2010 Schedule Complete...Finally

[irishfan]

According to this article, we added on Tulsa and Western Michigan....

Notre Dame has agreed to play Western Michigan in football next season, completing the 2010 schedule.

Athletic director Jack Swarbrick said Thursday the Irish also will play Tulsa and Utah in South Bend next season, its second season of playing seven home games, one home game at a neutral site and four road games. Swarbrick said the dates will officially be released Friday.

It will be the first time the Fighting Irish have played Tulsa or Utah. Notre Dame played Western in 1919 and 1920, winning 53-0 and 41-0.

The road games are at Michigan State, Boston College, Navy and Southern California. The other home games are Purdue, Michigan, Stanford and Pittsburgh. The home game at the neutral site is at Yankee Stadium on Nov. 20.

ND to play Western Michigan, Tulsa, Utah in 2010

We're not playing at Navy right? So we only have 3 real away games next year? And Western Michigan? I mean I'm happy Swarbrick didnt go with TCU but I was hoping for like Fresno State or atleast a more respected mid-major in the Media's eyes than WMU.

 

[irishfan]

We're paying them 800,000 and apparently they had to move their game with VA Tech to 2016.

Western Michigan football to play at Notre Dame next season | Western Michigan Broncos - - MLive.com

 

[Riddickulous]

When are we playing Western Michigan? October? November?

I know that there were a few openings in October.

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Nothing like Directional Schools......

 

[irishfan]

WMU is supposedly Oct 16 and I'm assuming Tulsa is Oct. 30 or Nov. 6

 

[irishfan]

So our schedule will be:

S04 PURDUE
S11 MICHIGAN
S18 @ Michigan St.
S25 STANFORD
O02 @ Boston College
O09 PITTSBURGH
O16 WESTERN MICHIGAN
O23 @ Navy (NY/NJ)
O30/N06 TULSA
N13 Utah
N20 Army (Yankee Stadium)
N27 @ Southern Cal

So 7 Home Games, 3 Away games, 2 neutral site games...Mark May is gonna have a field day with this one

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Yikes.....Not very strong.

 

[Riddickulous]

Jimmy Clausen could throw for 4,000 yards next season...if he comes back.

Dayne could throw for 3,500.

 

[irishfan]

Yikes.....Not very strong.

The five non-BCS teams in a row could be rough on the SOS.

 

[mick2]

well everybody else is doing it!

Not sure what to think of it. i dont like it because we are scheduling weaker opponents just like everybody else seems to be doing.

But i do like it because it will help the W column

 

[Riddickulous]

Positives

- More wins
- Increased stats

Negatives

- Criticism
- Another year of "_____ on ND is overrated, he doesn't play anybody"

 

[DirtySecret]

I wish Miami and ND could of come to an agreement. I would much rather play Miami than Western Mich..

 

[BGIF]

Yikes.....Not very strong.

Softer than this year.

Per current Sagarin

2009; 2010

UW #29; Utah #18 Diference +11 slots
CON #52; Tulsa #65 Difference -13 slots
NEV #87; WMU #98 Difference -12 slots
WSU #118; Army #141 Difference -23 slots

Net Difference 37 slots divided by 12 games makes the entire schedule about 3 ranking slots/per game softer.


However, phork has advised us that a RichRod team will not lose again (at least not to ND)

Seriously,

Michigan will be in the 3rd year of the Spread with a soph QB. They should be Betterr.
MSU shouldn't be as strong but UM but's solid competition. Better
Stanford - Harbaugh been building this program = Better
BC is contending for their 3rd ACC Title in a year when they should have been lucky to break even. = Better
PITT is ranked nationally, chasing the Big East title and Wanny has the program improving. Better
Southern Cal will be over their reloading. Better
Utah is ranked nationally

It's not a '88 or '89 schedule, actually looks more like Parshegian schedules.

 

[BGIF]

Positives

- More wins
- Increased stats

Negatives

- Criticism
- Another year of "_____ on ND is overrated, he doesn't play anybody"

Can you elaborate on the the More Wins?

Do you expect '09 losses to Connecticut and WSU?

