'21 LA RB Logan Diggs (Notre Dame --> LSU Transfer)

[forkbeard3777]

I know what you’re saying and appreciate the sentiment of Bama getting torched, but just as SEC teams all like to dress up in their cult garbs of SEC propaganda, I don’t drink any of that koolaid. They can all wear the white sneakers, but not me.

That doesn’t make sense. Are you a drunkard?

 

[forkbeard3777]

No, but aren’t you an LSU fan? Don’t you have some Tiger droppings to pick up?

That place is filled with nut jobs

 

[forkbeard3777]

Fork is an LSU fan.

With a soft spot in my heart for ND, stlnd01. 😉

 

[INLaw]

With a soft spot in my heart for ND, stlnd01. 😉

Etoufee and enough to share or gtfo

 

[forkbeard3777]

Etoufee and enough to share or gtfo

I’d love to…maybe I’ll have a makeshift tailgate and whip up some etouffe and pastalaya at the game I attend this year. If so, it will be plentiful and all are welcome. I’ll even be sure and make a “special batch” just for ND88.

 

[ulukinatme]

Diggs struggled almost every game early until estime would wear down the D. I think diggs was super overrated and benefited from an oline estime and game plan that wore down teams

Just my opinion but I think his injuries have not allowed him to stay in shape.

Diggs was rusty coming back from injury, but his stats were almost identical to Estime's at the end of the season. Estime had slightly more yards on the ground, Diggs had more receiving yards. If Diggs is super overrated then you're putting Estime in the same boat based on production. If anything Diggs was the better back at the end of the day because he took care of the football.

 

[ulukinatme]

I simply do not buy that Diggs will get more "attention" from NFL scouts because he's in the SEC. Logan Diggs didn't become a better RB because he traded in his ND uniform for an LSU uniform. He's a good college RB. Nothing more nothing less.

Really? Because you'd be wrong.

I'm not going to pretend that they haven't had a talent advantage over most of our RBs for the last several years, but in the last 5 drafts LSU had 3 RBs get picked up in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds. The draft before that it was Fournette at 4th overall. In fact, in the last 20 years LSU has had at least one RB drafted in the first 3 rounds every 3 years or better like clockwork.
LSU: 8 draft picks in the first 3 rounds this century, 3 being 1st rounders, and 15 total players drafted.

In the last 5 years we've had 2 RBs get picked up: Kyren in the 5th, and Juice in the 6th. Kelly only had two other RBs get drafted at all in his 12 seasons: Procise in the 3rd, and Theo in the 6th. Weis never had a RB drafted, Walker went undrafted. In the 21st century Notre Dame has only had 5 RBs drafted total, the last one was the highest and it was Julius Jones in the 2nd round....20 years ago.
ND: 2 draft picks in the first 3 rounds in the last 23 years and none that are 1st rounders. Only 5 players total drafted.

We simply aren't known for producing NFL level RBs anymore. Theo exceeded expectations in Detroit, and the jury is out on Kyren, but the other recent draftees haven't amounted to anything really. Maybe Estime could change that perception, but right now Diggs stands to gain attention by moving to LSU, especially if he ends up getting more carries than he'd have if he stayed at ND. It was the smart move to improve his draft stock.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Diggs was rusty coming back from injury, but his stats were almost identical to Estime's at the end of the season. Estime had slightly more yards on the ground, Diggs had more receiving yards. If Diggs is super overrated then you're putting Estime in the same boat based on production. If anything Diggs was the better back at the end of the day because he took care of the football.

Estime averaged a yard more per carry and that is with getting all the goal line carries(hurts ypc), can’t understand someone saying diggs was better that watched games other than fumble issue(big)

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

This is probably our least talented running back room since I can remember. Seriously. I’m going back 25+ years here. Diggs should be the consistent, go to back.

You are a horrible evaluator of talent/skill. Estime is a beast. Price is returning from injury but he has a chance to be special. Gibran looked really, really good in the BG game and Love is the fastest running back we've had in how long?

Please GFY.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Really? Because you'd be wrong.

I'm not going to pretend that they haven't had a talent advantage over most of our RBs for the last several years, but in the last 5 drafts LSU had 3 RBs get picked up in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds. The draft before that it was Fournette at 4th overall. In fact, in the last 20 years LSU has had at least one RB drafted in the first 3 rounds every 3 years or better like clockwork.
LSU: 8 draft picks in the first 3 rounds this century, 3 being 1st rounders, and 15 total players drafted.

