2016 Presidential Horse Race

[wizards8507]

Speaking of the loudest and most objectionable voices...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm an American journalist. I majored in US politics. I was a White House intern, a CNN producer.<br><br>This is what Trump voters think of me. <a href="https://t.co/nsEeeBeWss">pic.twitter.com/nsEeeBeWss</a></p>— Wilfred Chan (@wilfredchan) <a href="https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/796657824625553408">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Did you READ the post they were responding to? They guy is a bigot and made a bigoted post, so the bigots on the other side responded in kind.

 

[Cackalacky]

Buzzfeed produced this list of possible cabinet appointments. Not sure about its legitimacy:

President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team has put together a who’s who shortlist of Trump surrogates and advisers to take top positions in his administration next year, ranging from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani for attorney general to 39-year-old Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr. to be the secretary of defense.

The list of 41 names, obtained by BuzzFeed News, covers 13 departments, the attorney general, Office of Management and Budget, White House chief of staff, and White House counsel.

A source familiar with the list stressed it was not final, and it is unclear whether transition officials have narrowed it down or added more potential candidates for consideration by Trump.

In a handful of instances there is only one candidate listed — Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus is the only name listed for chief of staff, EEOC Commissioner Victoria Lipnic is listed for secretary of labor, Rep. Jeff Miller as veterans affairs administrator, Sen. Jeff Sessions as director of the Office of Management and Budget, and Donald McGahn, who has served as counsel to Trump’s campaign, to be White House counsel.

In some cases, it appears the transition team is looking to find a home for a particularly loyal ally — Ben Carson, for instance, is listed as a potential candidate to be the secretary of education and secretary of health and human services, while Sen. Jeff Sessions is listed as a possible attorney general, head of the Office of Management and Budget, or secretary of defense.

Likewise, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who is heading up the transition team, has his chips spread across the board, listed as a candidate for AG, commerce secretary, and homeland security secretary. Christie may face unusual scrutiny after the guilty verdicts handed down to two of his former advisers in the trial over the George Washington Bridge lane closures.

Although political appointments, cabinet-level positions typically require some level of expertise in the issues they cover. Most of the candidates either have at least nominal experience in their issue areas — for instance, Sessions is a former judge who has also served on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Still, some seem clearly designed to create buzz — like the possible nomination of Sarah Palin to head the Department of the Interior.

List of Potential Trump Cabinet Nominees:

Attorney General:

Gov. Chris Christie

Attorney General Pam Bondi

Sen. Jeff Sessions

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani

Secretary of Commerce:

Christie

Former Nucor CEO Dan DiMicco

Businessman Lew Eisenberg

Former Gov. Mike Huckabee

Sen. David Perdue

Former Sen. Jim Talent

Agriculture Secretary:

Gov. Sam Brownback

National Council of Farmer Cooperatives CEO Chuck Conner

Gov. Dave Heineman

Texas Agricultural Commissioner Sid Miller

Former Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue

Secretary of Education:

Ben Carson

Hoover Institution fellow William Evers

Secretary of Energy:

Venture Capitalist Robert Grady

Businessman Harold Hamm

Secretary of Health and Human Services:

Former New Jersey state Sen. Rich Bagger

Ben Carson

Newt Gingrich

Gov. Rick Scott

Secretary of Homeland Security:

Christie

Sheriff David Clarke

Secretary of the Interior:

Gov. Jan Brewer

Gov. Mary Fallin

Grady

Hamm

Oil Executive Forrest Lucas

Rep. Cynthia Lummis

Former Gov. Sarah Palin

Secretary of Defense:

Former Gen. Mike Flynn

Stephen Hadley

Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr.

Sessions

Former Sen. Jim Talent

Secretary of State:

John Bolton

Sen. Bob Corker

Gingrich

Treasury Secretary:

Rep. Jeb Hensarling

Businessman Carl Icahn

Banker Steven Mnuchin

Chief of Staff:

Reince Priebus

Director of Office of Management and Budget:

Sessions

Secretary of Labor:

EEOC Commissioner Victoria Lipnic

Veterans Affairs:

Rep. Jeff Miller

White House Counsel:

Donald McGahn

 

[wizards8507]

What the hell is going on? Look at all this shit

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

Shaun King is the David Duke of the left. These are LIES. Notice how they all start with "I heard from my cousin's friend's mom..."

