2018 Midterm Elections

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So I hear the young lady JA put his hands on was an ND graduate.


Didn't think I could have a lower opinion of him...still verifying that info.
 

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Kyrsten Sinema moves ahead of Martha McSally in Arizona Senate race

- About 75 percent of Arizona voters cast ballots by mail, but those ballots have to go through the signature confirmation process, and only then can be opened and tabulated. If county recorders have issues verifying signatures they are allowed to ask voters to verify their identity.

According to Garrett Archer, data analyst for the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office, 129,790 votes were counted Thursday in Maricopa County, pushing the Phoenix area past its 2010 record for most ballots cast.

Sinema’s lead in the state’s largest county jumped from just over 8,000 to more than 27,000.

The Maricopa County Recorder’s Office said it still had about 345,000 ballots left to count and would report its next batch at 5 p.m. Friday.

About 195,000 of them are early, provisional and out-of-precinct ballots that voters submitted on Election Day. The rest are early ballots that were received before the election and hadn’t yet been tabulated.

McSally’s campaign released the following statement after Thursday’s totals were announced:

“With half a million ballots left to count we remain confident that as votes continue to come in from counties across the state, Martha McSally will be elected Arizona’s next Senator.”

The counting continued while a lawsuit over Tuesday’s election was playing out.

Arizona Republicans sue county recorders over ballots

Here's how to check if your early ballot was counted in Maricopa County
 
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Totally legit.
 

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The Five: Chelsea Handler, Joy Behar Give 'Outrageous' Excuses for Lack of 'Blue Wave'
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/11/...ue-wave-behar-handler-give-outrageous-reasons

Now white women are evil according to the left..

and... LOL...I think the View should require Behar to get a little basic education on US gov....
Joy Behar was incidentally "schooled" by ABC political reporter Matthew Dowd, who corrected her assertion the Republican majority grew in the Senate because of "gerrymandering."
 

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Totally legit.

what happened to leave no vote behind?

Brenda Snipe (dem in charge in that area) was found to have illegally destroyed ballots in 2016.... shady as shit. And one of the dem attorneys that was sent down to FL has strong ties to Fusion GPS... you can't make this shit up.
 

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In Florida among the cries of voter fraud by Scott and Trump with Scott filing a lawsuit and Trump talking "disgrace" and that he has turned it over to "law enforcement", I have a question. Would Pam Bondi, who Trump is considering as Jeff Sessions' replacement, be involved until January? If she recused herself, then what? Could Michael Cohen have been involved in the Trump Corp's donation to Bondi?
 
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LOL... way to try to distract with tin foil silliness and switch focus from Brenda Snipes who has illegally destroyed ballots, illegally opening ballots, and mishandled ballots numerous times. And she replaced a dem who was fired for mismanagement and incompetence in the first place.
 

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LOL... way to try to distract with tin foil silliness and switch focus from Brenda Snipes who has illegally destroyed ballots, illegally opening ballots, and mishandled ballots numerous times. And she replaced a dem who was fired for mismanagement and incompetence in the first place.

For real.

Not to mention, nobody's going to play the long, drawn-out game of hypotheticals with you, Legacy.

Next time, just go ahead and grab that bush you keep beating around and say what you actually want to say.
 

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Link to another article about the Dodge City issue. In it, they also talk about Barton County Kansas going from 23 polling places to only 11. Some people will have to drive 18 miles to get to a polling place. Of course Barton County is 82% white and 77% voted for Donald Trump. So where is the outrage??????

https://www.kansas.com/latest-news/article220286260.html

You are not outraged that 13,000 people have one place to vote and that's outside of town?

The background, of course, is the Supreme Court decision that gutted the Voter Rights Act (VRA). One factor that led to the VRA was the work of the Civil Rights Commission chaired by Father Hesburgh that established federal oversight over voting to prevent abuses of the election process including voter suppression.

U.S. Census What's New & FAQs
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Dodge City city, Kansas
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino - 35.0, Hispanic 59.1%

Liberal, Kansas has one voting site for 10,000 people on the edge of town near the airport.
Quick Facts - 60% Hispanic, 30.6% White alone

The point being that voting is a right of all citizens which should be respected by making it easier to vote so that we are a nation that acknowledges our democratic principles. Hesburgh called voting a "civic sacrament".

