2015 Pre-Season Coaches Poll (ND #11)

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ND #11

1) Ohio State
2) TCU
3) Alabama
4) Baylor
5) Oregon
6) Michigan State
7) Auburn
8) Florida State
9) Georgia
10) USC
11) Notre Dame
12) Clemson
13) LSU
14) UCLA
15) Ole Miss
16) Arizona State
17) Georgia Tech
18) Wisconsin
19) Oklahoma
20) Arkansas
21) Stanford
22) Arizona
23) Missouri
24) Boise State
25) Tennessee
 
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I think it's a very fair rating. I think we're a better team than Michigan State, but they have a better track record over the last two seasons for sure so that's a tough argument to make. Auburn wasn't great last year, but Malzahn/Muschamp is a very scary combination. I think we're right where we belong personally.
 

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MSU overrated by a country mile, USC is underrated.

In general... coaches did a very good job with this poll.
 

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How is MSU overrated? The overrated team in this poll is Bama.

Disagree. Bama just reloads, their question marks aren't really question marks. I'm doubtful they lose more than 2 games max during their regular season.

MSU has an overrated QB, overrated defense, and overrated offensive line. In their 3 games against real teams last year they:
-Lost by 19 to Oregon.
-Lost by 12 to Ohio State.
-Were getting blown out by Baylor and then had a 21 point miracle 4th quarter comeback to win by 1 point with 17 seconds left. The comeback included two missed field goals by Baylor (including one block returned 36 yards) and a recovered onside kick.

They gave up 46, 49, and 41 points in those games... yet are billed as having an "elite" defense despite no more Narduzzi, being mediocre last year, and losing some of their best players. MSU is a 7-5 team in the PAC12 South or SEC West.
 
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How is Bama ever overrated? They had 3 Nattys in 4-5 years and they have consistently signed the top recruiting class for the last 4 or maybe 5 years. There coach is no slouch, how are they ever overrated?

They may drop a few games but I don't know how anyone can claim a team that loaded is overrated.

MSU is not overrated either, they continually end with double digit wins.

We're actually rated higher than I thought. These preseason rankings are to drum up hype. We don't need hype, we need followthrough.

M.O.G. fall camp can't get here soon enough.
 

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The ones that jump out at me as overrated are Wisky, Tennessee, Arky, and Ole Miss… I can’t complain about Bama’s one bit as much as I’d like to.

Even with the four I mentioned, I'm not worked up about any of them, preseason polls rarely if ever get me going one way or the other.
 
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The ones that jump out at me as overrated are Wisky, Teneesee, Arky, and Ole Miss… I can’t complain about Bama’s one bit as much as I’d like to.

Even with the four I mentioned, I'm not worked up about any of them, preseason polls rarely if ever get me going one way or the other.
Lots of people talking high on Tennessee this year.
 

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How is Bama ever overrated? They had 3 Nattys in 4-5 years and they have consistently signed the top recruiting class for the last 4 or maybe 5 years. There coach is no slouch, how are they ever overrated?

They may drop a few games but I don't know how anyone can claim a team that loaded is overrated.

MSU is not overrated either, they continually end with double digit wins.

We're actually rated higher than I thought. These preseason rankings are to drum up hype. We don't need hype, we need followthrough.

M.O.G. fall camp can't get here soon enough.

Would you take MSU to beat Auburn, FSU, Georgia, or USC? I wouldn't. Probably neither would Vegas. Their defense is a myth.
 

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MSU'S D was smashed when they played against great O's but you can't argue their recent success. Honest question, who do you have more faith in to getting into a New Year's Six game or The CFP.. MSU or ND? and keep it real.
 

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MSU'S D was smashed when they played against great O's but you can't argue their recent success. Honest question, who do you have more faith in to getting into a New Year's Six game or The CFP.. MSU or ND? and keep it real.
I don't see Sparty beating Ohio State to win the East. But they'll probably coast to 10-2. So I think we have a better shot at the playoff (since they'd need to win the B1G), but they have a better shot at a New Year's Six (since 10-2 will probably get there).
 

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I don't see Sparty beating Ohio State to win the East. But they'll probably coast to 10-2. So I think we have a better shot at the playoff (since they'd need to win the B1G), but they have a better shot at a New Year's Six (since 10-2 will probably get there).

As much as it's UofM, they're a MSU rival, the games always big for both teams, and it's at the big house this year. With that, their OSU game away, Oregon on the schedule, I could see them losing 3.
 

