a good approach, but it certainly led to recruiting class and roster stability.

Marcus Freeman, by contrast, is trying to do what it takes to win a championship NOT what it takes to win ~10 games a year and keep your job. That means there are going to be a lot more dramatic recruiting battles for coveted national prospects. It’s also happening in the era of NIL, where there will be more late cycle flips than ever. People need to buckle up.

Best case scenario? ND signs a top 5 class with championship caliber talent. Worst case scenario? Roster holes with late flips that ND can’t address well because of transfer restrictions. Got to wait and see.

That FB page was golden.

 

[Irish#1]

I personally think we can do both and that should be the focus.

I have to believe that is the focus. He's going after more elite talent, but that doesn't mean he has to throw out the old tenets.

 

[Dale]

It’s really not hard to hide one safety nowadays if you have good safety play from the other and from a Rover/Nickel. Even UGA and Bama their relative weakness was their second safety. NDs problem is they had above average play (actually elite) from only 1/3 last year.

 

[irishog77]

It’s really not hard to hide one safety nowadays if you have good safety play from the other and from a Rover/Nickel. Even UGA and Bama their relative weakness was their second safety. NDs problem is they had above average play (actually elite) from only 1/3 last year.

Very true. But not so much in your base defense. And perhaps in your short yardage defense.

But all you're really saying here though is that if you have a 3rd corner who can cover better than your worst S or a LB who can be decent in coverage and near the line of scrimmage you don't need another good S. This is precisely why teams have sub packages and situational alignments and personnel though.

I mean another way to cover up bad S play is having outstanding DL, LB's and CB's too.