Seriously, "KKK 4 LYFE"? Give me a fucking break.

 

[ulukinatme]

Speaking of the loudest and most objectionable voices...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm an American journalist. I majored in US politics. I was a White House intern, a CNN producer.<br><br>This is what Trump voters think of me. <a href="https://t.co/nsEeeBeWss">pic.twitter.com/nsEeeBeWss</a></p>— Wilfred Chan (@wilfredchan) <a href="https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/796657824625553408">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Did you READ the post they were responding to? They guy is a bigot and made a bigoted post, so the bigots on the other side responded in kind.

"This is the map if only people of color voted.
White folks, sincerely, you have work to do."

 

[wizards8507]

"This is the map if only people of color voted.
White folks, sincerely, you have work to do."

Anyone who says "people of color" instantly loses all credibility. Seriously, when did that start? Is there anything more racist than segmenting an entire cohort based on skin pigmentation? Races and nationalities that have nothing to do with one another.

 

[wizards8507]

That's a journalist for the Guardian. Not some troll high school student.

 

[IrishBroker]

That's a journalist for the Guardian. Not some troll high school student.

Wow. If she's not fired....

 

[ulukinatme]

Anyone who says "people of color" instantly loses all credibility. Seriously, when did that start? Is there anything more racist than segmenting an entire cohort based on skin pigmentation? Races and nationalities that have nothing to do with one another.

I agree. I also think the guy troll baited Twitter, that was probably his plan all along.

That's a journalist for the Guardian. Not some troll high school student.

I feel for Obama and his family if so...just a few months left on the job and a possible assassination attempt!

 

[NDinL.A.]

Shaun King is the David Duke of the left. These are LIES. Notice how they all start with "I heard from my cousin's friend's mom..."

Seriously, "KKK 4 LYFE"? Give me a fucking break.

Dude, I work with elementary and high schools all over the country. It's literally my job. I've talked to principals and teachers from blue and red states, and the problems are real. Bullying is way up the past two days, and it's directed at Latinos the most (in the cases I deal with). This shit is absolutely real. Had two teachers tell me, "The new President can do it, why can't I?"

This isn't a left/right thing. Trump won, I've dealt with it. But kids are the ones suffering. And it is fucking heart-breaking. They don't deserve to be told they are going to be deported tomorrow because of the color of the skin or the sound of their last name. They don't deserve to be told "Build a wall! Build a wall" as they eat lunch or as they walk the halls. This isn't "Give me your lunch money" shit, this is shit that will make you feel smaller than small (and enraged) because of something you can't control.

This isn't about me being "soft". Fuck anyone who thinks that. This is about voting in a man who peddled this shit for over a year and a half, and now it's coming home to roost. I dealt with that shit in Orange County when i was the only brown face in a sea of white faces, and it fucks with you. The kids don't deserve it. I'll leave it at that.

 

[NorthDakota]

What the hell is going on? Look at all this shit

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

Stupid people do stupid stuff. Like beating a man and stealing his car...and putting the video on the Internet...because he voted for The Don.

I haven't seen anything really bad around here...other than the liberals getting all mad on Facebook

 

[IrishLax]

What the hell is going on? Look at all this shit

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

I mean, not to be a skeptical dick, but in not one of those examples (besides maybe the school chanting one) is there any proof of a Trump supporter doing/saying any of that. Even the "graffiti"... someone going to deface a car, and they use washable car markers? Ummm... sure... Others are self-defeating like the person claiming a "Trump hate crime" for being robbed then listing one of the assailants as Hispanic.

If I go post on Twitter right now "oh my god someone walked up to my Latino cousin at the country club he works at and said 'get lost wet back' #Trumpsamerica" that wouldn't make it true.

Not a coincidence almost all of those moments link to perennial liar and race hustler Shaun King who only makes money if people are at each other's throats.

