2024 Fall Camp Thread

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ndfanatic78 said:
If I had to render a guess it’s purely the Elko hire and the talent on the DL. That seams to be the only proven commodities they have.
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To add, it’s on the road. Kyle Field can be one of the most daunting stadiums to play a game in as the visiting team.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Yeah. Elko. Their DL is a strength and our OL is unproven. Their QB is well-regarded but was hurt most of last year right? PTSD from Ohio State games.
All that said, we are the better team and should win by roughly a touchdown.
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If Freeman is the coach we all hope and want him to be this should an undefeated season. With the schedule, the coordinators, and the talent this team is primed for a playoff run. This team should make it to the 3rd round and then anything can happen. With how everything has aligned if Freeman can’t bring an undefeated season this year i fear he can still be a really good coach but probably not an all time great. We should be able to beat AtM 24-10. Not saying we will but we should beat able to.
 
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If A&M are still trying to figure our their O-line, our defensive front could have a big day.
 
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stpeteirish said:
To your point they were 6-1 at home last year (1-5 on the road!). Three of the wins were to patsies but the other three were SEC teams. Only lost to Bama 26-20.
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Had to cheat to stay that close. My story and I'm sticking with it! BTW, cheatin' Meatchicken SUCKS!!!
 
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stpeteirish said:
There seems to be a "chicken little" attitude here regarding Tx A&M. They went 7-6 last year, fired their coach, lost their bowl game, and endured major roster turnover. Why is everyone freaking out about how tough a game this is going to be? And the board consensus is we are a playoff team. If we are why are you so worried about the aggies?
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For me personally, because it’s a road game with a new cast of characters at important positions on offense, where it is going to be loud, hostile, and difficult to communicate.

Combine potential behind-the-sticks situations from an operational standpoint with the fact that we’ve seen how quickly Elko gets his defense ready to play, it’s going to be tough for ND to pull away in the game.

They are better than A&M, but several factors are prime for this to be a dogfight down to the wire. And when you have a bunch of new guys on offense that are gonna need time to click, facing a coach that knows how to create chaos in a difficult environment, a dogfight can tilt the wrong way in just one or two plays.

I think ND wins, but there are legit reasons to stress, whether ND is better or not.
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Yes.

CanadalovesND said:
To add, it’s on the road. Kyle Field can be one of the most daunting stadiums to play a game in as the visiting team.
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Yes.

Freeman's teams have not played well on the road in his short tenure.

Cautious optimism is the way to proceed.
 
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stpeteirish said:
There seems to be a "chicken little" attitude here regarding Tx A&M. They went 7-6 last year, fired their coach, lost their bowl game, and endured major roster turnover. Why is everyone freaking out about how tough a game this is going to be? And the board consensus is we are a playoff team. If we are why are you so worried about the aggies?
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This is what worries me:

Notre Dame:
1. The O-line is pretty new and needs time to gel.
2. Same with Denbrock: A very good OC but it will be his first game calling plays for ND and he also needs time to adjust to his player's strengths and weaknesses.
3. Same with Leonard: He missed spring practice and this will be his first game with ND. He needs time to gel with his offense.
4. 1st game on the road, at night, in a hostile environment.

T A&M:
1. They did lose their head coach but Elko is tough and is no slouch. They improved in that regard
2. Their DL is very good and will face an O-line that is one of Notre Dame's biggest question mark. Leonard better get ready to get moving, and fast.
3 Their QB has tons of talent
4. They rarely lose at home.
5. They have a lot of talent that was wasted under Fisher, but may live up to their hype with Elko.

I would be much more confident if this game was played in the middle of the season after the offense has had time to gel.

Yours truly,
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NDQuebec said:
This is what worries me:

Notre Dame:
1. The O-line is pretty new and needs time to gel.
2. Same with Denbrock: A very good OC but it will be his first game calling plays for ND and he also needs time to adjust to his player's strengths and weaknesses.
3. Same with Leonard: He missed spring practice and this will be his first game with ND. He needs time to gel with his offense.
4. 1st game on the road, at night, in a hostile environment.

T A&M:
1. They did lose their head coach but Elko is tough and is no slouch. They improved in that regard
2. Their DL is very good and will face an O-line that is one of Notre Dame's biggest question mark. Leonard better get ready to get moving, and fast.
3 Their QB has tons of talent
4. They rarely lose at home.
5. They have a lot of talent that was wasted under Fisher, but may live up to their hype with Elko.