Fun Facts:

Ford County (Dodge City) had a 12.6% increase in voters compared to the 2014 midterms. Out of the 105 counties in Kansas, only 14 other counties had higher percentage increases. This increase was almost double the increase for Seward Conty (Liberal, KS) which also has one polling place for 10,000 people with similar Hispanic representation.

Meanwhile Barton County which is 82% white and 77% voted for Donald Trump and had their polling places dropped from 23 to 11 saw only a 1.1% increase which was the 38th smallest out of the 105 counties.

I guess I can only conclude two things:

1. It looks like Dodge City should keep the new polling place for future elections.

2. There appears to be voter suppression, but it looks like it was in predominately white Barton County.

LOL
 
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Fun Facts:

Ford County (Dodge City) had a 12.6% increase in voters compared to the 2014 midterms. Out of the 105 counties in Kansas, only 14 other counties had higher percentage increases. This increase was almost double the increase for Seward Conty (Liberal, KS) which also has one polling place for 10,000 people with similar Hispanic representation.

Meanwhile Barton County which is 82% white and 77% voted for Donald Trump and had their polling places dropped from 23 to 11 saw only a 1.1% increase which was the 38th smallest out of the 105 counties.

I guess I can only conclude two things:

1. It looks like Dodge City should keep the new polling place for future elections.

2. There appears to be voter suppression, but it looks like it was in predominately white Barton County.

LOL

The average polling place in Kansas serves 1,200 voters. Salina with a population of 48,000+ has 35 polling places.

Consider Barton County has 27,000+ citizens and 11 polling places with four of those within their largest town, Great Bend. The county has 17,000 registered voters (average 1,500 voters per site).
Ford County (Dodge City) has 33,000+ citizens and 1 polling place for 13,000 registered voters in Dodge City itself.
Seward County (Liberal) has 22,000+ citizens and 1 polling place. Not sure on how many registered voters there are, but let's assume 7,000.

Based on the 1,200 voters in Kansas per polling site, Ford should have 10 and Seward should have 6. (or you can use the Barton county average of 1,500 if you wish)

You noted the Hispanic population in each of the counties.

Hispanic groups who had made a push to register voters did arrange for transportation to the one polling place. It's understandable that an increase in first time voters would increase voting. Barton county saw voter suppression because they did not see the same percentage increase? People are also more interested in voting if state and local issues and candidates are important to them.

Per the unofficial voting figures from the Sec of State,
Barton County had 48.4% of their registered voters vote.
Ford County had 47.0% vote.
Seward County had 36.8% vote.
 
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Consider Barton County has 27,000+ citizens and 11 polling places with four of those within their largest town, Great Bend. The county has 17,000 registered voters.
Ford County (Dodge City) has 33,000+ citizens and 1 polling place for 13,000 registered voters in Dodge City itself.
Seward County (Liberal) has 22,000+ citizens and 1 polling place.

You noted the Hispanic population in each of the counties.

The average polling place in Kansas serves 1,200 voters. Salina with a population of 48,000+ has 35 polling places. Hispanic groups who had made a push to register voters did arrange for transportation to the one polling place. It's understandable that an increase in first time voters would increase voting. Barton county saw voter suppression because they did not see the same percentage increase? People are also more interested in voting if state and local issues and candidates are important to them.

As I've stated before, I don't actually believe that the decrease in polling stations in Barton County is a negative and I don't believe that it resulted in voter suppression. I was being sarcastic.

The purpose of my facts was to continue to point out that you can't continue to see "racism" in every thing when it isn't always the case.

The switch of the polling center outside of town did not result in voter suppression. They saw higher increases in voter participation than that of Seward county which also has similar population for a single polling center.
 

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I can guarantee that when Dodge City switches the polling center back to the Civic Center for future elections, that the cries of racism will simply change to fit the situation. The polling center is now in the "white" part of town. On and on it goes.
 

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It's one thing to misplace a ballot or two, or even need a little more time. It's a whole other thing when you misplace ~80k, report that you've already counted but haven't, find ballots but refuse to say how many, and simply not allow any transparency at all.

Broward, Snipes, and Snipe's predecessor have a very long history of shady shit.

