2016 Presidential Horse Race

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Did you see the "press release" his camp sent out? It's a joke

It was a joke, but so was the statement Fox made when he was considering skipping the debate. I'm not sure it is a good idea for him to actually skip it (although seemingly everything he says/does has ended up working out for him the past few months), but I can see why he felt like he was not going to be getting treated fairly at the debate. He obviously expects attacks from his opponents, but it's another thing to expect them from the moderators and the network running the debate. I can see why a front-runner who has little to gain and tons to lose would be concerned about walking into a buzzsaw.
 

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This is why I like Caucuses in the early states - when faced with splitting representatives from an area you have to horse trade which hurts someone like Trump. If you guy doesn't have enough and obviously isn't getting it, you go with your next favorite one who needs one more person to pick a up a mark.

Trump dumping on Cruz yesterday was classic - just flatly "nobody likes him" and what good can he do if he can't get along enough to broker a deal. Trump can get credibility on the "deal maker" angle but damn if he isn't just blowing as much hot air as possible to get the lowest common denominator amped up to hit the primaries.

That or his ego is completely out of control and he really thinks Megyn Kelly is on par with Rosie O'Donnell. It is just such feigned indignation from the Mr. Anti-PC that it wreaks of a ploy.
 

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REALLY bad move on Trump's part. How long do you think it will take before someone starts running ads questioning if Trump will bail out of talks with world leaders that he thinks are being "unfair"?

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Some of the scuttlebutt indicates that this is more about Roger Ailes than Megyn Kelly. The theory is that Trump is showing his distaste for dealing with underlings and will now only work with Rupert Murdoch.
 

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Deal with me or there is essentially no debate = power play. Same with world leaders - don't waste my f-ing time. Come to deal or else I have better shit to do. I don't see how that is a bad US policy versus pandering.
 

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Some of the scuttlebutt indicates that this is more about Roger Ailes than Megyn Kelly. The theory is that Trump is showing his distaste for dealing with underlings and will now only work with Rupert Murdoch.

Again............ this would be a REALLY bad move on his part. According to that logic, he would then show his distaste for dealing with Ambassadors, preferring to only deal with Presidents/Premiers/Prime Ministers/Kings? If his Republican rivals, or the Democrats, had even an inkling of a clue, they would exploit the hell out of this.
 

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Again............ this would be a REALLY bad move on his part. According to that logic, he would then show his distaste for dealing with Ambassadors, preferring to only deal with Presidents/Premiers/Prime Ministers/Kings? If his Republican rivals, or the Democrats, had even an inkling of a clue, they would exploit the hell out of this.
Hey I agree with you. But every stupid thing Trump does somehow wins him more support. GOP primary voters hate liberals, the media, and the GOP establishment. So when Trump does something that liberals, the media, and the GOP establishment criticize him for, they assume it must be a good thing he did because it pissed off the people they hate. The legitimacy of the criticism is lost on them.

"It is the true believer's ability to shut his eyes and stop his ears to facts that do not deserve to be either seen or heard which is the source of his unequaled fortitude and constancy. He cannot be frightened by danger nor disheartened by obstacle nor baffled by contradictions because he denies their existence."
-Eric Hoffer, speaking on fanaticism in 1951
 

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GOP primary voters hate liberals, the media, and the GOP establishment. So when Trump does something that liberals, the media, and the GOP establishment criticize him for, they assume it must be a good thing he did because it pissed off the people they hate. The legitimacy of the criticism is lost on them.

I don't hate liberals. I think they are incapable of taking a pragmatic view of the world around them, while many conservatives are perfectly capable of taking a compassionate view. And I think liberals are not happy with help, they insist on the government completely bailing people/institutions out.

I don't hate the media either. I do abhor career politicians who are capable of looking out only for their own asses.

But Trump, or any other outsider candidate, is NOT above reproach. As it stands now, I wouldn't vote for him. And that sucks, because I would like to see him make a good showing, to encourage other outsiders to serious consider a run in the next election. Maybe we can eventually find one that will do a good job and turn the political system upside down.
 

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I don't hate liberals. I think they are incapable of taking a pragmatic view of the world around them, while many conservatives are perfectly capable of taking a compassionate view. And I think liberals are not happy with help, they insist on the government completely bailing people/institutions out.

I don't hate the media either. I do abhor career politicians who are capable of looking out only for their own asses.

But Trump, or any other outsider candidate, is NOT above reproach. As it stands now, I wouldn't vote for him. And that sucks, because I would like to see him make a good showing, to encourage other outsiders to serious consider a run in the next election. Maybe we can eventually find one that will do a good job and turn the political system upside down.
I should have qualified my statement and said "GOP primary voters... who are inclined to support Trump."
 