The ONLY video of a an ACTUAL HATE CRIME IN PROGRESS in that list is the group of black people beating and robbing the white Trump voter for voting for Trump.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead">@shoe0nhead</a> But things that HAVE happened because this poor old man voted for trump :~) <a href="https://t.co/kQH4OtwL3y">pic.twitter.com/kQH4OtwL3y</a></p>— codi (@kmscodi) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmscodi/status/796554667748716545">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is an actual hate crime. A real, true hate crime. And they're laughing about it while... and then go home and complain about "hate" and "racism" of Trump supporters. Fucking hypocrites.

So to count, reading that entire link.... there's a bunch of unverifiable fantastic stories... and the only video of a hate crime for us to watch. And it's by Hillary supporters.

I'm not saying that it isn't happening, it probably is. I've had some guys I work with tell me about some shit. I'm just saying that link is questionable. I hope it gets better before it gets worse.

 

[GATTACA!]

This is kind of a selective hearing problem though- and it goes both ways (like you point out). No way you can control everything your base does- and to be honest, I bet half of the people out in the streets last night didn't even fracking vote because they were butt hurt about Bernie.

Each side hears the loudest voices and the most objectionable ones from across the aisle.

Also because they didn't have to vote. Where are all these protests? Portland LA NY places that wouldn't turn red in a million years. They're all insulated by 80% of the people living around them that create a liberal echo chamber.

 

[GATTACA!]

I mean, not to be a skeptical dick, but in not one of those examples (besides maybe the school chanting one) is there any proof of a Trump supporter doing/saying any of that. Even the "graffiti"... someone going to deface a car, and they use washable car markers? Ummm... sure... Others are self-defeating like the person claiming a "Trump hate crime" for being robbed then listing one of the assailants as Hispanic.

If I go post on Twitter right now "oh my god someone walked up to my Latino cousin at the country club he works at and said 'get lost wet back' #Trumpsamerica" that wouldn't make it true.

Not a coincidence almost all of those moments link to perennial liar and race hustler Shaun King who only makes money if people are at each other's throats.

The ONLY video of a an ACTUAL HATE CRIME IN PROGRESS in that list is the group of black people beating and robbing the white Trump voter for voting for Trump.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead">@shoe0nhead</a> But things that HAVE happened because this poor old man voted for trump :~) <a href="https://t.co/kQH4OtwL3y">pic.twitter.com/kQH4OtwL3y</a></p>— codi (@kmscodi) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmscodi/status/796554667748716545">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is an actual hate crime. A real, true hate crime. And they're laughing about it while... and then go home and complain about "hate" and "racism" of Trump supporters. Fucking hypocrites.

So to count, reading that entire link.... there's a bunch of unverifiable fantastic stories... and the only video of a hate crime for us to watch. And it's by Hillary supporters.

I'm not saying that it isn't happening, it probably is. I've had some guys I work with tell me about some shit. I'm just saying that link is questionable. I hope it gets better before it gets worse.

Yes the same fucking people that have the balls to wake up this morning bitching and complaining about how they no longer feel safe living in America. They're so deep in their own sense of victimhood that they don't see the hypocrisy of their actions.

 

[wizards8507]

Dude, I work with elementary and high schools all over the country. It's literally my job. I've talked to principals and teachers from blue and red states, and the problems are real. Bullying is way up the past two days, and it's directed at Latinos the most (in the cases I deal with). This shit is absolutely real. Had two teachers tell me, "The new President can do it, why can't I?"

This isn't a left/right thing. Trump won, I've dealt with it. But kids are the ones suffering. And it is fucking heart-breaking. They don't deserve to be told they are going to be deported tomorrow because of the color of the skin or the sound of their last name. They don't deserve to be told "Build a wall! Build a wall" as they eat lunch or as they walk the halls. This isn't "Give me your lunch money" shit, this is shit that will make you feel smaller than small (and enraged) because of something you can't control.