This is the Dems Hail Mary. If they won fair and square, leave the votes out...if they lost close....bring in the extras.
 

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This is the Dems Hail Mary. If they won fair and square, leave the votes out...if they lost close....bring in the extras.

CNN had an article today, saying something like "Elections just don't last one day" in defense of all the criticism.

My response... If you have the right process, do your jobs, then the full initial count should last one day 99% of the time. It's when places like AZ have processes that drive extra time, and places like Broward that have a long history of mismanagement, that you need more than 24-48 hours for the initial full count.

The lack of transparency from Snipes makes it crystal clear that she has motives outside of ensuring the process is fair and accurate. She's a carbon copy of her predecessor.
 

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Republicans were suing that all Arizona Counties should be following the same rules giving voters opportunity to correct signature issues. Of course the Democrats who always want to make sure all votes are counted, fought the demand stating that the Republicans should've sought out legal remedies before the election. At least they eventually came to an agreement.

Arizona Senate vote count settlement reached; counties given extension to cure ballots

Republicans and Democrats in Arizona came to an agreement in court Friday that gives all counties in the state until Nov. 14 to address problems with ballots, as vote tallying for the state's tight Senate race continues.

As of 7 p.m. ET Friday evening, Democratic candidate Kyrsten Sinema led Republican candidate Martha McSally by a margin of 21,185 votes statewide, according to the Arizona Secretary of State office. Sinema has received 990,177 votes and McSally has received 968,992, the office said.

In Maricopa County specifically, Sinema has received 594,444, while McSally has 556,076, the office said.

The settlement comes after Republicans filed a lawsuit Wednesday in an effort to prevent Maricopa and Pima counties – the two biggest counties in the state – from using procedures that permit mail-in ballot fixes to occur beyond Election Day, arguing that the practice was improper.

The lawsuit was filed by four local Republican parties.

FLORIDA AT CENTER OF EXPLOSIVE POST-ELECTION FIGHT, AS NEW ARIZONA SENATE TALLY GIVES EDGE TO DEM

If the signature on the voter registration doesn't match that on the sealed envelope, both Maricopa and Pima County allow voters to help them fix, or "cure" it, up to five days after Election Day.

Many other counties only allow voters to cure until polls close on Election Day.

However, now all counties may cure ballots until Wednesday.

Roughly 457,000 votes remained uncounted, the Arizona Secretary of State office reported earlier Friday. The ballots that still need to be counted were described by the office as those “mailed in or received by post office on election day” and as “’late earlies’ dropped off at the polls plus provisionals.”

“We know there's urgency out there, but we want to get it right, not quick,” Maricopa County Recorder Adrian Fontes said, according to The Associated Press.

President Trump tweeted about the Arizona election ahead of Friday’s settlement.


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The agreement would only affect a few thousand votes, the outlet reported.
 

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ALL-MAIL ELECTIONS (AKA VOTE-BY-MAIL) (National Conference of State Legislatures)

At least 22 states have provisions allowing certain elections to be conducted entirely by mail. For these elections, all registered voters receive a ballot in the mail. The voter marks the ballot, puts it in a secrecy envelope or sleeve and then into a separate mailing envelope, signs an affidavit on the exterior of the mailing envelope, and returns the package via mail or by dropping it off.

Vote by mail logoBallots are mailed out well ahead of Election Day, and thus voters have an “election period,” not just a single day, to vote. All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone. This system is also referred to as “vote by mail.”

While “all-mail elections” means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).

As of January 2017, three of the 22 states—Oregon (2000), Washington (2011) and Colorado (2013)—hold all elections entirely by mail. In California, some counties are currently permitted to conduct all-mail elections. After 2020, the option will be available to all counties in the state. Utah permits individual counties to determine if they would like to conduct all-mail election or not. In 2018, Hawaii passed house bill 1401, which authorizes a county with a population less than 100,000 to conduct a pilot program for the 2020 primary and general elections.Other states permit all-mail elections in certain circumstances, such as for special districts, municipal elections, when candidates are unopposed, or at the discretion of the county clerk. See below for state-by-state statutes.

Generally, states begin with providing all-mail elections only in certain circumstances, and then add additional opportunities as citizens become familiar with procedures. Oregon’s vote-by-mail timeline includes four times that the legislature acted prior to the 1998 citizens’ vote that made Oregon the first all-mail election state.