ND's already beaten NEV and UW. And Utah is supposed to be a more formidable opponent if you believe the posts from the WAC/WMC lovers. And that doesn't include improvement by the holdovers on the schedule.


Unless adding WMU guarantee wins over UM and Southern Cal next year where do you see them coming from?

 

[mick2]

well except navy that bottom portion of the schedule looks like a 5 week preseason slate leading up to usc.

that could be good.

actually scratch that tulsa and utah are good programs. but i have no idea what theyll be like next year.

 

[provi1]

man am I going to be given a hard time next year, better start prepping the ammunition

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Softer than this year.

Per current Sagarin

2009; 2010

UW #29; Utah #18 Diference +11 slots
CON #52; Tulsa #65 Difference -13 slots
NEV #87; WMU #98 Difference -12 slots
WSU #118; Army #141 Difference -23 slots

Net Difference 37 slots divided by 12 games makes the entire schedule about 3 ranking slots/per game softer.


However, phork has advised us that a RichRod team will not lose again (at least not to ND)

Seriously,

Michigan will be in the 3rd year of the Spread with a soph QB. They should be Betterr.
MSU shouldn't be as strong but UM but's solid competition. Better
Stanford - Harbaugh been building this program = Better
BC is contending for their 3rd ACC Title in a year when they should have been lucky to break even. = Better
PITT is ranked nationally, chasing the Big East title and Wanny has the program improving. Better
Southern Cal will be over their reloading. Better
Utah is ranked nationally

It's not a '88 or '89 schedule, actually looks more like Parshegian schedules.

I hear ya brother.....I guess it just doesn't look so great on paper a year out from when we put foot to ball again. Guess I'll hold judgement on this until August.

Go Irish!!! Beat Eagles!!!

 

[provi1]

Wait a minute I thought we were to start facing Nebraska in 2010

 

[JefMaj]

1st half of the schedule is strong, then it gets weaker.

People will give us shit to closeout with WMU, Navy, Tulsa, Utah, Army, Southern Cal.

We can't help USC they are a tradition, we owe to them... whether they are good or bad Can't get blamed for that that. Same as Navy.

Tulsa's legit, so is Utah, Navy is dangerous but we get no credit there, Army is a cupcake hidden as a tradition revisit at Yankee, WMU... guess it's a regional that all of the other top tier big schools are playing. They moved Vir. Tech off their schedule to make it work with us.

Purdue, MSU, UM, Pitt, Stanford, BC, Utah, USC...there is meat there - and all should be improved.

4 teams that are weak. I dont know.

 

[GOLDENISTHYTATE]

I don't like the Western Michigan addition, but Tulsa always has a lights-out offense and Utah always produces great defenses. I look forward to both games, especially the Utah one.

 

[jason_h537]

Utah?

Sep. 4 Purdue
Sep. 11 Michigan
Sep. 18 at Michigan St.
Sep. 25 Stanford
Oct. 2 at Boston College
Oct. 9 Pittsburgh
Oct. 16 Army (Chicago)
Oct. 23 Navy (Baltimore)
Nov. 7 TBD (rumored to be Tulsa)
Nov. 13 Rutgers (site TBD)
Nov. 20 TBD (rumored to be WMU)
Nov. 27 USC

Where did Utah come up

 

[irishfan]

Utah?

Sep. 4 Purdue
Sep. 11 Michigan
Sep. 18 at Michigan St.
Sep. 25 Stanford
Oct. 2 at Boston College
Oct. 9 Pittsburgh
Oct. 16 Army (Chicago)
Oct. 23 Navy (Baltimore)
Nov. 7 TBD (rumored to be Tulsa)
Nov. 13 Rutgers (site TBD)
Nov. 20 TBD (rumored to be WMU)
Nov. 27 USC

Where did Utah come up

Utah has been on for a little while. I think your schedule is a little outdated because the ND-Rutgers series talks died out when Rutgers wanted to have home games as opposed to their "home" games being played at neutral sites.

