'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

[HouseofPain]

I'm at the point now that even if some how he has a change of heart and ends up at ND this is no doubt a Gunner Kiel 2.0. he'll never take a meaningful snap

Agree 1000%

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Pot, meet kettle…
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I’m really surprised that went over your head.

 

[Blazers46]

I’m really surprised that went over your head.

Thanks?

 

[GATTACA!]

accurate - Decade plus club checking in

Oh god imagine wasting a decade of your life around this place……….oh no

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Thanks?

I regret posting in the political threads. I should’ve never clicked on any of the threads. But I went down the rabbit hole and I’m having trouble getting out. I’m here because I love Notre Dame football. I should’ve just “stuck to sports.”

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

And the game day threads

2nd this, bipolar vibes for all 4 quarters. I've posted my fair share of garbage hot takes in those.

 

[Blazers46]

I regret posting in the political threads. I should’ve never clicked on any of the threads. But I went down the rabbit hole and I’m having trouble getting out. I’m here because I love Notre Dame football. I should’ve just “stuck to sports.”

You’re doing great over there. I love the transparency.

 

[du Lac]

He’s not going to Michigan and we get Carr. OR is about as far away and under the radar as you can get for a good P5 program. There was always a 50/50 Chance CJ beat him out regardless. He’s out of our hair and not helping any Midwest powers. It’s a little disappointing but honestly, going to OR and getting Carr soften the blow almost completely for me.

 

[Ophiocordyceps]

He worked for BGI for Stu Coman at Rivals before going to start his own thing at SI Maven. He left there in 2019 to go to his new site.
I can tell stories about EJ back from his time at 247 Texas site. And how he burned every bridge at 247 to get to BGI, then immediately jump to the Wolverine. Then he started attacking other reporters from ND & UM sites on Twitter.

EJ sounds like a fun guy

 

[Blazers46]

EJ sounds like a fun guy

I kind of see him as a message board guy armed with a job title and a little media access who is living his life long dream contacting high school recruits. I feel like he could get fired and blackballed from the industry and still contact recruits.

 

[Irishdrunk]

The subtext on the ISD thing is that he used to work there. And then he left to be a D2 WR coach and that didn’t go well, and so he came back to ISD and Mike Frank hired him back. And like… a lot of people weren’t happy about him being hired back because he had been a dick to them. I’ll skip most of the other details and just say that — after Mike had really gone out on a limb for him to give him a second chance — he then left to start a direct competitor. And fwiw, another ISD writer had passed on the offer from Maven to start the ND team site before they went to Driskell.

So he has bad blood with those guys, but he also has beef with Prister and 247 and I’m not sure who else for different reasons. For example, some of those guys accused or alluded to him of stealing their content and passing it off as their own.

No one has ever been hated on the beat like EJ Holland was though holy shit. I thought he might get punched by someone.

I heard he supported Kelly until some 2011 Vandy Post Game conference where Kelly, not surprisingly, out-dicked him and then he became the lead Kelly hater.

 

[Sea Turtle]

All sunshine makes a desert.

 

[Ricochet]

I'm not pro or anti Driskell but he didn't leave ISD to start a direct competitor with Maven. After his 2nd go around with ISD he moved on to (Rivals) Blue and Gold. He was there when they brought on Mike Singer and EJ Holland. After that he quickly moved on SI/Maven and EJ thankfully moved on to cover Michigan.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Mike Singer just flipped his CB to Ducks

As Rudy Reuttiger once said:

 

[NDPhilly]

Excited to see the NIL package here nonetheless. The more ridiculous it is the faster everything gets reigned in.

 

[NDFAN420]

The subtext on the ISD thing is that he used to work there. And then he left to be a D2 WR coach and that didn’t go well, and so he came back to ISD and Mike Frank hired him back. And like… a lot of people weren’t happy about him being hired back because he had been a dick to them. I’ll skip most of the other details and just say that — after Mike had really gone out on a limb for him to give him a second chance — he then left to start a direct competitor. And fwiw, another ISD writer had passed on the offer from Maven to start the ND team site before they went to Driskell.

So he has bad blood with those guys, but he also has beef with Prister and 247 and I’m not sure who else for different reasons. For example, some of those guys accused or alluded to him of stealing their content and passing it off as their own.

No one has ever been hated on the beat like EJ Holland was though holy shit. I thought he might get punched by someone.

