‘23 AZ QB Roch Cholowsky (Offer - UCLA Baseball Verbal)

[Irish4life]

Wasn't it Swarbrick who bent over backwards and twisted himself into a pretzel to keep Rees before he even finalized who the next HC was?

No. Freeman wanted Rees to be his OC.

 

[stlnd01]

Wasn't it Swarbrick who bent over backwards and twisted himself into a pretzel to keep Rees before he even finalized who the next HC was?

I know you don't like Rees but do you actually believe that's how it went down?

 

[Irishdrunk]

What a shit show. Can we actually get a real QB???

Btw he is not comparable in football to Dylan Lonergan. That is a kid ND should have pursued earlier as well.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I know you don't like Rees but do you actually believe that's how it went down?

That’s how it went down.

 

[stlnd01]

It is pretty baffling that we haven't been able to get a single decent QB recruit to visit this entire season and we're down to a baseball player for '23. I kind of got it when there was a chance Carr reclassified, but by now, we should have someone legit coming this weekend.

 

[stlnd01]

That’s how it went down.

Oh you've arrived too. Come on. Do we have to have this debate in every single thread.

 

[arndtjc]

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around how Dante Moore telling the staff he was coming has lead us to offering a baseball-first kid at QB who has only completed 50% of his passes this year. Absolutely brutal fumbling of the most important position

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around how Dante Moore telling the staff he was coming has lead us to offering a baseball-first kid at QB who has only completed 50% of his passes this year. Absolutely brutal fumbling of the most important position

It's the ND way when recruiting QB. Give us your short, uncommitted and inaccurate players and we will trot them out as starters.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

His arm and athleticism are legit.

The only downside risk happens if ND shuts down ‘23 QB recruiting just because he verbals. There’s no reason not to offer and host a visit if you think he’s worth a scholly.

 

[arahop]

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around how Dante Moore telling the staff he was coming has lead us to offering a baseball-first kid at QB who has only completed 50% of his passes this year. Absolutely brutal fumbling of the most important position

I'm trying to wrap my head around why NDs NIL game isn't competitive. Spare me they can when they prove it bullshit. 5 stars get 5 5 star money immediately. Yes ND can, just not upfront and therefore it's not competitive with elite programs

 

[Dale]

I'm trying to wrap my head around why NDs NIL game isn't competitive. Spare me they can when they prove it bullshit. 5 stars get 5 5 star money immediately. Yes ND can, just not upfront and therefore it's not competitive with elite programs

I guess this is just the air random complaints thread

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I'm trying to wrap my head around why NDs NIL game isn't competitive. Spare me they can when they prove it bullshit. 5 stars get 5 5 star money immediately. Yes ND can, just not upfront and therefore it's not competitive with elite programs

Your righteous indignation that ND isn't throwing millions at completely unproven high school athletes just for a signature is ridiculous. The current NIL landscape is new, changing daily, and ND has adapted to it pretty damn quickly. Pay-for-Play has always been illegal, even now, and we don't do it.

Would probably be better for your mental health to just go root for a team like aTm since you feel this strongly about dropping bags for high schoolers. They've clearly got the moral high ground you're looking for.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I guess this is just the air random complaints thread

It's like there's a f*cking bat signal, and they suddenly all converge on the same thread to bitch about their pet peeves, regardless of whether it's on topic or not.

 

[Henges24]

He is 6’2 though.

 

[ColinKSU]

Still having a hard time wrapping my head around how Dante Moore telling the staff he was coming has lead us to offering a baseball-first kid at QB who has only completed 50% of his passes this year. Absolutely brutal fumbling of the most important position

We have an OC that got absolutely clowned by Dante and his dad and was apparently the only person following the recruitment who couldn’t see it.

 

[NDdomer2]

We have an OC that got absolutely clowned by Dante and his dad and was apparently the only person following the recruitment who couldn’t see it.

Marcus got equally clowned

 

[Irishdrunk]

Oh you've arrived too. Come on. Do we have to have this debate in every single thread.

I didn’t Bring up this topic or so-called debate! I don’t know how I can even be debatable this is a complete fucking shit show in terms of QB recruiting for 2023 and the QB room sucks big-time. But hey if you still have a soft spot for Tommy Rees you can always just blame Brian Kelly right?

 

[BobbyMac]

Horrible that this got a thread... and I saw him throw 5 TD's against my local team.

BTW... he's been out with an injury since Sept.