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The most infuriated by in this election cycle is the DNC and the political machine kowtowing to Hillary Clinton early in the process. It has deprived of a lot of good candidates on that side of the aisle. Sanders is in because he doesn't fear the establishment, and they also didn't fear him at first. O'Malley is a joke... dude was so bad in Maryland that they actually elected a Republican.

The Republicans let in too many crazies, and the Democrats keep out too many solid candidates. Just sad.
 

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Ted Cruz is making a very strong strategic voting argument in Iowa. Anyone who supports Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, or anyone else needs to vote for Cruz to stop the Trump machine. If Cruz and Trump split Iowa and New Hampshire, then the race continues. If Trump wins both, the race is over and all of those other candidates are toast.

Yes sir.
 

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The Week's Michael Brendan Dougherty has recently published three excellent articles on Trump and his supporters which might be interest to some here. The first is titled "The conservative movement has become the GOP establishment. Now what?"

You could call it a freak out on the right.

National Review, the flagship journal of the conservative movement, published a surprisingly defensive symposium, asserting the continued relevance of conservative ideas against an election-year populist challenger, who promised to fight for American jobs and sovereignty. "The old guard threw everything they had at him, and their diminished power is now exposed," wrote David Brooks. This crude challenger to the party's status quo had to be stopped.

That was eight years ago. And it was Mike Huckabee, whose advisor Ed Rollins declared the Reagan coalition dead. The challenge was sufficiently contained, then. But it was the first time that I noticed that the anti-establishment kick reflex that the conservative movement had installed in its Frankenstein-coalition of voters had turned around and began kicking them.

Donald Trump and his coalition of voters kick a lot harder than Mike Huckabee. And so we have another symposium, now exclusively anti-Trump. But this time around, even movement-bred stalwarts are wondering if Ed Rollins had a point. Maybe the coalition is dead.

There's something faintly comical about everyone in the Republican party shouting, "I'm not the establishment. That guy is." The conservative movement long ago defeated the East Coast establishment of the party. It was a total rout; the last semi-moderate New England Republicans were defeated a decade ago. And yet, conservatives still insist that they are fighting some powerful establishment within the Republican Party.

Conservative institutions — their publications, think-tanks, and policy shops — are firmly embedded within the larger political class. The victory has been so-well established for so long that the literal children of the previous establishment will not stick up for it. George W. Bush ran as a conservative. Jeb Bush has ideologically been more enthusiastic for conservatism than his brother.

But there is a class of voters to whom this movement doesn't speak often enough. They are the ones that populist Pat Buchanan called "conservatives of the heart," in his 1992 Republican Convention speech. After telling the story of men working at the James River Paper Mill in northern New Hampshire, pleading with him to save their jobs, Buchanan described them this way:

My friends even in tough times, these people are with us. They don't read Adam Smith or Edmund Burke, but they came from the same schoolyards and playgrounds and towns as we did. They share our beliefs and convictions, our hopes and our dreams. They are the conservatives of the heart.

They are our people. And we need to reconnect with them. We need to let them know we know they're hurting. They don't expect miracles, but they need to know we care. [Voices of Democracy]

For a quarter century, the conservative movement has done everything to say they manifestly do not care about the economic problems of these people. The movement bombards them with direct mail pitches, celebrates the "creative destruction" of their livelihoods wrought by globalization, and then says, "Let them eat talk radio shows."

If anyone within the large tent of the Republican Party qualifies as an establishment today, it is precisely the several-generations-old institutions of the conservative movement. What else would you call a group of well-funded salons whose conversations constantly return to the candidacies of Ronald Reagan (36 years ago) or Barry Goldwater (52 years ago)? It would be odd to search history and find Franklin Roosevelt's brain trust looking for answers to the Great Depression by obsessing over Grover Cleveland's legacy. The movement should not be shocked to be on the end of anti-elitist attacks.

The Republican Party, particularly in its pure Paul Ryan form, has lost all connection to the economic interests of many Republican voters.

They've been warned of this reality consistently, from all sides of the political spectrum, for a quarter century. First it was the Buchananite populists and paleo-conservatives. Left-leaning writers like Thomas Frank saw it. So too did the socially-conservative Sam's Club Republicans, the Reformocons, and neoconservatives like David Frum. Yet in 2012, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan ran as if it were still the 1930s and the GOP was the party of Taft and Midwestern middle-class business owners. In reality, it's a party that needs the support of wage-earners to win elections, the people whom the analyst Sam Francis said descended from the "affluent proletariat" of post-World War II workers.

