'23 MO RB Jeremiyah Love (Notre Dame Signee)

[jprue24]

If Under Armor is doing us a disservice athletically, the University should be more proactive getting us a different deal. I’ve never worn their shoes before, yet alone cleats, but do they have a reputation of manufacturing poor athletic materials?

I think their shoes suck.

I have a wonderful looking white pair of ND sneakers that do a number on my feet even after I broke them in.

 

[CHIDomer9]

Do fans from other UA schools blame UA for injuries?

Do people think that the UA trainers I wear to take out the garbage are expected to be of the same quality as cleats for high level athletes with millions of dollars at stake?

And UA makes all of the shoes for ND, both cleats and non-cleats. Do we see an inordinate number of injuries when ND players are training sans cleats?

 

[stlnd01]

Do fans from other UA schools blame UA for injuries?

Do people think that the UA trainers I wear to take out the garbage are expected to be of the same quality as cleats for high level athletes with millions of dollars at stake?

And UA makes all of the shoes for ND, both cleats and non-cleats. Do we see an inordinate number of injuries when ND players are training sans cleats?

Yeah I definitely assume that Jeremiyah Love will wear the same shoes I buy my eight-year-old soccer star at Dick's.

 

[Luckylucci]

During his ESP presser, Freeman mentioned Love as a guy they felt could help early. I thought that was surprising. Not because of his talent but because of the depth chart. If he's able to make an early move on the depth chart, then that likely spells very good things for his career.

 

[NDFAN2008]

During his ESP presser, Freeman mentioned Love as a guy they felt could help early. I thought that was surprising. Not because of his talent but because of the depth chart. If he's able to make an early move on the depth chart, then that likely spells very good things for his career.

Exactly considering all signs point that Chris Tyree is coming back and then throw in DIGSS, Audric, and then Jadarian Price who I think if healthy is our best back on the roster.

 

[condoms SUCk]

Looks like our current ten-year deal with Under Armour expires in 2024. So, maybe that’s happening now?

The uniforms - which IMO are fine, better than adidas before them - and apparel get most of the attention. But the quality of the footwear matters too. I’ve definitely seen people blame UA cleats for foot injuries, especially for our bigger guys. But I dunno.

For what little it’s worth, whenever I have bought UA shoes for my kids they’ve been kinda crappy compared with adidas or new balance - as maybe befits a company that’s not primarily a shoe company - but I would hope/assume the shoes they give to elite college football programs are higher-quality?

Was listening to one of the ND pod's and they were talking about the AU deal renewal. We'll most likely be staying w/ Au for a few reasons: 1) ND singed a letter some years back condemning Nike and their use of child labor so, not going w/ Nike. 2) I guess JS's son in a higher up at AU (can neither confirm nor deny this).

 

[stlnd01]

Was listening to one of the ND pod's and they were talking about the AU deal renewal. We'll most likely be staying w/ Au for a few reasons: 1) ND singed a letter some years back condemning Nike and their use of child labor so, not going w/ Nike. 2) I guess JS's son in a higher up at AU (can neither confirm nor deny this).

Hm. Well, according to his LinkedIn page, one Cal Swarbrick leads North American collegiate sports marketing for Under Armour.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/calswarbrick/

Not sure how "higher up" that is, or how big a role that would play in Notre Dame's next apparel contract, but it's not nothing.

 

[jprue24]

Hm. Well, according to his LinkedIn page, one Cal Swarbrick leads North American collegiate sports marketing for Under Armour.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/calswarbrick/

Not sure how "higher up" that is, or how big a role that would play in Notre Dame's next apparel contract, but it's not nothing.

Ethically, JS should remove himself from these contract talks. Whether that happens or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[irishandy]

We know what Estime and Diggs are capable of, I hope ND moves Tyree to a hybrid giving Love & Price touches at RB.

It would be nice to see Love at the B&G game, but I think we'll hear a lot about him in the summer/fall camp.

 

[IrishBoognish]

We know what Estime and Diggs are capable of, I hope ND moves Tyree to a hybrid giving Love & Price touches at RB.

It would be nice to see Love at the B&G game, but I think we'll hear a lot about him in the summer/fall camp.

This just has to happen. It's pretty clear that if Tyree wants a shot in the NFL, it's gonna be his pass catching/speed in space skills that get him there. He's just not cut out for traditional RB duties.