This isn't about me being "soft". Fuck anyone who thinks that. This is about voting in a man who peddled this shit for over a year and a half, and now it's coming home to roost. I dealt with that shit in Orange County when i was the only brown face in a sea of white faces, and it fucks with you. The kids don't deserve it. I'll leave it at that.

Reps, I shouldn't have generalized. I believe that some of these things are happening. But I also know that Shaun King is a liar and cannot be trusted to report on them fairly. The only actual confirmed acts of violence I've seen since the election have been on the left.

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[fightingirish26]

Dude, I work with elementary and high schools all over the country. It's literally my job. I've talked to principals and teachers from blue and red states, and the problems are real. Bullying is way up the past two days, and it's directed at Latinos the most (in the cases I deal with). This shit is absolutely real. Had two teachers tell me, "The new President can do it, why can't I?"

This isn't a left/right thing. Trump won, I've dealt with it. But kids are the ones suffering. And it is fucking heart-breaking. They don't deserve to be told they are going to be deported tomorrow because of the color of the skin or the sound of their last name. They don't deserve to be told "Build a wall! Build a wall" as they eat lunch or as they walk the halls. This isn't "Give me your lunch money" shit, this is shit that will make you feel smaller than small (and enraged) because of something you can't control.

This isn't about me being "soft". Fuck anyone who thinks that. This is about voting in a man who peddled this shit for over a year and a half, and now it's coming home to roost. I dealt with that shit in Orange County when i was the only brown face in a sea of white faces, and it fucks with you. The kids don't deserve it. I'll leave it at that.

Investigation Launched After Council Rock High School North Post-Election Incidents - NewtownPANow.com

This shit happened at Council Rock High School North, I graduated from South less than two years ago. We have been getting emails from our superintendent about this. It's disheartening.

 

[kmoose]

Everyone here is smart enough to know when someone is referring to white racists or racists in general based on the context of a post. When I said 100% of racists voted for Trump, everyone knows exactly what I'm saying.

Really? About one half of this board thinks that Trump said that all Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers....

 

[GATTACA!]

Dude, I work with elementary and high schools all over the country. It's literally my job. I've talked to principals and teachers from blue and red states, and the problems are real. Bullying is way up the past two days, and it's directed at Latinos the most (in the cases I deal with). This shit is absolutely real. Had two teachers tell me, "The new President can do it, why can't I?"

This isn't a left/right thing. Trump won, I've dealt with it. But kids are the ones suffering. And it is fucking heart-breaking. They don't deserve to be told they are going to be deported tomorrow because of the color of the skin or the sound of their last name. They don't deserve to be told "Build a wall! Build a wall" as they eat lunch or as they walk the halls. This isn't "Give me your lunch money" shit, this is shit that will make you feel smaller than small (and enraged) because of something you can't control.

This isn't about me being "soft". Fuck anyone who thinks that. This is about voting in a man who peddled this shit for over a year and a half, and now it's coming home to roost. I dealt with that shit in Orange County when i was the only brown face in a sea of white faces, and it fucks with you. The kids don't deserve it. I'll leave it at that.

Maybe the media shares some of the blame? They constantly misrepresented what Trump actually said. Every single one of us knows he was talking exclusively about illegal immigrants. He was talking about deporting those that came here ILLEGALLY. Instead the media turned it into this narrative about how Trump is some big bad xenophobe for simply wanting to enforce laws that already exist. Calling someone a racist over and over again is like calling someone a rapist, regardless of whether it's true or not public perception is set.

 

[CrownRoyal]

And What

And What

What did Obama and Hilary peddle for 8 years?
Where were you with your tough guy approach because you don't like a comment someone states.
So self righteous.
We can all tell stories, nothing every stays on topic when a post like the voter gets attached, we turn it because its the other persons fault.
We are all responsible for our actions, period!

 

[Bluto]

Dude, I work with elementary and high schools all over the country. It's literally my job. I've talked to principals and teachers from blue and red states, and the problems are real. Bullying is way up the past two days, and it's directed at Latinos the most (in the cases I deal with). This shit is absolutely real. Had two teachers tell me, "The new President can do it, why can't I?"

