2020 ND Football Schedule Options

[Polish Leppy 22]

Everyone should’ve been nervous since the spike started in June. It’s comical that the United States is still in the situation it’s in, but that’s what happens when you choose to politicize something like this when none of our peer countries did something similar.

Short of a miraculous decrease in new cases over the next two weeks, college football won’t be played.

It's depressing to picture a fall without college football, and I want to know how Sweden got through this shitshow as well as it did without any shutdowns/ lockdowns.

 

[Valpodoc85]

I have it on good authority the Big Ten is shutting it down. Apparently are waiting for the other conferences to make decisions before the announcement

 

[Irish#1]

The MAC cancelling fall sports is an indicator of what’s to come. CFB is circling the drain right now.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I think canceling the season would be a horrible mistake you have many kids who use football and going to school as a way to get away from a bad life at home or away from drugs, crime, gangs. What’s going to happen when the season is canceled now these kids are sent home bored with nothing to do. I’d rather risk my life playing the sport I love then have to go back home with crime

 

[Rack Em]

I think canceling the season would be a horrible mistake you have many kids who use football and going to school as a way to get away from a bad life at home or away from drugs, crime, gangs. What’s going to happen when the season is canceled now these kids are sent home bored with nothing to do. I’d rather risk my life playing the sport I love then have to go back home with crime

Well....they do have school to go to. So, uh, they should probably go to class so they can stay eligible for the next season.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m crazy!

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Well....they do have school to go to. So, uh, they should probably go to class so they can stay eligible for the next season.

I don’t know. Maybe I’m crazy!

If everything is online then they shouldn’t have to be at school?!

 

[JurDocDuLac]

What’s going to happen when the season is canceled now these kids are sent home bored with nothing to do....

If everything is online then they shouldn’t have to be at school?!

Well, then they will have something to do at home...
Still be bored, tho

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Seriously, I think coaches will find some way to keep players close to campus so they can do some conditioning - NCAA will probably allow that.



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[Irish#1]

Power 5 commissioners meeting this week to discuss canceling fall sports. Like it or not better get used to no CFB. If this happens, I’ll be interested in what the NCAA does as far as eligibility.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Power 5 commissioners meeting this week to discuss canceling fall sports. Like it or not better get used to no CFB. If this happens, I’ll be interested in what the NCAA does as far as eligibility.

This might spell doom for cbb too.

 

[Irish#1]

Listening to Clay Travis this morning. He's on rant. Evidently the B1G wants to cancel, but doesn't want to do it by themselves and are trying to get the other conferences to join in. Penn St players are tweeting about wanting to play.

This is a liability issue IMO. The B1G doesn't want to be held accountable if any athlete contracts COVID and ends up dying. The trickle down effect for all the businesses/employees that count on the CFB season will be enormous.

 

[phork]

Make no mistake this is not about player safety or anything. This is about the NCAA and the ADs figuring out how to deal with the current labour strife.

 

[calvegas04]

A bunch of ND players tweeting they want to play

 

[KizerWilhelm]

A bunch of ND players tweeting they want to play

And the official ND football account retweeted them. So I’m guessing the athletic department agrees.

 

[NDdomer2]

Make no mistake this is not about player safety or anything. This is about the NCAA and the ADs figuring out how to deal with the current labour strife.

Bingo

 

[IrishLax]

Make no mistake this is not about player safety or anything. This is about the NCAA and the ADs figuring out how to deal with the current labour strife.

Yeah, it's very easy to put on the games with no increased risk to any participants. This is strictly about the tens of millions of dollars the schools will lose AND the fact that you have "unions" with insane demands in some conferences.

 

[Irishize]

Maybe we are looking at the end of college sports. There has to be some entrepreneurial folks watching all this and devising a minor league system w/ television deal.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Maybe we are looking at the end of college sports. There has to be some entrepreneurial folks watching all this and devising a minor league system w/ television deal.

That would revitalize college football for me. I hope so badly this happens.

 

[DONALDIII]

That would revitalize college football for me. I hope so badly this happens.

It wouldn't be college football then.

 

[Irishize]

I realize that there’s not a ton of examples of players like Joe Burrow who go from fringe draft pick/UDFA to 1st round pick in one season BUT the “Joe Burrows” of 2020 could never be realized (assuming they have exhausted their eligibility) when the season is canceled.

 

[stpeteirish]

I wonder if the players would sign off on a liability waiver to protect the schools? They say they want to play and schools say they are doing everything they can to make it safe.

