2022-2023 Notre Dame Men's Basketball

[Henges24]

Wow. Worried about who will be on this team next year.
May as well hire the Yale coach to transfer all the players in

 

[GrangerIrish24]

The last winnable game of the season is tonight against GT.

Annnnnnd we lost

 

[PolishDomer]

Probably one of the worst teams i have seen in recent history

 

[anarin]

Guess the team rallying for Brey down the stretch is out of the question lol

 

[Irish#1]

Guess the team rallying for Brey down the stretch is out of the question lol

They're just waiting for the ACC tournament. lol

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Annnnnnd we lost

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

The lone bright spot on this roster moving forward is Lubin (well obviously Starling as well if he stays but I have my doubts there). He's gotten better as the season has progressed, even through the ankle injury.

Definitely has to learn how to defend more effectively without fouling; he was a mismatch in that game last night and I feel like we win that game comfortably if he was able to remain int he game for longer stretches in the second half.

GT had a nine game losing streak coming into that game....pathetic.

 

[stpeteirish]

Both Lubin and Starling would be threats to leave IMO. Its a train wreck. The new guy's going to have a gigantic task just to make us competitive next year. Its probably a two year rebuild at a minimum.
I gotta thank Brey for at least smelling the tire fire and leaving rather than fighting to have his contract years. If he had insisted on not stepping down it would have set us back even further, whether fired or not.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Both Lubin and Starling would be threats to leave IMO. Its a train wreck. The new guy's going to have a gigantic task just to make us competitive next year. Its probably a two year rebuild at a minimum.
I gotta thank Brey for at least smelling the tire fire and leaving rather than fighting to have his contract years. If he had insisted on not stepping down it would have set us back even further, whether fired or not.

I hope Lubin wouldn't bolt but it's entirely possible. It's still ND, the academics draw is still a factor for these guys who are "program players," not looking to bolt, but I'm sure if Lubin sees the writing on the wall he may look for a more competitive team.

Idk if I'm missing something but I don't see Starling going pro as a one and done. It's certainly in his future, but I don't think he's had as good of a season as Wesley. Transferring seems like the more likely scenario.

If my some miracle both guys stay, at least you have a foundation. Get a couple impact transfers, a la Cormac Ryan, maybe you stay remotely competitive and quicken the rebuild, but that's wishful thinking.

 

[Irish14]

I hope Lubin wouldn't bolt but it's entirely possible. It's still ND, the academics draw is still a factor for these guys who are "program players," not looking to bolt, but I'm sure if Lubin sees the writing on the wall he may look for a more competitive team.

Idk if I'm missing something but I don't see Starling going pro as a one and done. It's certainly in his future, but I don't think he's had as good of a season as Wesley. Transferring seems like the more likely scenario.

If my some miracle both guys stay, at least you have a foundation. Get a couple impact transfers, a la Cormac Ryan, maybe you stay remotely competitive and quicken the rebuild, but that's wishful thinking.

The only way we get remotely competitive next year is if Lubin and Starling both stay and we hire a coach that brings a few guys with him from his current program and is able to nab several guys in the portal. As it stands now, what do we have 7 guys that are able to come back next year? Add in Burton that makes 8. Hard to believe all 8 decide to come back as well.


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[Henges24]

Does Cormac still technically have one year of eligibility left? His COVID year?

He'd be 26 years old. Not advocating for him to come back but just curious.

 

[Irish14]

Does Cormac still technically have one year of eligibility left? His COVID year?

He'd be 26 years old. Not advocating for him to come back but just curious.

Yeah he could technically come back for one more year


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[Some Irish Bloke]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe he had options to play overseas and was debating doing so last year, I highly doubt he returns but who knows.

 

[RDU Irish]

CBB is such a cluster - instant turnarounds are totally doable with the portal. Insta-starter in the ACC - pretty good way to showcase yourself for anyone looking to up their visibility. Great to see the guys really rally behind Coach here.