Lastly, if Koon was the OC, your QB room looks like:

5*Phil
Max Duggan
Drew Pyne
JJ McCarthy
Brady Allen
Chris Vizzina

 

[Irish4life]

Horrible that this got a thread... and I saw him throw 5 TD's against my local team.

BTW... he's been out with an injury since Sept.

Lastly, if Koon was the OC, your QB room looks like:

5*Phil
Max Duggan
Drew Pyne
JJ McCarthy
Brady Allen
Chris Vizzina

No Devin Leary?

 

[Irishdrunk]

Marcus got equally clowned

Meanwhile Kelly has a very good starting QB from a transfer and an otherwise deep QB room as well.

This is all an experience growing pains. Nobody on the staff is walking on water.

 

[BobbyMac]

No Devin Leary?

Nope. #It'sStillPhil

 

[BobbyMac]

Meanwhile Kelly has a very good starting QB from a transfer and an otherwise deep QB room as well.

This is all an experience growing pains. Nobody on the staff is walking on water.

If you think Daniels would've ever come to ND over an LSU or equal level factory, you're not really into how things work.

 

[GATTACA!]

Your righteous indignation that ND isn't throwing millions at completely unproven high school athletes just for a signature is ridiculous.

Seriously why would any of us give a shit? UND has more money than god. Spend $50 million on each class for all I care. Just win.

 

[arahop]

I guess this is just the air random complaints thread

Your righteous indignation that ND isn't throwing millions at completely unproven high school athletes just for a signature is ridiculous. The current NIL landscape is new, changing daily, and ND has adapted to it pretty damn quickly. Pay-for-Play has always been illegal, even now, and we don't do it.

Would probably be better for your mental health to just go root for a team like aTm since you feel this strongly about dropping bags for high schoolers. They've clearly got the moral high ground you're looking for.

Lol The ROI is worth it. Why don't you do a study on what 2 five stars a year would bring in monetarily for the University? I'm just not set in my ways and believe in Capitalism and supply and demand. Don't sit on your 'moral" high horse. ND is a football factory, ND brings in the second most money per year behind only Texas. just not one that is interested in competing for Championships. It won't devalue your degree. ND won't ever break the the Top 20 in academic ranking. A few more five stars won't devalue your degree

 

[Dale]

Lol The ROI is worth it. Why don't you do a study on what 2 five stars a year would bring in monetarily for the University? I'm just not set in my ways and believe in Capitalism and supply and demand. Don't sit on your 'moral" high horse. ND is a football factory, ND brings in the second most money per year behind only Texas. just not one that is interested in competing for Championships. It won't devalue your degree. ND won't ever break the the Top 20 in academic ranking. A few more five stars won't devalue your degree

I don’t really care to argue NIL, you just clearly saw a thread of others complaining about their normal complaints and thought hey I want in too!

 

[arahop]

It's like there's a f*cking bat signal, and they suddenly all converge on the same thread to bitch about their pet peeves, regardless of whether it's on topic or not.

Yeah because of ND had adapted to NIL quickly they would have had Dante Moore. And we are here. At a kid whos primary sport isn't football. Go ahead though and act like complaints aren't warranted from how the timeline of events played out this cycle at QB

 

[arahop]

I don’t really care to argue NIL, you just clearly saw a thread of others complaining about their normal complaints and thought hey I want in too!

No Dale it's more of a how we got to where we are in the 2023 cycle at QB. From Dante Moore to whoever the fuck this kid is. Get excited and optimistic though.

Think of it as a timeline of complaints with reasoning of why ND is where it is.
Dante Moore all the way to Roch Whoever this kid is. Congratulations to Roch!
Cheers to anti NIL jag bags out there

 

[Dale]

Think of it as a timeline of complaints with reasoning of why ND is where it is.

Timeline implies a series of new events occurring. You just post the same complaint over and over about the ND Administration. We get it. Arahop hates the ND Admins, BoT etc. NIL could buy a player. Points are clear. It’s not adding anything at this point.

 

[GATTACA!]

Timeline implies a series of new events occurring. You just post the same complaint over and over about the ND Administration. We get it. Arahop hates the ND Admins, BoT etc. NIL could buy a player. Points are clear. It’s not adding anything at this point.

What type of deep scouting discussion do you expect about some baseball player no scouting service has even heard of? This is just embarrassing.

 

[PolishDomer]

Given its a small sample size, but I think this is a mistake. There has been limited success with the baseball/football as it applies to the QB position. Last time I remember with such a prospect was Ewan Sharpley...didn't work out well.