Putting a new Republican coalition together will not be easy. Trump's coalition of supporters includes this endangered proletariat, the radical center. It also has an enthusiastic cheering section among the radical "alt-right." That creates a difficult field of crossfire. When permanent members of the political class turn their fire on the easier targets of the alt-right, as when Rick Wilson called them trolls and "single men who masturbate to anime," it's very likely heard as an elitist insult by the distressed working class man whose marriage fell apart when he got downsized. When a Republican commentator tries to speak to the needs of working class whites, he is pilloried by the left and committed free-marketers on the right as making a pitch to Trumpian racists.

Whatever happens in this election, it is the organs of the conservative movement that have to do the hard work afterward of reconciling themselves to the coalition of voters who are willing to choose the Republican Party over the Democrats. And the initiative must be theirs, because they are the only establishment left.

The second is titled "For Trumpism, against Donald Trump":

I've been waiting for a Republican who would say, bluntly, the Iraq War was a disaster. I've been waiting for a Republican candidate to say that the trade deals and legal frameworks that drive globalism have been bad deals for America's workers. I've been waiting for a candidate who would question the elite consensus on mass immigration, not tweak it. And I've been waiting for a candidate to deliver a shock to the conservative movement and the Republican Party, something that would force them to reconnect to the actual material interests of their voters, to make them realize that the market was made for man, and not man for the market.

Unfortunately, the candidate espousing these views is Donald Trump. And the few good causes which he espouses — the ones which could stand on their own, apart from the crutches of noxious racism and populism he uses to prop them up — are too important to be entrusted to him.

I can see clearly why Trumpism is having such a romp. Trump doesn't just talk about change, he is the change. Barack Obama was better at giving a politician's speech than most politicians. But Trump doesn't give speeches the way most politicians do. He doesn't form policy or take positions in the way modern politicians do, with the advice of the professional and permanent political class. Of course Trump's very style would appeal to people who are weakly attached to the political system, the people who are worst-served by it.

Donald Trump makes it seem as if the American people can elect a single, strong personality — him — and immediately get a better deal from the federal government and the process of globalization. Although this is partly the conceit of any presidential campaign — every candidate talks about themselves as if they are about to be made dictator — Trump takes it to new levels, touting his personal strength, his energy, and his fitness. It's the sort of lie that is dangerous to tell, and more dangerous to believe. The fantasy of a strong man is a more advanced symptom of the American republic's corruption, not a cure for it.

And is it enough to say I simply don't trust him? Trump promises to put on a new personality once he is elected. I suspect he would. Trump's voters are just the latest set of marks. Like the graduates of Trump University, or those who dined on Trump's steaks.

Trump brags that he is free of special interests. But the hard truth about special interests is that they at least tie candidates in our system to real, organized groups within the country. Not all of them good, or loyal, or deserving of the public's solicitousness. But they are only as corrupt as the nation itself is. Trump is free of the Chamber of Commerce, sure, but that doesn't make him loyal to anyone else. The fact that the the next president will almost certainly move the Supreme Court from its days as a body that deals out victories to one faction or another, to one that is reliably re-shaping the country in either a conservative or progressive direction is another reason not to go with a wild card.

Trump is vain, vulgar, self-obsessed. He is everything that I dislike about America. I do not believe his candidacy is moving the Overton Window away from global market fundamentalism and toward a healthy American nationalism. He is instead making the causes of a pro-American trade policy and foreign policy more stupid, ugly, and repulsive to many who would benefit from them. He is basically hated by Independents and Democrats, many of whom could be attracted to a Republican Party that recognized that the economy is for man, and not the reverse.

I have wanted a nationalist course-correction for the Republican Party for a long time. America needs at least one political party that is working to create a political economy in which any family that has one hard-worker in it will surely live a decent and secure life. And further, that any family that lacks this through no fault of their own will not be reduced to circumstances that disgrace their nation.

Really, America should have two parties working for this ideal, even as they try to preserve the existing system that richly rewards some superstars and entrepreneurs. Trump will not effect this change in the Republican Party. Rather his political career is already entrenching the already-alarming and corrupting dynamic where the natural political antagonism of the two major parties is exacerbating and heightening racial and ethnic antagonism in American society generally. My best hope is that the scare Trump is delivering to the GOP and the conservative movement will allow steadier men to advance. Men who are less ideological and more attuned to the actual economic and spiritual needs of the party and the nation.

I expect Trump's biggest fans to find these objections prissy. This is a mass democracy, not a mannerly Republic, they'll say. So what, if he's the way he is. A vulgarian supported by a mob is the only way to break through.

And I will thank them for reminding me, that besides being a nationalist, I'm still a conservative too.