This is the outline I remember, especially the "Who the hell does this guy think he is?" reaction I gave to Driskell when listening to him torment poor Mike Frank and give his superficial film room comments.

 

[du Lac]

Michigan is just getting nothing. LOL.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Michigan is just getting nothing. LOL.

 

[Blazers46]

Michigan is just getting nothing. LOL.

Literally. It will be interesting to see how they fill this class.

 

[NDMatt91]

Time to turn up the heat on Jackson Arnold. IIRC we either lead or he wanted to come but the staff went all in on Dante. He's teammates with Peyton Bowen, so hopefully he can get in his ear.

 

[TorontoGold]

Time to turn up the heat on Jackson Arnold. IIRC we either lead or he wanted to come but the staff went all in on Dante. He's teammates with Peyton Bowen, so hopefully he can get in his ear.

Arnold to Peyton's other teammate

 

[Dale]

Time to turn up the heat on Jackson Arnold. IIRC we either lead or he wanted to come but the staff went all in on Dante. He's teammates with Peyton Bowen, so hopefully he can get in his ear.

He just chose OU over us, and probably is part of the reason Bowen keeps visiting OU.

 

[du Lac]

Literally. It will be interesting to see how they fill this class.

Was reading their board and they are at an all time low. Many are conceding to a futur of 20-30 range ranked classes.

I will say, if Michigan turns the heat up on NIL, they are dangerous. They have one of the largest endowments, right at NDs level. Of course nobody can compare to Harvard. Texas is the biggest P5, so obviously very dangerous too.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I'm not doubting he was a silent to ND at some point. However, all the experts held off on CBs. What is different with that and what is happening now with him and Oregon to make it that experts are throwing their CBs in?

 

[stlnd01]

I'm not doubting he was a silent to ND at some point. However, all the experts held off on CBs. What is different with that and what is happening now with him and Oregon to make it that experts are throwing their CBs in?

I would guess the difference is a green light from Moore's side of the equation.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Was reading their board and they are at an all time low. Many are conceding to a futur of 20-30 range ranked classes.

I will say, if Michigan turns the heat up on NIL, they are dangerous. They have one of the largest endowments, right at NDs level. Of course nobody can compare to Harvard. Texas is the biggest P5, so obviously very dangerous too.

I don't think people understand how an endowment works. Most of it isn't comprised of a giant slush fund. Most of it is gifts with very specific uses. If the thought is that "x school has a big endowment so they'll be able to also raise money for football" then maybe, maybe not. It's a sign that they have wealthy contributions to the school.

It all depends on how much priority the wealthy alum give to the various sports.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Not hating the players, hating the game.

 

[du Lac]

https://www.usnews.com/education/be...s/10-universities-with-the-biggest-endowmentsI don't think people understand how an endowment works. Most of it isn't comprised of a giant slush fund. Most of it is gifts with very specific uses. If the thought is that "x school has a big endowment so they'll be able to also raise money for football" then maybe, maybe not. It's a sign that they have wealthy contributions to the school.

It all depends on how much priority the wealthy alum give to the various sports.

Stanford is a good example. Massive endowment. Far far (like $20 + billion far) bigger than any of the teams paying absurd money. Don’t give a damn about football. But if the big dogs wanted, it’d be a nerd fest.

Places like Miami, Oregon, and Tennessee are like impoverished third world countries compared to this list, if you thought of it as GDP.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/the-short-list-college/articles/10-universities-with-the-biggest-endowments

The only two meaningful schools in that list from a football perspective, besides A&M, are ND and Michigan. Ironic the two mentioned are the ones that seem to be playing it safest. I suppose you don’t get rich by wasting money.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I regret posting in the political threads. I should’ve never clicked on any of the threads. But I went down the rabbit hole and I’m having trouble getting out. I’m here because I love Notre Dame football. I should’ve just “stuck to sports.”

I checked them out since I've been back. Going to sit those out. I'm good. Real good.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I don't think people understand how an endowment works. Most of it isn't comprised of a giant slush fund. Most of it is gifts with very specific uses.

Most of the time it's even more restrictive than that. Not only is the money limited to specific uses, but it's usually only the income generated by the principal in the endowment is that available for that purpose on an annual basis. So on a 4% spend model, ND's $12.3b endowment would generate about $500m in income a year.

Virtually none of that is available for NIL. It'll take many years to build FUND up to the point where it can confidently throw that kind of money around, and who knows what'll happen with the regulatory environment over that period.