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The preseason coaches poll came out Thursday morning ... and you'll never guess who's No. 1!
While the coaches poll holds no bearing on who makes the College Football Playoff, the committee doesn't put out its first set until November. We need something to fill the void, and who doesn't love college football rankings in July?
Ohio State was the overwhelming No. 1 is hardly a surprise. But here's my initial reaction to which teams the coaches ranked too high or too low.
Overrated teams
No. 3 Alabama. While hardly a surprise that the coaches expect Nick Saban's juggernaut to just keep rolling, the Crimson Tide enter 2015 with more question marks than any Saban team of the past five years. That starts first and foremost with quarterback, where once-ballyhooed Florida State transfer Jake Coker still has not cemented the starting job. It's no certainty Alabama will be the best team in its own division this year much less No. 3 in the whole country.
No. 8 Florida State. Like Alabama, FSU has built up enough benefit of the doubt at this point that some probably find this ranking too low. But in this case, coaches are assuming that Everett Golson will sweep in and master the 'Noles' offense; Dalvin Cook will either be reinstated or barely missed; the entire offensive line will be smoothly replaced; and FSU's defense will considerably improve. That's a lot to ask.
College Football Pick 'Em!


No. 10 USC. C'mon, that's ridiculous. Look at USC's 2014 results and explain why the Trojans -- now without dominating defensive lineman Leonard Williams, among others -- will vault from barely-in-the-top 25 to top 10.
No. 13 LSU. The Tigers may have the least-confidence inspiring quarterback stable of any team in these rankings. Nor does this have the makings of a vintage LSU defense (especially without departed coordinator John Chavis). The Tigers may struggle to finish in the upper half of the SEC West much less approach the upper half of the top 25.
No. 18 Wisconsin. The Badgers are usually a steady bet from year to year, but there's a lot of uncertainty with this team, from yet another head-coaching change to no Melvin Gordon to an inexperienced O-line and a whole bunch of new starters on defense.
Underrated teams
No. 6 Michigan State. Not that you could realistically move the Spartans much higher, but they just beat No. 4 Baylor in last year's Cotton Bowl and I expect them to beat No. 5 Oregon when the teams meet Sept. 12 in East Lansing.


No. 11 Notre Dame. Granted, the Irish should not even be allowed to field a college football team unless they join a conference (according to assorted coaches around the country recently), but this team is loaded. It returns 11 players with starting experience on defense to go with a bunch of talented skill players on offense. It belongs in the top 10.
No. 16 Arizona State. The Sun Devils -- coming off consecutive 10-win seasons -- are my pick to win the stacked Pac-12 South. Mike Bercovici has shown star power at quarterback, he's got a deep tailback stable behind him and a deep and athletic defense to help. Swap USC and ASU.
No. 24 Boise State. The Broncos won 12 games last year, beat the Pac-12 South champs (Arizona) in the Fiesta Bowl and should be even better this year. In fact, they're a threat to run the table and cause the committee some serious debating. I'd have them no lower than their No. 16 ranking to end last season.
NR Virginia Tech. I espoused my confidence in the Hokies in this week's Mailbag. Their defense is going to be unbelievable. Granted it's hard to justify including a returning 7-6 team in the preseason poll ... unless of course, like Tennessee, it plays in the SEC.
Stewart Mandel is a senior college sports columnist for FOXSports.com. He covered college football and basketball for 15 years at Sports Illustrated. You can follow him on Twitter @slmandel and Facebook. Send emails and Mailbag questions to Stewart.Mandel@fox.com.
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For last few years people keep saying MSU will drop off and they just haven't... ND seems about right on this list..

Bama seems high, but with their history I don't fault their place
 

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Would you take MSU to beat Auburn, FSU, Georgia, or USC? I wouldn't. Probably neither would Vegas. Their defense is a myth.

I wouldn't take them to beat Auburn, I would take them against FSU, Georgia is a push, USC is a push.

Until they fall to single digits, I won't doubt MSU. They continually outperform and I've become a believer.
 

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Disagree. Bama just reloads, their question marks aren't really question marks. I'm doubtful they lose more than 2 games max during their regular season.

MSU has an overrated QB, overrated defense, and overrated offensive line. In their 3 games against real teams last year they:
-Lost by 19 TDs to Oregon.
-Lost by 12 to Ohio State.
-Were getting blown out by Baylor and then had a 21 point miracle 4th quarter comeback to win by 1 point with 17 seconds left. The comeback included two missed field goals by Baylor (including one block returned 36 yards) and a recovered onside kick.

They gave up 46, 49, and 41 points in those games... yet are billed as having an "elite" defense despite no more Narduzzi, being mediocre last year, and losing some of their best players. MSU is a 7-5 team in the PAC12 South or SEC West.

I don't know man, Alabama gave up 44, 42, and 42 points in their final three games. Do they not have an elite defense either?
 
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