And the third is titled, "This is who votes for Donald Trump":

With voters about to have their say in the Republican nominating contest, it is still possible to imagine Donald Trump fading, especially if Iowa's evangelical army comes to the polls, as they usually do. It's also still possible that Donald Trump doesn't want to be president, not really, and his stepping away from a debate is the first sign of him turning tail.

If either happens, there will be an overwhelming temptation to write off Donald Trump's candidacy as a fluke and to try and return the Republican Party to normal. Many will also want to write off the bulk of his supporters, the ones who wait in line and get turned away from overcrowded sports arenas. This temptation ought to be resisted. Not just for the Republican Party's sake, but for the country's.

Some commentators don't have much sympathy for Trump voters. The joke is that when Trump supporters are asked about what motivates them, they rarely speak in polite academese about their economic insecurity; instead they rail against immigrants and political correctness, in the way that would get the average journalist fired and blacklisted.

But who are Trump's voters? Many are voters who identify as evangelicals to pollsters, but have very weak attachments — if any — to church communities. They are less pro-life than traditional social conservatives or establishment-oriented Republicans. They are less likely to have a college degree than either of those other sets of voters too. They hate political correctness. Why? For some because it is an impediment to their expressions of bigotry, sure. For others, because it is a bewildering and exclusionary set of virtue signals, ones that they have neither the time or skill to acquire. They are people who don't participate in electoral politics often.

They are the real-life versions of your fictive, Obama-loathing, Thanksgiving uncle. They are the citizens of what Charles Murray dubbed "Fishtown" in his book Coming Apart.

Nick Confessore summarized Murray's findings this way:

Women in Fishtown now routinely have children outside of marriage. Less than a third of its children grow up in households that include both biological parents. The men claim physical disability at astounding rates and are less likely to hold down jobs than in the past. Churchgoing among the white working class has declined, eroding the social capital that organized religion once provided.

Illegitimacy, crime, joblessness — these are not merely the much debated pathologies of a black underclass, Murray finds. They are white people problems too. [The New York Times]
The economic and social stress for this part of America is real. The fact that these people have had their livelihoods and social status reduced because of the process of globalization is real. And yes, their animus toward foreign competition and immigrants is real too. Their problems should still be addressed, not because the elite views them as virtuous and thus deserving of the help of the state and its political class, but by virtue of our common citizenship. Many of the policy entrepreneurs and political grifters in D.C., when they go back home for a holiday, have members of their families who are also sliding down from the middle class into Fishtown.

Even the left could find a way to justify this to themselves. For some thoroughgoing socialists, the social sins of racism, patriarchy, and classism can be seen as the epiphenomena of capitalism. The capitalist world has to justify the unequal distribution of goods, opportunity, and dignity, and so it generates these ideologies of domination and exclusion. It's no surprise, comrades, that this false consciousness would penetrate even the proletariat itself. In fact, it may be inaccurate to even classify them as the working class. For many it is more accurate to say that they are a wage-when-possible, disability-otherwise class.

But for the political right, the incentive is obvious. Working-class whites are increasingly atomized and disconnected from their communities, larger networks of family, the political process, and the nation. They identify as religious, even if they are backslidden. They support the traditional family, even if they come from and create broken homes. In other words, they are people who aspire to be more like social conservatives, though they lack the material and spiritual resources to become like them.

Donald Trump's campaign has re-exposed them, their unique problems, and their perspective to the political class. It's been a rude experience for many in the political class. The Trump campaign has also proven, so far at least, that this class of voter will turn out for a rally for someone who truly solicits their attention. When his carnival show leaves town, there's still plenty of work to do to rebuild this class and their communities.
 

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Trump hits a nerve - his warts will be overlooked to get someone who will take the gloves off and put up a real fight. Not a Ted Cruz debate you to death fight - but a fight that gets actual results and leaves both sides a bit bloodied up. Cruz is the redcoats lining up and firing like civilized folk, Trump is guerilla warfare, pull hair and bite street fighting. If I need someone roughed up, I don't have to like the guy I hire to brake some knee caps.

When virtually nobody respects politicians, why the hell is it so maddening to see a quinticential non-politician get support?
 

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When virtually nobody respects politicians, why the hell is it so maddening to see a quinticential non-politician get support?
Because he has no principles. He has no moral compass. He thinks "bimbo" is an acceptable expression in polite society. He's a buyer and seller of influence.
 

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Because he has no principles. He has no moral compass. He thinks "bimbo" is an acceptable expression in polite society. He's a buyer and seller of influence.

But Jeb Bush has principles? Hilary Clinton has a moral compass? Bernie Sanders thinks that free college will end all of the social issues in America? Trump is a buyer and seller of influence, correct. But so are all politicians. Trump just admits to it.
 

