Also, Quinn was a 1st round pick and played 7 years in the NFL. Book was a 4th rounder and mostly a practice squad player. Leonard is projected to be a late round pick. Both Book and Leonard had serious flaws passing.
Also got a bad break with Cleveland. Who knows what would have happen if he was drafted by a team with a decent QB for him to sit and learn behind like Aaron Rodgers.
Quinn was also hindered by his rookie contract. The deal included bonuses for playing time, which gave Cleveland financial incentives to keep him on the bench.
BQ was cursed getting drafted by Cleveland. Samardzija would have been a top 10 pick and no doubt a great NFL WR. John Carlson had a nice NFL career, so did Ndukwe and Landri. Zibby may not be Kyle Hamilton but played 5 years with Baltimore when Lewis played. Same with Sergio Brown and Bruton, not a pair superstars....but both played for consistently for 7/8+ seasons. Ryan Harris had a nice long NFL career. Shit, forgot about John Sullivan and the 17 years he put in with the Ravens.
I attended that game vs Michigan at ND. I think the first or second play, he threw a pick 6. ND was ranked top 5 if I remember right. Was a bummer of a trip
That's my feeling. It's hard for me to grade all three QBs because they all brought something a little different to the table. I still probably put Quinn first, because his defense wasn't as good as the one that was backing Leonard this year (At least when they were healthy). Leonard had the more complete team, the biggest weakness we had was at WR. If you put Quinn on this team I think we win it all, even with the WR issues because Quinn's arm would keep defenses more honest and allow the running game to flourish.
Yeah Quinn was a better quarterback, objectively speaking, he just didn’t win the big games because our defense in those years was rough.
College Tebow yes, NFL Tebow...the same.
Yes. By some margin. I like Riley but I'm not sure he's closer to NDSU's QB (a nice runner and passer) than he is to Tim Tebow.
Yup. Quinn often did enough to win the big games, games like USC in 2005. Just like Leonard, he put the team on his back at times to win that game. On the final play Weis said something to Quinn, I can't remember what it was, but he called his own number and ran it in on a QB Draw to put us up. That should have been the end of it, but we gave up the long pass on a 4th down (Surprise surprise) and the rest is history. Quinn similarly did enough to beat OSU in the Fiesta Bowl, but the defense gave up over 500 yards and we lost that one too.
I was gonna say for sure, looking at their stats though their final season passing numbers are nearly identical. It’s actually pretty crazy.
Would be beautiful. But sadly the water in South Bend makes offensive coaches delete the play action plays from their call sheets.
Us at IE really took our foot off the gas this year. Last year we bullied the media into asking about play action and they finally started running it in the Pitt game. This is on us, we gotta be on point even when we’re whomping teams. The lack of PA this year with how well we ran the ball was surprising to say the least.
Leonard above Book. Not sure about Quinn.
This is a no brainer.... Quinn for sure