Possible Advantages
-Voter convenience and satisfaction—Citizens can vote at home and take all the time they need to study the issues. - Voters often express enthusiasm for all-mail elections.
-Financial savings—Jurisdictions may save money because they no longer need to staff traditional polling places with poll workers and equip each polling place with voting machines. A 2016 study of Colorado from the Pew Charitable Trusts found that costs decreased an average of 40 percent in five election administration categories across 46 of Colorado’s 64 counties (those with available cost data). However, the study examines a number of reforms that Colorado enacted in 2013, with all-mail elections being the most significant. Others included instituting same day registration and shortening the time length for residency in the state for voting purposes.
-Turnout—Some reports indicate that because of convenience, voter turnout increases. These reports assert that turnout increases by single digits for presidential elections and more in smaller elections. See this 2013 report on all-mail ballot elections in Washington and this 2018 report on all-mail ballot elections in Utah. Effects on turnout can be more pronounced for low propensity voters, those that are registered but do not vote as frequently.

Possible Disadvantages
-Tradition—The civic experience of voting with neighbors at a local school, church, or other polling place no longer exists.
-Disparate effect on some populations—Mail delivery is not uniform across the nation. Native Americans on reservations may in particular have difficulty with all-mail elections. Many do not have street addresses, and their P.O. boxes may be shared. Literacy can be an issue for some voters, as well. Election materials are often written at a college level. (Literacy can be a problem for voters at traditional polling place locations too.) One way to mitigate this is to examine how voter centers are distributed throughout counties to best serve the population.
-Security—During all-mail elections (and absentee voting), coercion by family members or others might occur.
Financial considerations—All-mail elections greatly increase printing costs for an election. Additionally, jurisdictions must have appropriate equipment to read paper ballots at a central location, and changing from electronic equipment to equipment that can scan paper ballots can be expensive.
-Slow vote counting—All-mail elections may slow down the vote counting process, especially if a state's policy is to allow ballots postmarked by Election Day to be received and counted in the days and weeks after the election.

State-by-State Statutes on All-Mail Elections
Alaska: Elections other than general, party primary or municipal (Alaska Stat.§15.20.800)

Arizona: Special districts may conduct elections by mail (Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. §16-558)

Arkansas: Primary elections in which only one candidate has filed for the position by a filing deadline and there are no other ballot issues to be submitted for consideration (Ark. Stat. Ann. §7-7-313)

California: After/on January 1, 2018, fourteen counties may conduct all-mail elections. After January 1, 2020, any county may conduct any election as an all-mail election following statutory guidelines. (Cal. Elec. Code §3017, 4005-4008). When there are 250 or fewer voters registered to vote in a precinct (Cal. Elec. Code §3005); local, special or consolidated elections that meet certain criteria (Cal. Elec. Code §4000).

Colorado: All elections (CRS §1-5-401)

Florida: Referendum elections at the county, city, school district or special district level (Fla. Stat. §101.6102) Also, governor may call for a mail ballot election after issuing an executive order declaring a state of emergency or impending emergency (see S 866, 2008)

Hawaii: Any federal, state, or county election held other than on the date of a regularly scheduled primary or general election (HRS §11-91.5). In 2018, Hawaii passed house bill 1401, which authorizes a county with a population less than 100,000 to conduct a pilot program for the 2020 primary and general elections.

Idaho: A precinct which contains no more than 125 registered electors at the last general election may be designated by the board of county commissioners a mail ballot precinct no later than April 1 in an even-numbered year (Idaho Code §34-308)

Kansas: Nonpartisan elections at which no candidate is elected, retained or recalled and which is not held on the same date as another election (KSA Stat. §25-431 et seq.)

Maryland: Special elections (Md. Election Code §9-501 et seq.)

Minnesota: Elections conducted by a municipality having fewer than 400 registered voters on June 1 of an election year and not located in a metropolitan county (Minn. Stat. §204B)

Missouri: Nonpartisan issue elections at which no candidate is elected, retained or recalled and in which all qualified voters of one political subdivision are the only voters eligible to vote (Mo. Rev. Stat. §115.652 et seq.)