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Because he has no principles. He has no moral compass. He thinks "bimbo" is an acceptable expression in polite society. He's a buyer and seller of influence.

Why you gotta drag Bill Clinton into this?

Seriously, PC BS is a smokescreen for sleazebags. Trump is an out of the closet sleazebag. The biggest difference I see, is he is not scared to challenge the status quo and the others all epitomize it, meanwhile he exhibits the ability to deal when the others refuse.
 

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But Jeb Bush has principles? Hilary Clinton has a moral compass? Bernie Sanders thinks that free college will end all of the social issues in America? Trump is a buyer and seller of influence, correct. But so are all politicians. Trump just admits to it.

Why you gotta drag Bill Clinton into this?

Seriously, PC BS is a smokescreen for sleazebags. Trump is an out of the closet sleazebag. The biggest difference I see, is he is not scared to challenge the status quo and the others all epitomize it, meanwhile he exhibits the ability to deal when the others refuse.
When did I say I support Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, or Bernie Sanders? Rand Paul has principles. Marco Rubio has a moral compass. Ted Cruz is not a sleazebag.
 

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When did I say I support Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, or Bernie Sanders? Rand Paul has principles. Marco Rubio has a moral compass. Ted Cruz is not a sleazebag.

No one said you do support any of them. But you said that people should be surprised that Trump has support based on the characteristics that you laid out. Going by that logic, no politician anywhere should have any support.
 

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No one said you do support any of them. But you said that people should be surprised that Trump has support based on the characteristics that you laid out. Going by that logic, no politician anywhere should have any support.
You said yourself, Trump admits to it. I can forgive someone with no economic intelligence for believing the things Bernie Sanders says, for example. Hell, Bernie Sanders himself has no economic intelligence and thus believes his own garbage. It makes sense to me that sleazebags who hide their sleazebaggery are able to dupe some people into supporting them. I find it impossible to believe that an open sleazebag gets the same support.
 

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I personally don't think there's any way to slow the momentum for Trump and Bernie and the reason is quite simple: They don't represent the establishment. People in this country are tired of politicians catering to the elite. I found this snippet from an article interesting.

How badly is political power concentrated in America among the very wealthy? A study published in the fall of 2014 by two of America’s most respected political scientists, Princeton professor Martin Gilens and Northwestern’s Benjamin Page, suggests it’s extremely concentrated.

Gilens and Page undertook a detailed analysis of 1,799 policy issues, seeking to determine the relative influence on them of economic elites, business groups, mass-based interest groups and average citizens. Their conclusion was dramatic: “The preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically nonsignificant impact upon public policy.” Instead, Gilens and Page found that lawmakers respond almost exclusively to the moneyed interests – those with the most lobbying prowess and deepest pockets to bankroll campaigns.

I find it particularly sobering that Gilens and Page’s data came from the period 1981 to 2002. That was before the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United opinion, which opened the floodgates to big money in politics, and before the explosion of Super Pacs and secretive “dark money” whose sources do not have to be disclosed by campaigns. It stands to reason that if average Americans had a “near-zero” impact on public policy then, the influence of average Americans is now zero.

Most Americans don’t need a detailed empirical study to convince them of this. They feel disenfranchised, and angry toward a political-economic system that seems rigged against them. This was confirmed for me a few months ago when I was on book tour in America’s heartland, and kept hearing from people who said they were trying to make up their minds in the upcoming election between supporting Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump.

At first I was incredulous. After all, Sanders and Trump are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. It was only after several discussions that I began to understand the connection. Most of these people said they were incensed by “crony capitalism,” by which they meant political payoffs by big corporations and Wall Street banks that result in special favors such as the Wall Street bailout of 2008.

They wanted to close tax loopholes for the rich, such as the special “carried interest” tax break for hedge-fund and private-equity partners. They wanted to reduce the market power of pharmaceutical companies and big health insurers, which they thought resulted in exorbitant prices. They were angry about trade treaties that they characterized as selling-out American workers while rewarding corporate executives and big investors.

Somewhere in all this I came to see what’s fueling the passions of voters in the 2016 election. If you happen to be one of the tens of millions of Americans who are working harder than ever but getting nowhere, and you feel the system is rigged against you and in favor of the rich and powerful, you will go in one of two directions.

Want to reverse sky-high inequality? Bernie Sanders is the pragmatic choice | Robert Reich | Opinion | The Guardian
 

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I personally don't think there's any way to slow the momentum for Trump and Bernie and the reason is quite simple: They don't represent the establishment. People in this country are tired of politicians catering to the elite. I found this snippet from an article interesting.