In the last 5 years we've had 2 RBs get picked up: Kyren in the 5th, and Juice in the 6th. Kelly only had two other RBs get drafted at all in his 12 seasons: Procise in the 3rd, and Theo in the 6th. Weis never had a RB drafted, Walker went undrafted. In the 21st century Notre Dame has only had 5 RBs drafted total, the last one was the highest and it was Julius Jones in the 2nd round....20 years ago.
ND: 2 draft picks in the first 3 rounds in the last 23 years and none that are 1st rounders. Only 5 players total drafted.

We simply aren't known for producing NFL level RBs anymore. Theo exceeded expectations in Detroit, and the jury is out on Kyren, but the other recent draftees haven't amounted to anything really. Maybe Estime could change that perception, but right now Diggs stands to gain attention by moving to LSU, especially if he ends up getting more carries than he'd have if he stayed at ND. It was the smart move to improve his draft stock.

I don’t think he’s going for nfl attention lsu vs nd, I think it’s to be closer to home and better chance at more carries and to start.

Agree on rb talent nd vs lsu, nd has recruited position aberage for awhile. Our oline has made rbs look better than they are, like Josh Adams or diggs imo.

 

[T-Boone]

You are a horrible evaluator of talent/skill. Estime is a beast. Price is returning from injury but he has a chance to be special. Gibran looked really, really good in the BG game and Love is the fastest running back we've had in how long?

Please GFY.

I made this same mistake. Forkbeard is an LSU fan and was talking about LSUs running backs.

 

[forkbeard3777]

You are a horrible evaluator of talent/skill. Estime is a beast. Price is returning from injury but he has a chance to be special. Gibran looked really, really good in the BG game and Love is the fastest running back we've had in how long?

Please GFY.

I meant LSU’s running back room. Mea culpa for not clarifying. Regarding Notre Dame, even with Diggs’ departure, I agree that the room is in great shape. I can’t wait to see Jeremiyah Love get some carries and get in open space. I have a friend in St. Louis who is very familiar with Love and Christian Brothers. He relayed he’s a rare talent that warrants getting considerable PT as a true freshman.

 

[CoachB]

Diggs was rusty coming back from injury, but his stats were almost identical to Estime's at the end of the season. Estime had slightly more yards on the ground, Diggs had more receiving yards. If Diggs is super overrated then you're putting Estime in the same boat based on production. If anything Diggs was the better back at the end of the day because he took care of the football.

You are irrationally high on Diggs. Like he's from your hometown or something. From an average fan, he won't be super hard to replace.

 

[indianamouse]

I get the disappointment of losing Diggs, we don’t have proven talent outside of Estime. That unproven talent is exciting though

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I meant LSU’s running back room. Mea culpa for not clarifying. Regarding Notre Dame, even with Diggs’ departure, I agree that the room is in great shape. I can’t wait to see Jeremiyah Love get some carries and get in open space. I have a friend in St. Louis who is very familiar with Love and Christian Brothers. He relayed he’s a rare talent that warrants getting considerable PT as a true freshman.

damn. I'll let my mispeak stay there unedited so people see it's better to clarify before venting after a long day of work on a football message board.

My apologies.

 

[stlnd01]

You are irrationally high on Diggs. Like he's from your hometown or something. From an average fan, he won't be super hard to replace.

Diggs is not some irreplaceable talent, but he was a solid, proven player. That's not something to take for granted.

 

[Giddyup]

Next man up. Payne looked real good and like Bijan Robinson at Falcons can’t wait for Love at ND.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Good luck to the young man


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[Irishdrunk]

You are a horrible evaluator of talent/skill. Estime is a beast. Price is returning from injury but he has a chance to be special. Gibran looked really, really good in the BG game and Love is the fastest running back we've had in how long?

Please GFY.

Wow thats harsh. He was talking about Diggs moving to LSU.

Regardless, losing Diggs is a loss.

 

[Irishdrunk]

You are irrationally high on Diggs. Like he's from your hometown or something. From an average fan, he won't be super hard to replace.

I don't think Uluk is irrationally high on Diggs. He was our clear #2. He was a proven, productive Back. The rest aside from Audric are yet to be proven.