Montana: Any election other than a regularly scheduled federal, state, or county election; a special federal or state election, unless authorized by the legislature; or a regularly scheduled or special election when another election in the political subdivision is taking place at the polls on the same day (MCA 13-19-101 et seq.)

Nebraska: Special ballot measure elections that meet certain criteria, held by a political subdivision (NRS §32-952)

Nevada: Whenever there were not more than 20 voters registered in a precinct for the last preceding general election (NRS §293.213)

New Jersey: A municipality with a population of 500 or fewer persons, according to the latest federal decennial census, may conduct all elections by mail (NJRS §19.62-1)

New Mexico: Any bond election, any election on the imposition of a mill levy or a property tax rate for a specified purpose or any special election at which no candidates are to be nominated for or elected to office (NMSA §1-23-1 et seq.)

North Dakota: Counties may conduct any election by mail (ND Cent. Code §16.1-11.1-01 et seq.)

Oregon: All elections (ORS §254.465)

Utah: Jurisdictions may decide to conduct elections entirely by mail (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3-302)

Washington: All elections (WRC §29A.40)

Wyoming: Counties may decide to conduct special elections entirely by mail (Wyo. Stat. 22-29-115)
 
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Ben McAdams widens lead a bit over Mia Love as Governor, Lt. Gov. rip Utah County for election foul-ups (Salt Lake Tribune)

The 4th Congressional District race between Ben McAdams and Mia Love is still too close to call even as McAdams, the Democratic challenger to the Republican congresswoman, widened his lead a bit with votes counted Thursday.

Updated data shows McAdams now leads the race by 51.77 percent to 48.23 — a 3.54 percent edge, up from 2.9 points. But relatively few votes have been counted yet and made public in Love’s GOP stronghold in Utah County, and no major update there is scheduled until Friday. So the strength of McAdams’ lead remains unknown days after the election.

Gov. Gary Herbert and Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox both lashed out at Utah County for election mess-ups that are among reasons why the race’s outcome remains in doubt.

“Any time we have a glitch on election night, Utah County seems to be the epicenter of dysfunction,” Herbert said in a prepared statement.

Cox, who by law is the state’s top election official, also tweeted, “It’s a mystery why Utah County has election issues every year but 28 other counties don’t.”

The election night lead for McAdams (although it is expected to shrink and could possibly disappear altogether when all those Utah County votes are tallied) prompted at least one national media outlet, as well as President Donald Trump, to declare Love’s defeat. Trump mocked Love during a Wednesday news conference as one of the House Republicans who lost their seats because they distanced themselves from him.

Utah County reported long lines on election night, and voters reported broken machines in some locations. Voters were still standing in line in some centers until nearly midnight, about four hours after polls officially closed.

On election night, Utah County Clerk-Auditor Bryan Thompson — who lost his own race for re-election this year — said among reasons for long lines were a high number of time-consuming Election Day voter registrations and more people than expected voting in person rather than mailing in ballots.

Also, Thompson said he found many voters were taking up to 15 minutes to cast ballots — instead of the normal two or three minutes — because of a long list of candidates and questions.

Cox tweeted that it is “strange that they had no idea there was a longer ballot this year,” and didn’t have more machines or voting locations. He punctuated this with the emoji of a man shrugging.

Scott Hogensen, chief deputy clerk auditor, said Utah County is actually following a schedule suggested by Cox’s office to all counties not to update initial election night totals until Friday, and then again next Tuesday.

Salt Lake County Clerk Sherrie Swensen said despite that recommendation, she chose — with permission from the Lieutenant Governor’s Office — to give daily updates because of high interest in close races, and because state law allows that. Her county is the only one to issue the early updates.

So far in the 4th District portion of Utah County, only 14,596 votes have been counted and reported — and Love won 74 percent of them. The county reported that 89,000 ballots have yet to be counted (but it is unknown how many of those are in the 4th District).

With such big GOP margins in Utah County, Love could have been hurt if voters got tired of standing in line and went home. On election night, she publicly thanked those who were remaining in line at late hours.

The 4th District contains portions of four counties. McAdams is winning Salt Lake County by 18,050 votes. But he was losing Utah County by 7,030 votes; Juab County by 1,627; and Sanpete County by 2,265.

