2020 Elections

[Polish Leppy 22]

48 hours removed and still haven't seen any videos of MAGA people rioting and looting at Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's. Weird.

 

[GowerND11]

48 hours removed and still haven't seen any videos of MAGA people rioting and looting at Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's. Weird.

Just QAnon wanting to bomb a vote counting place in Philly...

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

That would have been a mighty map to close in on. I think the Dems cheated for sure, but likely not so much that is swung the election. I do think they cheated Sean Parnell in PA17 and John James in Michigan.

It seems the H&S conspiracy is a disinfo and obfuscation operation. Id be interested in looking at KY and SC senate races as well though to be honest.

Graham was was down by 2+points in many polls and was on FOX news begging his ass off for money the last two weeks before election. Ended up winning by double digits.

Registered Dem voters were 1.6 million this year in KY. MM's approval was 14%. Of those1.6 million Dem voters, only 750k voted for McGrath. IDK what that is about but its interesting to say the least

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

48 hours removed and still haven't seen any videos of MAGA people rioting and looting at Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's. Weird.

48 hours and only been seeing leftist celebrating in the street by dancing and singing. But Im sure this is Antifa and those Portland snowflakes doing this though:

https://thehill.com/homenews/525075-republican-philadelphia-official-responsible-for-vote-counting-says-office-getting

 

[dublinirish]

48 hours removed and still haven't seen any videos of MAGA people rioting and looting at Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's. Weird.

Nothing represents a cathedral of liberalism better than a Bass Pro Shop

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Nothing represents a cathedral of liberalism better than a Bass Pro Shop

You'd be surprised. On sunday here, its church then family outings top BPS and guns shops. Little Johnny needs some new .22 ammo before we head to supper.

 

[RDU Irish]

Trump isn't winning but I think this fight is going to be interesting.

How does Philly go against court orders and mix ballots (pre and post 8pm were to be segregated) and deny access to poll watchers? At minimum a full audit of that location is needed. Assuming they defied court orders and protocol - what recourse is there?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190
Data doesn't smell right in a ton of areas. Hundreds of thousands voting top of ballot only at much larger percentages in battlegrounds than other states. Turnout in the utopias of Milwaukee/Atlanta/Philly/Detroit are quite literally unbelievable. Not news, just extra egregious this time. Michigan and Wisconsin were caught off guard four years ago, not this time.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Nothing represents a cathedral of liberalism better than a Bass Pro Shop

You didn't pick up the sarcasm. The point is conservatives and libertarians don't do this shit. They don't destroy their own communities. They don't burn down buildings. They don't commit theft.

 

[yankeehater]

I haven’t seen videos or screenshots of it.. could you link to it?

Circa, here is a youtube video explaining what is going on during the CNN coverage. I have the screenshot, but with IE's security issues I can not upload from my phone.

The gold above on the screen is the real time feed from decision HQ that every news org uses. At the bottom is the tickets which CNN uses and updates 1 second after the HQ news feed. As you can see, the one candidate (D-KY) gains 560 votes and the (R-KY) loses the exact same amount. CNN then pulls away to a full screen of the person being interviewed at the time this is captured. Computer glitch? Or is this HAMMER or Scorecard software being employed?

There is an interview pre-election Steve Bannon conducted with the former #3 from the USAF who talks about these programs and now how they are being used to change votes in elections. What he described would happen on election night to Bannon happens exactly the way he said it would. I am guessing just as kids in schools get busted for going online changing their grades this will be traceable.

https://youtu.be/ztYDXWRLVI0

 

[TorontoGold]

Circa, here is a youtube video explaining what is going on during the CNN coverage. I have the screenshot, but with IE's security issues I can not upload from my phone.

The gold above on the screen is the real time feed from decision HQ that every news org uses. At the bottom is the tickets which CNN uses and updates 1 second after the HQ news feed. As you can see, the one candidate (D-KY) gains 560 votes and the (R-KY) loses the exact same amount. CNN then pulls away to a full screen of the person being interviewed at the time this is captured. Computer glitch? Or is this HAMMER or Scorecard software being employed?

There is an interview pre-election Steve Bannon conducted with the former #3 from the USAF who talks about these programs and now how they are being used to change votes in elections. What he described would happen on election night to Bannon happens exactly the way he said it would. I am guessing just as kids in schools get busted for going online changing their grades this will be traceable.

https://youtu.be/ztYDXWRLVI0

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hammer-scorecard-vote-counts/

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hammer-scorecard-vote-counts/

Whether there is a hammer and scorecard or not is somewhat irrelevant. The fact that votes changed an identical amount for both candidates is what one should be concerned about.