Want to reverse sky-high inequality? Bernie Sanders is the pragmatic choice | Robert Reich | Opinion | The Guardian

I think that one hits it pretty squarely. All the super enlightened talk of various political philosophies miss the mark. Big F-U to the establishment on both sides.
 

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I think that one hits it pretty squarely. All the super enlightened talk of various political philosophies miss the mark. Big F-U to the establishment on both sides.
Supporting Trump just because he's anti-establishment is illogical. Guy Fawkes was anti-establishment, but that doesn't mean you should try to blow up Parliament.

Think of it this way: There were Christians who were opposed to the Roman Empire and there were barbarian pagans opposed to the Roman Empire. One could, for strategic or conversational simplicity, refer to both groups as “anti-Roman” or even “anti-establishment” but that doesn’t mean the pagans should be confused for Christians or vice versa.

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Trump says nobody who works with Cruz likes him. Kind of has a point. Lots of people like Trump and acknowledge he can be a difficult, pompous ass. It is not mutually exclusive.
 

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I personally don't think there's any way to slow the momentum for Trump and Bernie and the reason is quite simple: They don't represent the establishment. People in this country are tired of politicians catering to the elite. I found this snippet from an article interesting.



Want to reverse sky-high inequality? Bernie Sanders is the pragmatic choice | Robert Reich | Opinion | The Guardian

this captures the overwhelming mood of the US electorate and is, I feel, the reason it will be trump vs sanders in the fall.

but watch out for Bloomberg, real chance he throws his hat in the ring if those two are the (R) and (D) options.
 

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I don't think Bloomberg will be the only person to see blood in the water if those two are on top of the ticket. Maybe a Hillary/Jeb co-presidency run in the establishment pick.
 

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Tucker Carlson just published an article in Politico titled "Donald Trump is Shocking, Vulgar and Right":

About 15 years ago, I said something nasty on CNN about Donald Trump’s hair. I can’t now remember the context, assuming there was one. In any case, Trump saw it and left a message the next day.

“It’s true you have better hair than I do,” Trump said matter-of-factly. “But I get more pussy than you do.” Click.

At the time, I’d never met Trump and I remember feeling amused but also surprised he’d say something like that. Now the pattern seems entirely familiar. The message had all the hallmarks of a Trump attack: shocking, vulgar and indisputably true.

Not everyone finds it funny. On my street in Northwest Washington, D.C., there’s never been anyone as unpopular as Trump. The Democrats assume he’s a bigot, pandering to the morons out there in the great dark space between Georgetown and Brentwood. The Republicans (those relatively few who live here) fully agree with that assessment, and they hate him even more. They sense Trump is a threat to them personally, to their legitimacy and their livelihoods. Idi Amin would get a warmer reception in our dog park.

I understand it of course. And, except in those moments when the self-righteous silliness of rich people overwhelms me and I feel like moving to Maine, I can see their points, some of them anyway. Trump might not be my first choice for president. I’m not even convinced he really wants the job. He’s smart enough to know it would be tough for him to govern.

But just because Trump is an imperfect candidate doesn’t mean his candidacy can’t be instructive. Trump could teach Republicans in Washington a lot if only they stopped posturing long enough to watch carefully. Here’s some of what they might learn:

He Exists Because You Failed

American presidential elections usually amount to a series of overcorrections: Clinton begat Bush, who produced Obama, whose lax border policies fueled the rise of Trump. In the case of Trump, though, the GOP shares the blame, and not just because his fellow Republicans misdirected their ad buys or waited so long to criticize him. Trump is in part a reaction to the intellectual corruption of the Republican Party. That ought to be obvious to his critics, yet somehow it isn’t.

Consider the conservative nonprofit establishment, which seems to employ most right-of-center adults in Washington. Over the past 40 years, how much donated money have all those think tanks and foundations consumed? Billions, certainly. (Someone better at math and less prone to melancholy should probably figure out the precise number.) Has America become more conservative over that same period? Come on. Most of that cash went to self-perpetuation: Salaries, bonuses, retirement funds, medical, dental, lunches, car services, leases on high-end office space, retreats in Mexico, more fundraising. Unless you were the direct beneficiary of any of that, you’d have to consider it wasted.

Pretty embarrassing. And yet they’re not embarrassed. Many of those same overpaid, underperforming tax-exempt sinecure-holders are now demanding that Trump be stopped. Why? Because, as his critics have noted in a rising chorus of hysteria, Trump represents “an existential threat to conservatism.”