About 85 percent of the district’s voters live in Salt Lake County, and 11 percent live in Utah County.

“The voting public deserves better,” the governor, a Utah County resident and former county commissioner, said about its election problems.

“Year after year, we see lots of complaints and long lines coming out of Utah County. It shows a lack of leadership, a lack of understanding and a lack of competence on the part of the county.”

Herbert added, “I hope they can finally figure this out and I hope we don’t have this problem two years from now.”

Thompson, the longtime clerk-auditor, is a lame duck after being defeated at the GOP county convention earlier this year. His office did not immediately respond to the governor’s criticism, and it said Thompson was out of the office after having surgery on Wednesday.

The clerk auditor-elect, Amelia Powers, who vowed to improve elections in her campaign, said she raised red flags last week — as she said several cities and the lieutenant governor’s office also did — worrying that long lines would be likely and the county could not handle them.

She said the county deployed all the machines it had, and hired as many Election Day workers as it did during the presidential election two years ago. “I think it’s more a problem that they don’t have the resources they need, and that may be the root of their problems.” She said she will study what happened to help fix it.

Meanwhile, County Commissioner Bill Lee said he feels the commission has provided sufficient funding for elections — and said it gave Thompson “over and above the amounts [requested] in the budget to run the election.”

Utah County has had numerous election-related botches through the years, including:

• This year, the lieutenant governor’s office discovered that Utah County clerks had failed to count signatures in 105 petition packets for the Count My Vote initiative (which barely failed to qualify for the ballot). It returned them with instructions to speedily count them.

• In a special election primary last year to replace Rep. Jason Chaffetz, Utah County sent the wrong mail-in ballots to 68,000 voters. Those had to be weeded out before the primary votes were tallied.

• In 2010, nine voting machines were left unsecured in the lobby of a polling place. They are supposed to be under lock and key to prevent tampering.

• In 2009, the clerk’s office told state Rep. Craig Frank that a home he was building in Cedar hills was inside the House district he was representing at the time. But it had the wrong map, and Frank had to resign from the Legislature because he lived outside the district.

• In 2008, widespread confusion resulted when the clerk’s office consolidated polling locations but did not adequately notify voters. It demoted its elections director because of those problems.

• In 2004, about one of every five votes cast were not included in initial election night tallies because of a programming glitch by clerks that did not count straight-party ballots. A recount the next day included the 33,000 missing votes.

Besides such problems, Utah County regularly has taken far longer than most counties to report its vote totals.

Anna Lehnardt, Herbert’s press secretary, said the governor has been concerned about the voting problems in Utah County for years, but issued his statement now because of news media requests for comment.
 

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I posted on the NM and Utah District races as well as the Arizona Sentate race to illustrate that the process may take longer than we want. Arizona had hundreds of thousands of votes left to be counted. The NM race was flipped with the thousands of votes left to be counted. Utahans are satisfied with counting all the votes whatever the outcome. I posted the voting processes each state chooses to follow. Look those up and the remaining House races yet to be decided before you politicize everything.
 

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This is why Voter ID is so important. Election security is no joke and these buckets of mysterious democrat ballots in the closet should be investigated Mueller style.
 

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I posted on the NM and Utah District races as well as the Arizona Sentate race to illustrate that the process may take longer than we want. Arizona had hundreds of thousands of votes left to be counted. The NM race was flipped with the thousands of votes left to be counted. Utahans are satisfied with counting all the votes whatever the outcome. I posted the voting processes each state chooses to follow. Look those up and the remaining House races yet to be decided before you politicize everything.

no matter how hard your try, or how many links you post about other cities, states, etc..... you can't deny, distract, or minimize the shit show in FL, or their incredibly sketchy past. to say "we" are politicizing it is silly.

the veil of righteousness you weave is rooted in your political views, ignoring any fact or data out there that counter your narrative. both sides do the same shit. making believe it's all "innocent and righteous" when your side pulls this crap is why folks don't take you serious.
 

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Yes. Applying the law equally to everyone, regardless of race is so racist.

Names on ballots. ID verified. Democrats are so damn shady.

equal application of law and expectations isn't fair.
continuing to convince people that they are incapable of being equal is the dem way.
#StayAVictim
 
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