 

[irishfan]

I hope I’m wrong but I think people are overestimating how quickly Price will be back to 100%

 

[Domina Nostra]

I hope I’m wrong but I think people are overestimating how quickly Price will be back to 100%

Completely agree.

 

[SDIrishFan]

I hope I’m wrong but I think people are overestimating how quickly Price will be back to 100%

I’d be a lil surprised if he’s even full go come fall camp.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

I hope I’m wrong but I think people are overestimating how quickly Price will be back to 100%

Fact., there are literally few athletes in the world who worked harder than Kobe Bryant and even he never fully recovered from an achilles. Granted he was older but he was a world class athlete, so there is legitimate reason for concern here.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Fact., there are literally few athletes in the world who worked harder than Kobe Bryant and even he never fully recovered from an achilles. Granted he was older but he was a world class athlete, so there is legitimate reason for concern here.

Yeah, we need to prepare ourselves for the fact that there’s a good chance Price will never be the same. Achilles tears just aren’t the same as acl’s.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Fact., there are literally few athletes in the world who worked harder than Kobe Bryant and even he never fully recovered from an achilles. Granted he was older but he was a world class athlete, so there is legitimate reason for concern here.

Kobe was 35 and had been playing professionally for nearly 2 decades at that point. Far more wear and tear, and the dude was nearly twice Price's age.

It doesn't matter how world class an athlete they are, nobody is safe from time. The recovery process for a 19 year old is very different than that of a 35 year old with as much tread on the tire as Kobe.

Not to mention, that was a decade ago. I think people would be surprised how fast modern medicine progresses in such a short time, much less 10 years. Look at Cam Akers. Dude tore his achilles in July of '21 and was back in action by January of '22, less than half a year later.

I don't think anybody is overestimating Price's return. But him not being full go for fall camp is ludicrous. That's like 14 months post-injury. It's a bad injury, but it's not THAT bad.

 

[notredomer23]

Kobe was 35 and had been playing professionally for nearly 2 decades at that point. Far more wear and tear, and the dude was nearly twice Price's age.

It doesn't matter how world class an athlete they are, nobody is safe from time. The recovery process for a 19 year old is very different than that of a 35 year old with as much tread on the tire as Kobe.

Not to mention, that was a decade ago. I think people would be surprised how fast modern medicine progresses in such a short time, much less 10 years. Look at Cam Akers. Dude tore his achilles in July of '21 and was back in action by January of '22, less than half a year later.

I don't think anybody is overestimating Price's return. But him not being full go for fall camp is ludicrous. That's like 14 months post-injury. It's a bad injury, but it's not THAT bad.

I’m sure he’ll be full go at fall camp but using your Akers point, it took about until November of this year for him to look actually normal. Achilles are just devastating injuries. Age is definitely on Price’s side so hopefully any concerns aren’t realized.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Kobe was 35 and had been playing professionally for nearly 2 decades at that point. Far more wear and tear, and the dude was nearly twice Price's age.

It doesn't matter how world class an athlete they are, nobody is safe from time. The recovery process for a 19 year old is very different than that of a 35 year old with as much tread on the tire as Kobe.

Not to mention, that was a decade ago. I think people would be surprised how fast modern medicine progresses in such a short time, much less 10 years. Look at Cam Akers. Dude tore his achilles in July of '21 and was back in action by January of '22, less than half a year later.

I don't think anybody is overestimating Price's return. But him not being full go for fall camp is ludicrous. That's like 14 months post-injury. It's a bad injury, but it's not THAT bad.

There is nothing “ludicrous about that possibility. Yes medicine has advanced and more people than ever before are making full returns from that type of of injury, but your dismissal of the possibility he may not be ready for this year or may not make a 100% recovery altogether indicates to me you clearly do not fully understand the severity of an achilles tear. Obviously we are all hoping and wishing the best for him but its completely naive to dismiss these concerns no matter how much you think you know.

 

[IA4irish]

There is nothing “ludicrous about that possibility. Yes medicine has advanced and more people than ever before are making full returns from that type of of injury, but your dismissal of the possibility he may not be ready for this year or may not make a 100% recovery altogether indicates to me you clearly do not fully understand the severity of an achilles tear. Obviously we are all hoping and wishing the best for him but its completely naive to dismiss these concerns no matter how much you think you know.

