'22 CA CB Jaden Mickey (Notre Dame Signee)

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Anything other than the West Coast would be a surprise. Big assumption was that he may want to be closer to his family back in Corona, California.
 

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Because he quit on his team and supposedly wanted to be closer to home. When did it change and become ok to quit in the middle of a season? After the year is whatever but during a season?

Fair questions. I'd say when ND started processing kids with med redshirts retirements.

Mickey is still going to school and on track to graduate in the spring. Why is it okay for ND to churn the roster, but it's not okay for players to look for better opportunities
 
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I never thought it was to be closer to home, never heard that said. He’s staying at school during the season anyways. He’s looking out for his future the best he thinks he can - no judgement.

But, he straight up quit on this team, that is fact.
 

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Fair questions. I'd say when ND started processing kids with med redshirts.

Mickey is still going to school and on track to graduate in the spring. Why is it okay for ND to churn the roster, but it's not okay for players to look for better opportunities

I have absolutely no problem with him leaving after the past spring or after this season. Leaving in the middle of the season is quitting on the team. Just my opinion.
 

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When did he ever say it was to be closer to home? This is what college football is he is getting his degree and moving on
 

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I have absolutely no problem with him leaving after the past spring or after this season. Leaving in the middle of the season is quitting on the team. Just my opinion.
He didn't make the 4 game rule. The NCAA created these in season decision points.

Teams will burn a player's shirt for the team's benefit, but player's shouldn't have the same perspective?

A different view from when Jahmir Smith did the same thing.
One thing to keep in mind why some guys leave the team, they need 24/7 to get on top of classwork to graduate early. Staff in many cases prefers this as it opens up the scholarship in time for a new player in the current recruiting class.
 

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When did he ever say it was to be closer to home? This is what college football is he is getting his degree and moving on
He didn’t. Some speculated it was that based on his Mom passing. It was all about our depth chart and projected depth chart next year. He has NFL dreams and he wants to start. I think that’s all it is.
 

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He didn’t. Some speculated it was that based on his Mom passing. It was all about our depth chart and projected depth chart next year. He has NFL dreams and he wants to start. I think that’s all it is.
I know that it's people on here who are butt hurt he's transferring. He lost playing time to Moore and he is taking advantage of the rules and I have no issue with that
 

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It’s people on here who are fans of a team and spectators who have zero obligation to give grace and charitable thoughts to anyone. So when we are thin on DB depth and he quits its thumbs down time. i can smile and salute when it’s family situation and think fuck him when it’s not. And stop trying to slut shame any of us who feel that way. Because as big an asshole as you think it makes me, I promise you that I equally consider your a bizarre jock sniffer.
 

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Because as big an asshole as you think it makes me, I promise you that I equally consider your a bizarre jock sniffer.
I don't think it's hard to elevate the human above the sport and not shit on them for doing what they think is best for themselves.....because it's a sport that provides me entertainment.
 

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I don't think it's hard to elevate the human above the sport and not shit on them for doing what they think is best for themselves.....because it's a sport that provides me entertainment.
It's also a team sport and he quit on his teammates in the middle of the season, apparently just because one of them passed him on the depth chart. I don't really feel the need to "elevate" that.
 

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It's also a team sport and he quit on his teammates in the middle of the season, apparently just because one of them passed him on the depth chart. I don't really feel the need to "elevate" that.
But you're good with processing kids that we took a verbal from?
 

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I don't think it's hard to elevate the human above the sport and not shit on them for doing what they think is best for themselves.....because it's a sport that provides me entertainment.
No one here has any fucks to give at your weird ass virtue signaling. And NO i do not, these are highly paid and rewarded gladiators. They accept the hoorays and boos with the lofty status they are afforded for athletic prowess. If it is too much for any of them than they are more than welcome to pay for a chemistry degree like everyone else.
 

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But you're good with processing kids that we took a verbal from?
You mean recruits before they're signed? I don't love it, no, but I understand why it happens occasionally (just like I understand why Mickey did what he did.) I imagine you'll see less of it with 105 scholarships.

I also think there's a decent way to do it (well before Signing Day) and I think in the rare occasions we have processed committed recruits, we have done so in a decent manner. I saw onetime RB commit Sedrick Irvin plays for Stanford now and that doesn't seem like the worst outcome in the world.
 

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It's also a team sport and he quit on his teammates in the middle of the season, apparently just because one of them passed him on the depth chart. I don't really feel the need to "elevate" that.
Who is elevating it (edit - the situation)? I'm trying to figure out why it's so important to that fuck to denigrate the guy two weeks after the decision. I get coming here to vent when it happened,


I get it now, though. @INLaw is just a bitter and emotional piece of shit. His whining makes sense.
 
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I knew I should have ignored this thread the first two times folks on here decided to be assholes about this. Lesson learned. Don’t waste energy replying with any name calling or invented grievances, I won’t see it.
 

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Fair questions. I'd say when ND started processing kids with med redshirts retirements.

Mickey is still going to school and on track to graduate in the spring. Why is it okay for ND to churn the roster, but it's not okay for players to look for better opportunities
I think the point is he would be getting more PT now and he’s not a bench warmer. He has received a lot of support from the ND community and been the subject of news specials. If he leaves at the end of a season ok. If he isn’t leaving to be closer to home which is a homesick family issue then ok. If he quits mid season and goes somewhere that isn’t closer to home then no thanks. Churn the roster? What does that mean exactly. Kid wants to quit in his team mid season especially a season where we are losing players at his position then any remaining semesters after the season can be paid for by the quitting player.
 

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Who is elevating it (edit - the situation)? I'm trying to figure out why it's so important to that fuck to denigrate the guy two weeks after the decision. I get coming here to vent when it happened,


I get it now, though. @INLaw is just a bitter and emotional piece of shit. His whining makes sense.
There was a time when as a society quitting was frowned upon, and we were better for it. Also extremely grateful you are not part of our armed forces.
 

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There was a time when as a society quitting was frowned upon, and we were better for it.
Wake up then. He's changing jobs. This is where the sport is going. I know you think that sucks.

I'm criticizing the attitude of people who want to qualify his decision without any information. Not if he quit. He did. The NCAA made it much more advantageous for him to.

He's graduating. He's moving on, why can't we?
 
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Also extremely grateful you are not part of our armed forces.
You know what happens when you assume things about people....

...you compare football to combat. Go look up SkillBridge
 
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There was a time when as a society quitting was frowned upon, and we were better for it. Also extremely grateful you are not part of our armed forces.
Did you look up skillbridge and how the military lets people go work as an intern for up to 6 months before the end of their enlistment?

No? Weird since you seem to care about them so much.

It's almost like...the solider/sailor/airmen/marine/spaceman knows they are going to leave the service, but then decide to quit on their team early so they can go prepare for their next stage in life and the military is like...."Absofuckinglutely!"

Not a shred of similarity to Jaden making the decision to leave ND and ND letting him stay on scholarship, cause they aren't fucking assholes?

So reexplain to me how supporting someone as they go through a life transition, that does not benefit you or your tribe, is not compatible with our armed forces?

24 years, fuckface and it's still irrelevant to supporting someone making a choice for themselves and not for you or the group.
 
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