This is the finalized one... still shocked at us having only 3 real away games lol

Sept. 4 PURDUE (NBC)
Sept. 11 MICHIGAN (NBC)
Sept. 18 at Michigan State
Sept. 25 STANFORD (NBC)
Oct. 2 at Boston College
Oct. 9 PITTSBURGH (NBC)
Oct. 16 W. MICHIGAN (NBC)
Oct. 23 vs. Navy*
Oct. 30 TULSA (NBC)
Nov. 13 UTAH (NBC)
Nov. 20 vs. Army (NBC)
Nov. 27 at Southern California
Home games in CAPS
*At New Meadowlands Stadium; East Rutherford, N.J.
^At Yankee Stadium; New York

South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame football: Irish finalize 2010 slate

 

[BGIF]

...

... still shocked at us having only 3 real away games lol

I know the NDN crowd still eat their young over the "7-4-1 model". Curioius I looked back over past schedules. I was suprise to see how many frequently ND played few "real" away games.

Rockne in 1924 played 3 away games and 2 neutral site games. I believe that was a NC year.

Layden had 3 "real" away games in 1934, '35, and '38 and only 2 away games in '36 and '39.

Leahy had understandably had few away game during the War years but in 1946, ND played 3 on the road. AN NC season.

Ara had 3 away games in '68. He frequently played 4 away games like in the 10-2 season in 1974.

Devine's schedule look like a standard 4 road games in an 11 and 12 game season.

Faust likewise usually had 4 away games.

I wonder how many people realize that in 1988 ND only played 3 games on the road, MSU, PIT, and USC. Another NC year.

 

[devolg]

Doesn't matter, we'll never be given any respect until....

A) We can beat SC
B) We can schedule at least 1 decent SEC team

 

[irish4ever]

So our schedule will be:

So 7 Home Games, 3 Away games, 2 neutral site games...Mark May is gonna have a field day with this one

To hell w/ that skank bastard!

 

[NDinL.A.]

People automatically assume that ND always used to have the toughest schedule inthe land. Here's some perspective:

"Below is our 1973 schedule. 10 games that got us a spot opposite Alabama in the Sugar Bowl for a NC.

9/22 vs. Northwestern (4-7) W 44 0
9/29 @ Purdue (5-6) W 20 7
10/6 vs. Michigan State (5-6) W 14 10
10/13 @ Rice (5-6) W 28 0
10/20 @ Army (0-10) W 62 3
10/27 vs. Southern California (9-2-1) W 23 14
11/3 vs. Navy (4-7) W 44 7
11/10 @ Pittsburgh (6-5-1) W 31 10
11/22 vs. Air Force (6-4) W 48 15
12/1 @ Miami (Florida) (5-6) W 44 0"

ND had ONE signature win that year, and still got into the NC game...and the was BEFORE the BCS mess. Go look at the '88 schedule. It was weak as well, with the real difference being that there is no "Miami" on this schedule, which made the 88 schedule appear to be tougher than it was. There were 8 gimmies in '88 (Penn St went 5-6 that year).

Look, I'm not in love with the sked, and yes, we're going to have to hear shit from rivals. But guess what? Those morons talked shit about the sked this year, and no matter what I told them, they still talked crap. And now that we're sitting at the #13 SOS in the nation (sure to drop, but still not bad at all), they STILL call the sked weak. USC and Mich will be highly ranked next year, and a USC win on the road will go a lonnnnnnggggg way. And in case anyone forgot, this ain't your grandma's Utah program. They just destroyed Bama in a BCS game. If Utah is very good again next year, we're looking at 3 highly ranked programs, plus MSU (who my in-law, an MSU booster and very well-connected, has been saying since the summer will be much better next year) and BC and Stanford, etc.

And if you are concerned about what Mark May says, well, we could play a sked of 12 top 25 teams, beat them all, and he's STILL find a way to criticize ND. Just the way it is...

 

[JefMaj]

I don't buy it - too lazy to look for myself, however, I don't believe until last year (did we last year) that we ever played a 7 homegame schedule. And, would even contest that we played a 4 year away schedule??? Show us.
Now - if we played a 4 away game schedule in an 8 or 9 game total schedule - then blow me - why would you even bring it up? But show some schedules and show your point, which was what?

No matter where I look (back thru '95) I see no more than 6 home games - and less in the "old" days. If you are counting Navy -well, that's lame... "Navy Stadium"??? THEY prefer to play in Baltimore - Meadowlands - it's their home game and $$$$$$.