Having said that, I'm not sure the media manipulating the numbers on election day have any real effect. I certainly wouldn't change my mind on who I'm voting for if I saw CNN, Fox, etc. showing my candidate was winning or losing.

 

[TorontoGold]

Whether there is a hammer and scorecard or not is somewhat irrelevant. The fact that votes changed an identical amount for both candidates is what one should be concerned about.

Having said that, I'm not sure the media manipulating the numbers on election day have any real effect. I certainly wouldn't change my mind on who I'm voting for if I saw CNN, Fox, etc. showing my candidate was winning or losing.

My response to the post claiming there was hammer or scorecard being used. I watched/listened to CNN almost religiously the past week and there was at least 5 times i remember them inputting numbers wrong, so it may be less nefarious than some on the far right think. If the actual voting centers had huge swings then that would be of interest, but I'm not sure CNN is trying to suppress the vote in KY by changing 500 votes (almost certainly because of human error) lol.

 

[Old Man Mike]

If I was going to be put into "data-logging jail" for every time in my scholarly research life that I put a number in a wrong column then caught it and put it in the correct one (and that data would be "suspiciously" identical --- horrors!), I'd been in academic prison for several lifetimes.

... wonder what happened to the concept of getting the official documented data and working with that (rather than spending one's life reading media digests --- some done by low paid and low incentive grunts.)

 

[Irish#1]

My response to the post claiming there was hammer or scorecard being used. I watched/listened to CNN almost religiously the past week and there was at least 5 times i remember them inputting numbers wrong, so it may be less nefarious than some on the far right think. If the actual voting centers had huge swings then that would be of interest, but I'm not sure CNN is trying to suppress the vote in KY by changing 500 votes (almost certainly because of human error) lol.

If I was going to be put into "data-logging jail" for every time in my scholarly research life that I put a number in a wrong column then caught it and put it in the correct one (and that data would be "suspiciously" identical --- horrors!), I'd been in academic prison for several lifetimes.

... wonder what happened to the concept of getting the official documented data and working with that (rather than spending one's life reading media digests --- some done by low paid and low incentive grunts.)

You do have to admit though, that with the heavy media bias, they open themselves up to scrutiny when things like this happen.

 

[TorontoGold]

You do have to admit though, that with the heavy media bias, they open themselves up to scrutiny when things like this happen.

I guess, but thinking a news org is going to artificially change votes is kind of outlandish. Plenty of other criticisms are valid - Tapper calling DJT an obese turtle, Fox sending out guidance to not call Biden president elect etc.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To be crystal clear on ⬇️, I’m specifically referring to the Hammer and Scorecard nonsense. It’s just that - nonsense. This is not a real thing, don’t fall for it and think 2x before you share. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Protect2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Protect2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/f2FpSbRXKy">https://t.co/f2FpSbRXKy</a></p>— Chris Krebs #Protect2020 (@CISAKrebs) <a href="https://twitter.com/CISAKrebs/status/1325188644966117376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
H/S Disinfo Op is complete bullshit.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Of course it's true that most of us living in this garbage-dump of deliberate lies, that we in America are surrounded by, will (sadly) "naturally" have instinctive shocks whenever we see anything that seems "off." WHAT WE SHOULDN'T DO, however, is allow ourselves to be so emotionally fragile that we allow ourselves to take such stuff so seriously that we speak out or act out on the basis of every little assumed thing that will in the end prove baseless.

Baseless crap does do damage --- if we let it. Allowing small things made of crap to mound up in our minds without regularly flushing them will end by convincing us that crap is real just because of the size of the pile of it. It's hard to be a constantly on guard consciousness, sifting the sh!t honestly, rather than allow it to remain in a conscious position of influence that it does not deserve.

 

[Rogue219]

People think Dems cheated but didnt take control of the Senate????? LMFAO.

Chuck, Nancy and Soros playing 3D chess. Brilliant, if you ask me.

Not to mention, they didn't get the Texas House, either. That shit will be Gerrymandered as fuck now, but all the more shocking when Dems get all the dead cowboys voting in the next cycle to flip it.

Absolute geniuses.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Of course it's true that most of us living in this garbage-dump of deliberate lies, that we in America are surrounded by, will (sadly) "naturally" have instinctive shocks whenever we see anything that seems "off." WHAT WE SHOULDN'T DO, however, is allow ourselves to be so emotionally fragile that we allow ourselves to take such stuff so seriously that we speak out or act out on the basis of every little assumed thing that will in the end prove baseless.