 

[Luckylucci]

CBB is such a cluster - instant turnarounds are totally doable with the portal. Insta-starter in the ACC - pretty good way to showcase yourself for anyone looking to up their visibility. Great to see the guys really rally behind Coach here.

I would agree it makes it easier, but I'm not sure I think ND will be the easiest place to do that at. With that said, ND has done alright recently in the basketball transfer market. So, maybe a guy like Moser (just an example) could get guys that fit his system in place sooner than later.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

What's the timeline for a hire in this situation? Should we expect to hear a replacement for Brey before the end of the season or is this going to be a situation where Jack is just vetting some candidates and we'll know when the season is over (or nearly over)?

 

[Pete]

What's the timeline for a hire in this situation? Should we expect to hear a replacement for Brey before the end of the season or is this going to be a situation where Jack is just vetting some candidates and we'll know when the season is over (or nearly over)?

I would guess that it will be after March madness

 

[irishandy]

Whoever ND gets (Moser & Sweeney are my 2 picks) I think they have to re-recruit Starling and Lubin to stay at ND.

I also think they need to be aggressive in recruiting in Indiana (the Indy area in particular) and go against Purdue and IU. It may take a couple of years to win a recruiting battle.

I would hope Brey would tell Starling and Lubin to give the new head coach a chance before transferring. Starling shouldn't be a one and done.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Whoever ND gets (Moser & Sweeney are my 2 picks) I think they have to re-recruit Starling and Lubin to stay at ND.

I also think they need to be aggressive in recruiting in Indiana (the Indy area in particular) and go against Purdue and IU. It may take a couple of years to win a recruiting battle.

I would hope Brey would tell Starling and Lubin to give the new head coach a chance before transferring. Starling shouldn't be a one and done.

I'm beginning to doub that Brey is going to work very hard to get the current guys to stay considering he already told his recruiting commitments that they should look elsewhere, essentially.

I was at the game on Saturday, pretty damn inexcusable to finish the game with 3TOs in the second half, considering VT made 10 straight buckets at one point. It's pretty evident he's just mailed it in and doesn't care much anymore. 90 points in regulation, that's absurd.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I doubt Brey is telling them that they should go someplace other than ND. I do think he's giving some "fatherly advice" that it's probably in their best interest to decommit right now and reevaluate after ND hires a new coach.

 

[Irish14]

He is still leaving correct? Goodman should really clarify here. I am assuming/hoping he means coaching somewhere else in some capacity.


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[notredomer23]

He is still leaving correct? Goodman should really clarify here. I am assuming/hoping he means coaching somewhere else in some capacity.


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He definitely won't be coaching here.

This is why Swarbrick needed to have some balls and just cut Brey loose after the bad FSU loss rather than him slowly run this program into the ground.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I'm not sure where he would go based on his press conference; the main assumption would be him returning to the East Coast, but he said he's "had enough of South Bend winters" which suggests he's interested in heading south.

Not sure any major programs would be interested in him after he burned this program to the ground the past 5 seasons.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm not sure where he would go based on his press conference; the main assumption would be him returning to the East Coast, but he said he's "had enough of South Bend winters" which suggests he's interested in heading south.

Not sure any major programs would be interested in him after he burned this program to the ground the past 5 seasons.

Given he's 63, his options will probably be NBA assistant or HC at a small private D1 school. I'd be surprised if he ends up at a P5 school.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Given he's 63, his options will probably be NBA assistant or HC at a small private D1 school. I'd be surprised if he ends up at a P5 school.

Part-time Hula Dancer?

 

[anarin]

He definitely won't be coaching here.

This is why Swarbrick needed to have some balls and just cut Brey loose after the bad FSU loss rather than him slowly run this program into the ground.

There's nothing slow about it. It's in the ground right now.

 

[MacIrish75]

This is all just a weird HR version of that old game show Password where neither Swarbrick or Brey can say the word fired while talking about the ending of his coaching career at ND.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[Henges24]

Well that’s a bummer but can’t imagine he would say anything different

 

[ab2cmiller]

Well that’s a bummer but can’t imagine he would say anything different

Usually they aren’t so direct if they have interest when they they deny.