I would be much more confident if this game was played in the middle of the season after the offense has had time to gel.

Yours truly,
Chicken little
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NDQuebec said:
This is what worries me:

Notre Dame:
1. The O-line is pretty new and needs time to gel.
2. Same with Denbrock: A very good OC but it will be his first game calling plays for ND and he also needs time to adjust to his player's strengths and weaknesses.
3. Same with Leonard: He missed spring practice and this will be his first game with ND. He needs time to gel with his offense.
4. 1st game on the road, at night, in a hostile environment.

T A&M:
1. They did lose their head coach but Elko is tough and is no slouch. They improved in that regard
2. Their DL is very good and will face an O-line that is one of Notre Dame's biggest question mark. Leonard better get ready to get moving, and fast.
3 Their QB has tons of talent
4. They rarely lose at home.
5. They have a lot of talent that was wasted under Fisher, but may live up to their hype with Elko.

I would be much more confident if this game was played in the middle of the season after the offense has had time to gel.

Yours truly,
Chicken little
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The rarely lose at home point isn’t accurate


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NDQuebec said:
This is what worries me:

Notre Dame:
1. The O-line is pretty new and needs time to gel.
2. Same with Denbrock: A very good OC but it will be his first game calling plays for ND and he also needs time to adjust to his player's strengths and weaknesses.
3. Same with Leonard: He missed spring practice and this will be his first game with ND. He needs time to gel with his offense.
4. 1st game on the road, at night, in a hostile environment.

T A&M:
1. They did lose their head coach but Elko is tough and is no slouch. They improved in that regard
2. Their DL is very good and will face an O-line that is one of Notre Dame's biggest question mark. Leonard better get ready to get moving, and fast.
3 Their QB has tons of talent
4. They rarely lose at home.
5. They have a lot of talent that was wasted under Fisher, but may live up to their hype with Elko.

I would be much more confident if this game was played in the middle of the season after the offense has had time to gel.

Yours truly,
Chicken little
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Anyone that doesn't share any of these concerns is kinda goofy, imo

But ND's defense against A+M's anemic turrble line is way more of a concern for them than there Dline is for us.

I'm confident, but worried. That's not new for me as an Irish fan in these situations


(Sorry I'm not typing very well, I'm a little high, listening to Phish play live, and thinking about ND at the same time. I get a little flustered)
 
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arrowryan said:
I guess I’m confident, but also guarded at the same time, because I’m in the “if not now, then when?” mindset.

The Irish team is way loaded. If Freeman trips up this year, I’m off the wagon.
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He could be on the hot seat going into 2025 if he doesn't at least make the playoffs, especially if recruiting continues to trend downward. Very critical year for him.
 
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So if MF loses one or two games this year, he’s on the hot seat even though his record has increased every year? Jumping the gun a little
 
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BoredIrish said:
Vegas has A&M as the slight favorite.

If I have learned one thing in all my years, its that Vegas knows more than I do.
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Sincere question: What is it that you think Vegas knows that a board full of highly-engaged Notre Dame fans does not?
They might see the world through less blue/gold-tinted glasses than we do. But the basic information about both teams is what it is.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Sincere question: What is it that you think Vegas knows that a board full of highly-engaged Notre Dame fans does not?
They might see the world through less blue/gold-tinted glasses than we do. But the basic information about both teams is what it is.
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Because Vegas uses strictly numbers for power ratings. There’s no emotion involved.
 
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stpeteirish said:
To your point they were 6-1 at home last year (1-5 on the road!). Three of the wins were to patsies but the other three were SEC teams. Only lost to Bama 26-20.
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Ehh, that sounds impressive until you look at those 3 SEC teams:

vs. Auburn W 27-10 (6-7)
vs. Arkansas W 34-22 (4-8)
vs. South Carolina W 30-17 (5-7)

All three teams had losing records, and they were all quite terrible.
 
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I think it's safe to say that the environment (and weather) will be hostile....AND....no one knows what to fully expect from A&M given all the turnover and new staff. Not sure history is relevant for this game.
 
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Crazy Balki said:
Ehh, that sounds impressive until you look at those 3 SEC teams:

vs. Auburn W 27-10 (6-7)
vs. Arkansas W 34-22 (4-8)
vs. South Carolina W 30-17 (5-7)

All three teams had losing records, and they were all quite terrible.
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Arkansas was a neutral site game. Other home win was 51-10 over Miss St. (5-7) I don't know if you can call an SEC team with a losing record "terrible".
 
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