Baseless crap does do damage --- if we let it. Allowing small things made of crap to mound up in our minds without regularly flushing them will end by convincing us that crap is real just because of the size of the pile of it. It's hard to be a constantly on guard consciousness, sifting the sh!t honestly, rather than allow it to remain in a conscious position of influence that it does not deserve.

IMO the fact the GOP is shamelessly promoting, enhancing, and actively engaging in spreading this nonsense and not acknowledging Biden/Harris is pathetic. The Trump admin is actively stopping Biden from performing his obligated transitional duties. To what end? The votes wont change. The states wont change. The outcome isnt going to change.

 

[Rogue219]

 

[Irish#1]

IMO the fact the GOP is shamelessly promoting, enhancing, and actively engaging in spreading this nonsense and not acknowledging Biden/Harris is pathetic. The Trump admin is actively stopping Biden from performing his obligated transitional duties. To what end? The votes wont change. The states wont change. The outcome isnt going to change.

Care to elaborate? From what I've seen Biden is moving forward full steam ahead.

 

[NorthDakota]

IMO the fact the GOP is shamelessly promoting, enhancing, and actively engaging in spreading this nonsense and not acknowledging Biden/Harris is pathetic. The Trump admin is actively stopping Biden from performing his obligated transitional duties. To what end? The votes wont change. The states wont change. The outcome isnt going to change.

Obligated duties? Mind expanding on that.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Care to elaborate? From what I've seen Biden is moving forward full steam ahead.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/donald-trump-transition-biden-block/index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-legal-options-trump-administration-keeps-stalling-transition/

Also a GSA Trump appointee will not authorize funds be issued to the Transition team as well as access to all relevant agencies as is normally done. She is ignoring Biden's requests at the behest of Trump.

There re others but all you have to do is google "Trump blocks transition"

 

[RDU Irish]

Why would he transition when the election is not yet officially decided? Maybe he is just trying to protect them from Logan Act violations?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Why would he transition when the election is not yet officially decided? Maybe he is just trying to protect them from Logan Act violations?

lol. You mean like Flynn when he was undermining Obama Admin policies in multiple countries?

Not decided? Cmon... at this point saying that is dishonest. No amount of recounts or legal strategies are going to change the outcome. N....o the man baby has no path forward and is being a punk ass bitch. All this fraud shit is exactly that. BS. Trump and the GOP are gonna make this as painful as possible which sucks for everyone.

 

[Rocket89]

Care to elaborate? From what I've seen Biden is moving forward full steam ahead.

Probably the General Services Administration not moving forward with the transition plan and not certifying the election yet.

 

[RDU Irish]

I am curious what recourse is expected for violating orders to allow meaningful access and segregate ballots received after 8pm? They aren't going to throw out 600k ballots and if you can't contest the thing before it is tabulated you are toast so there should be little debate that the damage is already done. So what is the cure? I can see Dems denying access out of pure spite - they are a vitriolic bunch but it really does look like you are trying to cheat.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I am curious what recourse is expected for violating orders to allow meaningful access and segregate ballots received after 8pm? They aren't going to throw out 600k ballots and if you can't contest the thing before it is tabulated you are toast so there should be little debate that the damage is already done. So what is the cure? I can see Dems denying access out of pure spite - they are a vitriolic bunch but it really does look like you are trying to cheat.

Who violated orders? Where? WHose orders were they? Prove this to me that is occurred. Im betting you cant becasue the Admin is 0-16 in legal challenges as of today and they have presented zero evidence of actual fraud

I think this is what is so infuriating is that this kind of disnfo is what undermines the creditability of our elections.

 

[RDU Irish]

Alito

Cack lets have an actual process discussion here rather than yell at each other about how awful the other side is. Just play along with the totally unbelievable concept and say observers are not allowed while 600k votes get processed. What recourse can be expected for this offense? I don't see how, EVEN IF TRUE, it changes anything b/c people will throw their hands up and say "what does it really matter anyway".

 

[yankeehater]

Who violated orders? Where? WHose orders were they? Prove this to me that is occurred. Im betting you cant becasue the Admin is 0-16 in legal challenges as of today and they have presented zero evidence of actual fraud

I think this is what is so infuriating is that this kind of disnfo is what undermines the creditability of our elections.

You do realize the results have already been changed in two cases in favor of Republicans since the night of the election because of vote count "errors." One in Michigan and a second now in Connecticut. The Democrats said it had nothing to do with software program Dominion, but was human error in both cases which I guess they feel should make us feel better about the vote counting process.