A Bird in the Hand.......

 

[Giddyup]

What are you afraid of? These talented rb’s are chomping at the bit.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I don't think Uluk is irrationally high on Diggs. He was our clear #2. He was a proven, productive Back. The rest aside from Audric are yet to be proven.

A Bird in the Hand.......

We need better at the position…estime is it, hopefully price and love are it… heck Payne might already be better

 

[ulukinatme]

Estime averaged a yard more per carry and that is with getting all the goal line carries(hurts ypc), can’t understand someone saying diggs was better that watched games other than fumble issue(big)

And Diggs also got the ball late in games when we were running out the clock and the defense knew he was getting the ball, but they still couldn't stop him. He had something like 19 straight carries in that UNLV game, and they pulled him at the goal line each time so Estime and Tyree could finish the drives fresh. Obviously the coaches trusted his sure hands in those situations. I'm just sayin' it goes both ways, and the stats for both players are pretty comparable despite both being used differently in a 1A and 1B situation.

You are irrationally high on Diggs. Like he's from your hometown or something. From an average fan, he won't be super hard to replace.

Nah, the stats don't lie. He was a good player, right in line with Estime. Anyone saying otherwise is just full of sour grapes. Will we miss a beat with the young talent behind him? Probably not, although young talent often struggles in at least one area like pass blocking. I've maintained that we'll be fine at the RB position, but it remains to be seen who will step up to fill his leadership role.

 

[irishandy]

Diggs was a nice compliment to Estime, but I always got the vibe that Diggs did not want to be at ND, even when he originally signed.

I think ND is in good shape with Love, Payne or Price taking the load Diggs would've had.

 

[PutuporShutup]

And Diggs also got the ball late in games when we were running out the clock and the defense knew he was getting the ball, but they still couldn't stop him. He had something like 19 straight carries in that UNLV game, and they pulled him at the goal line each time so Estime and Tyree could finish the drives fresh. Obviously the coaches trusted his sure hands in those situations. I'm just sayin' it goes both ways, and the stats for both players are pretty comparable despite both being used differently in a 1A and 1B situation.


Nah, the stats don't lie. He was a good player, right in line with Estime. Anyone saying otherwise is just full of sour grapes. Will we miss a beat with the young talent behind him? Probably not, although young talent often struggles in at least one area like pass blocking. I've maintained that we'll be fine at the RB position, but it remains to be seen who will step up to fill his leadership role.

The stats show he was not as good as estime… a ypc difference is significant

Saying he got a lot of touches vs unlv isn’t reason to have your ypc down. That’s the worst D we played

 

[ulukinatme]

The stats show he was not as good as estime… a ypc difference is significant

Saying he got a lot of touches vs unlv isn’t reason to have your ypc down. That’s the worst D we played

Context is important. Again, Diggs closed out a bunch of games as he had the trusted hands, not just UNLV. That just happened to be the game he got the most carries, almost 19 straight at the end. The stats are comparable.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Context is important. Again, Diggs closed out a bunch of games as he had the trusted hands, not just UNLV. That just happened to be the game he got the most carries, almost 19 straight at the end. The stats are comparable.

He was the #2 RB on the depth chart for a reason - if not many reasons.

 

[ulukinatme]

He was the #2 RB on the depth chart for a reason - if not many reasons.

1A and 1B.
Diggs had 9 more carries and 1 more reception, 22 less yards from scrimmage. These guys both had similar production. Biggest difference is Estime got the ball at the goal line like the Bus and so he got most of the scores.

 

[PutuporShutup]

1A and 1B.
Diggs had 9 more carries and 1 more reception, 22 less yards from scrimmage. These guys both had similar production. Biggest difference is Estime got the ball at the goal line like the Bus and so he got most of the scores.

I think he's alluding Diggs was Tommy's guy and got too much PT compared to Estime when Estime was clearly the better back (minus fumble issue). It was obvious we started pretty much every game slow running the ball, and diggs was almost always the RB in the first few series where we struggled. It wasn't until estime came in and beat the D up that diggs would start having good runs normally.

Or maybe that's just my take.

 

[texbender]

Liked LD and hated to see him go. He and Estime were a nice 1-2 punch. Hoping our stable has some horses ready to run.