 

[stpeteirish]

Yeah, it's very easy to put on the games with no increased risk to any participants. This is strictly about the tens of millions of dollars the schools will lose AND the fact that you have "unions" with insane demands in some conferences.

Sounds to me that, when push comes to shove, the players will play regardless of what the unions want. If the schools tell the unions to go piss up a rope a few players will opt out but the vast majority will play.

The schools are worried about players getting sick and possibly dying. The potential liability is enoramous. I wonder if the players would sign a liability waiver?

 

[NDohio]

Maybe we are looking at the end of college sports. There has to be some entrepreneurial folks watching all this and devising a minor league system w/ television deal.

That would revitalize college football for me. I hope so badly this happens.

Yes - I agree completely.

It wouldn't be college football then.

You are right, the minor league wouldn't be college football.

Not speaking for Pops, but for me that would mean that the kids that are going to school and playing football for their university are true student athletes. That is what college football is all about. I would love it.

The minor league would be for those students that "don't want to play school."

 

[IrishLax]

Sounds to me that, when push comes to shove, the players will play regardless of what the unions want. If the schools tell the unions to go piss up a rope a few players will opt out but the vast majority will play.

The schools are worried about players getting sick and possibly dying. The potential liability is enoramous. I wonder if the players would sign a liability waiver?

Again, this can't be said enough, there is no evidence whatsoever that these players will be safer not playing football. When playing, they are getting tested and monitored on a regular basis, and only interacting with cleared people (unless they choose to socialize outside of that group). That socializing is the risk, and that happens regardless of whether sports are played.

Trevor Lawrence was spot on about this stuff last night.

 

[Irishize]

It wouldn't be college football then.

And America would finally get a wake up call in realizing that very few individuals in CFB & CBB go on to earn millions as pro athletes. What happens to all the others who were using their athletic scholarship to get a four year degree? That doesn’t even address the fact that Olympic sports & the other non-revenue generating sports would be eliminated.

 

[zelezo vlk]

To y'all suggesting a waiver, I thought the NCAA just said the schools couldn't do that

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[JurDocDuLac]

Sounds to me that, when push comes to shove, the players will play regardless of what the unions want. If the schools tell the unions to go piss up a rope a few players will opt out but the vast majority will play.

The schools are worried about players getting sick and possibly dying. The potential liability is enoramous. I wonder if the players would sign a liability waiver?

Yes and yes.

Are the Conferences avoiding an improbable labor "confrontation" or avoiding very real liability issues?

The Conferences would deliberately put themselves in a much weaker bargaining position with the players, economic, legal and political, whenever they come back.

And the players, who could be easily be challenged, divided and replaced now, would have time to organize, invite real Union participation and seek legal certification, all without the internally-divisive and personally risky dynamic of having to show any unified strength now..

Or maybe, the Conferences are doing it for selfish legal liability reasons.

Either way, it is the lawyers causing all this mess.

 

[NDohio]

Interesting thread on unionization of the players:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As college football players across the U.S. have suddenly banded together in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WeWantToPlay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WeWantToPlay</a> movement, those calling for widespread unionization of the group must understand that the law governing unionization in the U.S. makes that unlikely. 1/</p>— Alicia Jessop (@RulingSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/RulingSports/status/1292776170530824192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Valpodoc85]

Make no mistake this is not about player safety or anything. This is about the NCAA and the ADs figuring out how to deal with the current labour strife.

With covid there is more than enough to cancel the season. However, there is a good deal of fear that players will organize. Authority seems to be buying time to figure it out.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Interesting thread on unionization of the players:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As college football players across the U.S. have suddenly banded together in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WeWantToPlay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WeWantToPlay</a> movement, those calling for widespread unionization of the group must understand that the law governing unionization in the U.S. makes that unlikely. 1/</p>— Alicia Jessop (@RulingSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/RulingSports/status/1292776170530824192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, the NCAA's pickle is that the USSC has said that the NCAA would be a violation of anti-trust law except there is a market for amateur sports and a regulatory body is necessary for that end.

The parties could get around this like the pro sports do by using collective bargaining (via a labor union) to agree on the rules. Except most of the institutions we're talking about are state schools and if you're dealing with state employees things get really hairy - and in some jurisdictions state employees are outright prohibited from organizing.

Any fundamental changes will need to come from Congress. College and universities do not have the powers necessary to make fundamental reforms.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

To y'all suggesting a waiver, I thought the NCAA just said the schools couldn't do that

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It's basically impossible to eliminate the possibility of coercion.

If the season gets canceled, you can thank Nick Rolovich.