Let that sink in. Conservative voters are being scolded for supporting a candidate they consider conservative because it would be bad for conservatism? And by the way, the people doing the scolding? They’re the ones who’ve been advocating for open borders, and nation-building in countries whose populations hate us, and trade deals that eliminated jobs while enriching their donors, all while implicitly mocking the base for its worries about abortion and gay marriage and the pace of demographic change. Now they’re telling their voters to shut up and obey, and if they don’t, they’re liberal.

It turns out the GOP wasn’t simply out of touch with its voters; the party had no idea who its voters were or what they believed. For decades, party leaders and intellectuals imagined that most Republicans were broadly libertarian on economics and basically neoconservative on foreign policy. That may sound absurd now, after Trump has attacked nearly the entire Republican catechism (he savaged the Iraq War and hedge fund managers in the same debate) and been greatly rewarded for it, but that was the assumption the GOP brain trust operated under. They had no way of knowing otherwise. The only Republicans they talked to read the Wall Street Journal too.

On immigration policy, party elders were caught completely by surprise. Even canny operators like Ted Cruz didn’t appreciate the depth of voter anger on the subject. And why would they? If you live in an affluent ZIP code, it’s hard to see a downside to mass low-wage immigration. Your kids don’t go to public school. You don’t take the bus or use the emergency room for health care. No immigrant is competing for your job. (The day Hondurans start getting hired as green energy lobbyists is the day my neighbors become nativists.) Plus, you get cheap servants, and get to feel welcoming and virtuous while paying them less per hour than your kids make at a summer job on Nantucket. It’s all good.

Apart from his line about Mexican rapists early in the campaign, Trump hasn’t said anything especially shocking about immigration. Control the border, deport lawbreakers, try not to admit violent criminals — these are the ravings of a Nazi? This is the “ghost of George Wallace” that a Politico piece described last August? A lot of Republican leaders think so. No wonder their voters are rebelling.

Truth Is Not Only A Defense, It’s Thrilling

When was the last time you stopped yourself from saying something you believed to be true for fear of being punished or criticized for saying it? If you live in America, it probably hasn’t been long. That’s not just a talking point about political correctness. It’s the central problem with our national conversation, the main reason our debates are so stilted and useless. You can’t fix a problem if you don’t have the words to describe it. You can’t even think about it clearly.

This depressing fact made Trump’s political career. In a country where almost everyone in public life lies reflexively, it’s thrilling to hear someone say what he really thinks, even if you believe he’s wrong. It’s especially exciting when you suspect he’s right.

A temporary ban on Muslim immigration? That sounds a little extreme (meaning nobody else has said it recently in public). But is it? Millions of Muslims have moved to Western Europe over the past 50 years, and a sizable number of them still haven’t assimilated. Instead, they remain hostile and sometimes dangerous to the cultures that welcomed them. By any measure, that experiment has failed. What’s our strategy for not repeating it here, especially after San Bernardino—attacks that seemed to come out of nowhere? Invoke American exceptionalism and hope for the best? Before Trump, that was the plan.

Republican primary voters should be forgiven for wondering who exactly is on the reckless side of this debate. At the very least, Trump seems like he wants to protect the country.

Evangelicals understand this better than most. You read surveys that indicate the majority of Christian conservatives support Trump, and then you see the video: Trump on stage with pastors, looking pained as they pray over him, misidentifying key books in the New Testament, and in general doing a ludicrous imitation of a faithful Christian, the least holy roller ever. You wonder as you watch this: How could they be that dumb? He’s so obviously faking it.

They know that already. I doubt there are many Christian voters who think Trump could recite the Nicene Creed, or even identify it. Evangelicals have given up trying to elect one of their own. What they’re looking for is a bodyguard, someone to shield them from mounting (and real) threats to their freedom of speech and worship. Trump fits that role nicely, better in fact than many church-going Republicans. For eight years, there was a born-again in the White House. How’d that work out for Christians, here and in Iraq?

Washington Really Is Corrupt

Everyone beats up on Washington, but most of the people I know who live here love it. Of course they do. It’s beautiful, the people are friendly, we’ve got good restaurants, not to mention full employment and construction cranes on virtually every corner. If you work on Capitol Hill or downtown, it’s hard to walk back from lunch without seeing someone you know. It’s a warm bath. Nobody wants to leave.

But let’s pretend for a second this isn’t Washington. Let’s imagine it’s the capital of an African country, say Burkina Faso, and we are doing a study on corruption. Probably the first question we’d ask: How many government officials have close relatives who make a living by influencing government spending? A huge percentage of them? OK. Case closed. Ouagadougou is obviously a very corrupt city.