This isn't a left/right thing. Trump won, I've dealt with it. But kids are the ones suffering. And it is fucking heart-breaking. They don't deserve to be told they are going to be deported tomorrow because of the color of the skin or the sound of their last name. They don't deserve to be told "Build a wall! Build a wall" as they eat lunch or as they walk the halls. This isn't "Give me your lunch money" shit, this is shit that will make you feel smaller than small (and enraged) because of something you can't control.

This isn't about me being "soft". Fuck anyone who thinks that. This is about voting in a man who peddled this shit for over a year and a half, and now it's coming home to roost. I dealt with that shit in Orange County when i was the only brown face in a sea of white faces, and it fucks with you. The kids don't deserve it. I'll leave it at that.

This post sucked to read and stirred up a bunch of emotions in myself. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Bluto]

Maybe the media shares some of the blame? They constantly misrepresented what Trump actually said. Every single one of us knows he was talking exclusively about illegal immigrants. He was talking about deporting those that came here ILLEGALLY. Instead the media turned it into this narrative about how Trump is some big bad xenophobe for simply wanting to enforce laws that already exist. Calling someone a racist over and over again is like calling someone a rapist, regardless of whether it's true or not public perception is set.

Did you follow what went down in Arizona when Joe Arpio was running wild? I agree the media deserves some of the blame. Have you ever listened to the lunatics on right wing AM radio?

 

[wizards8507]

Did you follow what went down in Arizona when Joe Arpio was running wild? I agree the media deserves some of the blame. Have you ever listened to the lunatics on right wing AM radio?

When has Rush ever advocated for racism or violence? Name one time.

 

[kmoose]

When has Rush ever advocated for racism or violence? Name one time.

Well, this one time, at Band Camp.............

 

[NDgradstudent]

Did you follow what went down in Arizona when Joe Arpio was running wild? I agree the media deserves some of the blame. Have you ever listened to the lunatics on right wing AM radio?

Heaven forbid our laws be enforced.

 

[wizards8507]

A California referendum to secede might actually pass. That would be the best thing to happen to this country since reconstruction.

 

[johnnycando]

Meanwhile, Michigan still tallies their votes.

Incompetent ass state can't admit.

 

[loomis41973]

A California referendum to secede might actually pass. That would be the best thing to happen to this country since reconstruction.

It will never pass but would be a FANTASTIC thing.

 

[loomis41973]

Meanwhile, Michigan still tallies their votes.

Incompetent ass state can't admit.

Meanwhile...they don't matter.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Meanwhile, Michigan still tallies their votes.

Incompetent ass state can't admit.

Most counties call in their results; Wayne gets the call saying how many votes are needed. It turns out Clinton did better than expected with black voters! Wow!

 

[NDgradstudent]

Dude, I work with elementary and high schools all over the country. It's literally my job. I've talked to principals and teachers from blue and red states, and the problems are real. Bullying is way up the past two days, and it's directed at Latinos the most (in the cases I deal with). This shit is absolutely real. Had two teachers tell me, "The new President can do it, why can't I?"

This isn't a left/right thing. Trump won, I've dealt with it. But kids are the ones suffering. And it is fucking heart-breaking. They don't deserve to be told they are going to be deported tomorrow because of the color of the skin or the sound of their last name. They don't deserve to be told "Build a wall! Build a wall" as they eat lunch or as they walk the halls. This isn't "Give me your lunch money" shit, this is shit that will make you feel smaller than small (and enraged) because of something you can't control.

This isn't about me being "soft". Fuck anyone who thinks that. This is about voting in a man who peddled this shit for over a year and a half, and now it's coming home to roost. I dealt with that shit in Orange County when i was the only brown face in a sea of white faces, and it fucks with you. The kids don't deserve it. I'll leave it at that.

Well, the 30% of Hispanic kids with parents that voted for Trump should say so.

 

[loomis41973]

Funny i was banned for a bit, early in the game for supporting and arguing for Trump by an anti Trumpist. This site may want to revisit who they make mods and how they can ban people.

Seems there are one or two here who like to silence people with differing opinions than theirs.