 

[notredomer23]

I don't see how you can say that schedule is easy. Michigan, Utah, USC will be ranked. Pittsburgh probably will be ranked, and at BC will be a very tough game. Not an easy schedule. Good thing we will be good next year

 

[mick2]

so with this schedule it is pretty evident that we are going to be in the title discussion come nov. 27th. no?

 

[BGIF]

I don't buy it - too lazy to look for myself, however, I don't believe until last year (did we last year) that we ever played a 7 homegame schedule. And, would even contest that we played a 4 year away schedule??? Show us.
Now - if we played a 4 away game schedule in an 8 or 9 game total schedule - then blow me - why would you even bring it up? But show some schedules and show your point, which was what?

No matter where I look (back thru '95) I see no more than 6 home games - and less in the "old" days. If you are counting Navy -well, that's lame... "Navy Stadium"??? THEY prefer to play in Baltimore - Meadowlands - it's their home game and $$$$$$.

Hard to tell which is worse your self expressed sloth, your inability to read, or your claims of attending all those ND home games. If you can stop fellating yourself for a moment and can bring yourself to scroll down a couple of posts, check my original post about past schedules and note the last line in BOLD (was it too hard to see? I'll make it larger for you.):

I wonder how many people realize that in 1988 ND only played 3 games on the road, MSU, PIT, and USC. Another NC year.

Here are the 1988 HOME Game Opponents:

1) Michigan
2) Purdue
3) Stanford
4) Miami
5) Air Force
6) Rice
7) Penn State

... and there was a Neutral game against Navy in Memorial Stadium in Baltimore.

Did you miss that entire season in a coma, Jef?

That's Seven (7) Home Games, Three (3) Away Games, and One (1) Neutral Game in an 11 Game Season. Q.E.D.



Did you miss the Ara's 68 season as well? In a 9 game game season that year, ND only played 3 "real" away games plus a neutral game against Navy.

Rockne only played 3 "real" away games in 1924, as noted previously. He played 2 Neutral games, of course one was in the friendly confines of Soldier Field while the other was in the Polo Grounds - both "Subway" Games.

You don't want to contest "4 year away" schedules. It runs throughout ND's history. The 3 game schedules are more significant.

Why bring up 4 away games in a 9 game schedule? Actually I brought 3 up a 9 game schedule 1924 and 3 in an 11 game schedule. Is the math too difficult too grasp?

2 away games in 9 is 22.2% Road Games/season 1903
2 away games in 9 is 22.2% Road Games/season 1905
2 away games in 9 is 22.2% Road Games/season 1931
2 away games in 9 is 22.2% Road Games/season 1939
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1901
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1908
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1924
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1928
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1932
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1933
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1934
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1938
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1940
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1941
3 away games in 9 is 33.3% Road Games/season 1946
3 away games in 10 is 30.0% Road Games/season 1899
3 away games in 10 is 30.0% Road Games/season 1900
3 away games in 10 is 30.0% Road Games/season 1944
3 away games in 10 is 30.0% Road Games/season 1968
3 away games in 10 is 30.0% Road Games/season 1994
3 away games in 11 is 27% Road Games/season 1942
3 away games in 11 is 27% Road Games/season 1988
3 away games in 11 is 27% Road Games/season 1992
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1925
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1926
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1929
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1930
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1949
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1951
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1954
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1956
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1958
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1960
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1962
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1964
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1965
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1966
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1968
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1969
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1970
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1971
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1972
4 away games is 10 is 40% Road Games/season 1993
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1921
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1974
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1977
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1978
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1979
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1984
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1986
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1990
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1994
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1995
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1996
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 1998
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 2000
4 away games in 11 is 36.4 % Road Game/season 2004
4 away games in 12 is 33.3% Road Games/season 2002
4 away games in 12 is 33.3% Road Games/season 2010


The point of my previous post?

It was expressed at the very top of that post. Despite all the whining over the 7-4-1 model ND has frequently played few "real" away games. Even in 1929 when ND Stadium was being built and ND had no home field only 4 games were "away".


Before you respond you may want to whip the spunk off your chin.