That’s how the rest of the country views D.C. Washington is probably the richest city in America because the people who live there have the closest proximity to power. That seems obvious to most voters. It’s less obvious to us, because everyone here is so cheerful and familiar, and we’re too close to it. Chairman so-and-so’s son-in-law lobbies the committee? That doesn’t seem corrupt. He’s such a good guy.

All of which explains why almost nobody in Washington caught the significance of Trump’s finest moment in the first debate. One of the moderators asked, in effect: if you’re so opposed to Hillary Clinton, why did she come to your last wedding? It seemed like a revealing, even devastating question.

Trump’s response, delivered without pause or embarrassment: Because I paid her to be there. As if she was the wedding singer, or in charge of the catering.

Even then, I’ll confess, I didn’t get it. (Why would you pay someone to come to your wedding?) But the audience did. Trump is the ideal candidate to fight Washington corruption not simply because he opposes it, but because he has personally participated in it. He’s not just a reformer; like most effective populists, he’s a whistleblower, a traitor to his class. Before he became the most ferocious enemy American business had ever known, Teddy Roosevelt was a rich guy. His privilege wasn't incidental; it was key to his appeal. Anyone can peer through the window in envy. It takes a real man to throw furniture through it from the inside.

If Trump is leading a populist movement, many of his Republican critics have joined an elitist one. Deriding Trump is an act of class solidarity, visible evidence of refinement and proof that you live nowhere near a Wal-Mart. Early last summer, in a piece that greeted Trump when he entered the race, National Review described the candidate as “a ridiculous buffoon with the worst taste since Caligula.” Virtually every other critique of Trump from the right has voiced similar aesthetic concerns.

Why is the Party of Ideas suddenly so fixated on fashion and hair? Maybe all dying institutions devolve this way, from an insistence on intellectual rigor to a flabby preoccupation with appearances. It happened in the Episcopal Church, once renowned for its liturgy, now a stop on architectural and garden tours. Only tourists go there anymore.

He Could Win

Of all the dumb things that have been said about Trump by people who were too slow to get finance jobs and therefore wound up in journalism, perhaps the stupidest of all is the one you hear most: He’ll get killed in the general! This is a godsend for Democrats! Forty-state wipeout! And so it goes mindlessly on.

Actually — and this is no endorsement of Trump, just an interjection of reality — that’s a crock. Of the Republicans now running, Trump likely has the best chance to beat Hillary Clinton, for two reasons:

First, he’s the only Republican who can meaningfully expand the pie. Polls show a surprisingly large number of Democrats open to Trump. In one January survey by the polling form Mercury Analytics , almost 20 percent said they’d consider crossing over to him from Hillary. Even if that’s double the actual number, it’s still stunning. Could Ted Cruz expect to draw that many Democrats? Could Jeb?

It’s an article of faith in Washington that Trump would tank the party’s prospects with minority voters. Sounds logical, especially if you’re a sensitive white liberal who considers the suggestion of a border wall a form of hate speech, but consider the baseline. In the last election, Romney got 6 percent of the black vote, and 27 percent of Hispanics. Trump, who’s energetic, witty and successful, will do worse? I wouldn’t bet on it.

But the main reason Trump could win is because he’s the only candidate hard enough to call Hillary’s bluff. Republicans will say almost anything about Hillary, but almost none challenge her basic competence. She may be evil, but she’s tough and accomplished. This we know, all of us.

But do we? Or is this understanding of Hillary just another piety we repeat out of unthinking habit, the political equivalent of, “you can be whatever you want to be,” or “breakfast is the most important meal of the day”? Trump doesn’t think Hillary is impressive and strong. He sees her as brittle and afraid.

He may be right, based on his exchange with her just before Christmas. During a speech in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Trump said Hillary had been “schlonged” by Obama in the 2008 race. In response, the Clinton campaign called Trump a sexist. It’s a charge Hillary has leveled against virtually every opponent she’s faced, but Trump responded differently. Instead of scrambling to donate to breast cancer research, he pointed out that Hillary spent years attacking the alleged victims of her husband’s sexual assaults. That ended the conversation almost immediately.

It was the most effective possible response, though more obvious than brilliant. Why was Trump the only Republican to use it?

Republican primary voters may be wondering the same thing. Or maybe they already know. They seem to know a lot about Trump, more than the people who run their party. They know that he isn’t a conventional ideological conservative. They seem relieved. They can see that he’s emotionally incontinent. They find it exciting.

Washington Republicans look on at this in horror, their suspicions confirmed. Beneath the thin topsoil of rural conservatism, they see the seeds of proto-fascism beginning to sprout. But that’s not quite right. Republicans in the states aren’t dangerous. They’ve just evaluated the alternatives and decided those are worse.
 
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