I’m going to admit, when I hear Achilles injury - I basically think the ceiling of your career as a running back is significantly lowered. I don’t get people thinking he’s going to be a significant player this year. Hope I’m wrong

 

[CanadalovesND]

He is a big piece moving forward. It's hard to project the RB room for 2024. Estime and Diggs could bounce to the league if they both continue their level of play, and Tyree's future is up in the air.

ND needs to enter 2024 with some experience in the RB room. I'm sure Payne & Love will get carries this season, but considering the aforementioned trio at the top, their role is likely going to be very limited this season.

 

[NorthDakota]

I’m going to admit, when I hear Achilles injury - I basically think the ceiling of your career as a running back is significantly lowered. I don’t get people thinking he’s going to be a significant player this year. Hope I’m wrong

I have a deformity which required surgeries on both my heels/achilles. Took about awhile to get back to normal, maybe a couple years? He has better care. Hope he can get back to something akin to his old self.

 

[IA4irish]

He is a big piece moving forward. It's hard to project the RB room for 2024. Estime and Diggs could bounce to the league if they both continue their level of play, and Tyree's future is up in the air.

ND needs to enter 2024 with some experience in the RB room. I'm sure Payne & Love will get carries this season, but considering the aforementioned trio at the top, their role is likely going to be very limited this season.

What has Tyree done to warrant carries at this point? Seriously. He needs to be a slot

 

[CanadalovesND]

What has Tyree done to warrant carries at this point? Seriously. He needs to be a slot

1162 career rushing yards, 5.1 YPC, 8 TDs.

He doesn't need to be a slot. He just needs to run counter or off-tackle more. They can't run him like they would with Diggs or Estime. He needs to learn to make one cut and go. He stutters too much and it ends up slowing him down or has himself tripping over his own feet. He could look a lot better just by making a few adjustments to how he's used and how he runs.

 

[ColinKSU]

I hope I’m wrong but I think people are overestimating how quickly Price will be back to 100%

10,000%. That’s the worst injury you could have as a RB. I feel for the kid.

 

[Crazy Balki]

There is nothing “ludicrous about that possibility. Yes medicine has advanced and more people than ever before are making full returns from that type of of injury, but your dismissal of the possibility he may not be ready for this year or may not make a 100% recovery altogether indicates to me you clearly do not fully understand the severity of an achilles tear. Obviously we are all hoping and wishing the best for him but its completely naive to dismiss these concerns no matter how much you think you know.

You misread my comment.

There's certainly a possibility that he has a setback and that causes his timeline to move back.

But I'm basing this off of no setbacks. In that case, 14 months is more than enough time to be fully participating in fall camp. Note, I said participating, not that he'd be 100%.

 

[Foreverirish34]

Probably an unpopular take, but I just don’t see what everyone is excited about with Love. IMO he runs too upright and has little wiggle. I hope I’m wrong. Reminds me of Eric Dickerson but, I don’t know if that style translates to todays game? What say you guys?

 

[dublinirish]

Probably an unpopular take, but I just don’t see what everyone is excited about with Love. IMO he runs too upright and has little wiggle. I hope I’m wrong. Reminds me of Eric Dickerson but, I don’t know if that style translates to todays game? What say you guys?

Adrian Peterson did fine running upright


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[Foreverirish34]

Adrian Peterson did fine running upright


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That is a good comp. But AP was a freak. I think he had a lot more in his tool box. I hope someone pulls this thread up 2 years from now and makes fun of me.

 

[Crazy Balki]

That is a good comp. But AP was a freak. I think he had a lot more in his tool box. I hope someone pulls this thread up 2 years from now and makes fun of me.

I'd say he's more like Deebo Samuel than Peterson.

His style of running is very similar to that of Josh Adams, but the main difference is that Love has that initial burst that Adams lacked. Adams was great if he could get into the open field, but if he had to make a move in the backfield to get it to work, he was usually cooked.

Love isn't like that. Love is deadly in the open field like Adams, but he has that crazy burst and good balance where you're not as likely to get him down in the backfield as easily. Being an upright runner generally is fine if you have the balance to stay upright, which Love shows off a lot in his film.

There's also the ability to stretch him out wide and be a deadly receiving option, which is where the Samuel comparison lies.

All in all, Love has A LOT of tools in his arsenal.

 

[NorthDakota]

Adrian Peterson did fine running upright


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Josh Adams too at ND.