'20 MI DE Braiden McGregor (Michigan Verbal)

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As for McGregor. I have finally come to the conclusion that he will be Irish. I never thought that until the last 24 hours.
 

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McGregegor and Mills seem to have pretty similar skill sets, how many SDE's are we looking to take?
 

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McGregegor and Mills seem to have pretty similar skill sets, how many SDE's are we looking to take?

Braiden is a Drop

- The Staff

They may display similar skill sets on football film but one look at McG's hoops tape and it's clear, there is a different animal lurking inside.

They both have future flexibility but Mills will be inside, McG at SDE, and Botelho at Drop most of the times until the sub packages move them around.
 

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McGregegor and Mills seem to have pretty similar skill sets, how many SDE's are we looking to take?

Mills is likely a 3T. McGregor is either a WDE or a SDE. Most people on here seem to think he's a WDE based on comments, though in his film he looks more like an extremely athletic SDE to me.
 

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Just put him anywhere and let him annihilate QBs

This. Just stack these incredibly talented players together and let them eat. I'm really floored by how well the staff is finally recruiting the DL. Next year's draft should help continue this trend.
 

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I'm trying not to get too optimistic with this one but it's hard not to with the last few days
 

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This. Just stack these incredibly talented players together and let them eat. I'm really floored by how well the staff is finally recruiting the DL. Next year's draft should help continue this trend.

You really have to wonder what caused the sudden change? Making it to the playoffs, the performance of the D-line last year, change in recruiting tactics? Regardless, this is good!
 

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You really have to wonder what caused the sudden change? Making it to the playoffs, the performance of the D-line last year, change in recruiting tactics? Regardless, this is good!

Like most things in life, I don't think it's related to any one thing. There are happen to be a large number personality fits in recent classes. The program is more consistent. The DL play has been very good and the defense as a unit, has been extremely good compared to prior years. First playoff appearance in the books.

I think all of this has to be appealing. If our DL has the year we expect in 2019, I think that bodes well for 2021 and beyond.

I really hope we can add McGregor, keep all the current commits and put a big ass bow on it. This class would compete with the Tuitt/Lynch/Ishaq class for most hyped DL class that I can remember and possibly the most complete/high-rated class in the Kelly era.
 

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Like most things in life, I don't think it's related to any one thing. There are happen to be a large number personality fits in recent classes. The program is more consistent. The DL play has been very good and the defense as a unit, has been extremely good compared to prior years. First playoff appearance in the books.

I think all of this has to be appealing. If our DL has the year we expect in 2019, I think that bodes well for 2021 and beyond.

I really hope we can add McGregor, keep all the current commits and put a big ass bow on it. This class would compete with the Tuitt/Lynch/Ishaq class for most hyped DL class that I can remember and possibly the most complete/high-rated class in the Kelly era.

I think it would be better. That class really was not a fit even though they were all highly ranked players. Kelly has changed his tactics so to get a class like this while going after guys who can make it here makes this the best DL haul he's had.
 

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Sometimes you just get lucky and have a group of guys who are ND RKG's. Couple that with ND finally going after those kids as early as their rivals and it works out. Offering early, I've harped about this long before my IE days. Do your research, identify your targets, hand offers out like candy & out work the other guys building relationships. It's simple.
 

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If we are able to pull this off and get Braiden in the fold, then what a recruiting run the past two years. Great job by Elston and staff. However if you want to get depressed go look at what Clemson is doing for their d line this year. We don't even come close to comparing to the recruiting star power they have.
 

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Sometimes you just get lucky and have a group of guys who are ND RKG's. Couple that with ND finally going after those kids as early as their rivals and it works out. Offering early, I've harped about this long before my IE days. Do your research, identify your targets, hand offers out like candy & out work the other guys building relationships. It's simple.

Tied into that would be improved recruiting staff. Bill Rees is big time. Also the staff is better at recruiting. Brian Polian is a beast on the west coast. Mike Elston has always been good. Terry Joseph is excellent. Clark Lea is turning into a big time recruiter. Tom Rees is shaping up to be a special recruiter as well (locked down all good QB’s and got Rylie Mills on board). Jeff Quinn grinds a lot more than Hiestand but the jury is still out until the dust settles on the 2020 class. Del Alexander is big time, Lance Taylor seems special as well. Lots and lots of big time recruiters on staff coupled with the earlier offering and all the things you mentioned and ND is moving up the charts in recruiting.
 

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If we are able to pull this off and get Braiden in the fold, then what a recruiting run the past two years. Great job by Elston and staff. However if you want to get depressed go look at what Clemson is doing for their d line this year. We don't even come close to comparing to the recruiting star power they have.

That's a recipe for depression. They've been pumping out high quality DL in the draft and winning nattys. There are two programs, maybe three, recruiting at that level right now:

Clemson, Bama, Georgia to some extent.

If you really want to be depressed, look at our DL recruiting during the prior decade. There were a few high marks but man, it was rough.

Kelly and staff are getting more highly rated players but more importantly, they are signing complete classes so we don't have glaring holes on the roster. Now, with that said, secondary has me most worried for this cycle.

We need to get some PTPers on board.
 

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As for McGregor. I have finally come to the conclusion that he will be Irish. I never thought that until the last 24 hours.

I was also skeptical and I'm leaning that way too now. It'd be one thing if one or two were exuding confidence (especially Loy), but every Notre Dame beat reporter seems to think we'll win this one.

If we don't get him, it'll be because ND staff read things completely wrong and the reporters bought it. Which happens, see: Skoronski. But some of the statements (Elston's tweet, Loy: "I can’t share everything on this front quite yet") make it sound like they're sharing an open secret.
 

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Tied into that would be improved recruiting staff. Bill Rees is big time. Also the staff is better at recruiting. Brian Polian is a beast on the west coast. Mike Elston has always been good. Terry Joseph is excellent. Clark Lea is turning into a big time recruiter. Tom Rees is shaping up to be a special recruiter as well (locked down all good QB’s and got Rylie Mills on board). Jeff Quinn grinds a lot more than Hiestand but the jury is still out until the dust settles on the 2020 class. Del Alexander is big time, Lance Taylor seems special as well. Lots and lots of big time recruiters on staff coupled with the earlier offering and all the things you mentioned and ND is moving up the charts in recruiting.

Nothing wrong with Quinn's recruiting, just the opposite. He's great. When Tosh announces tomorrow all will be good. The guys he's "lost"? Christ and Skoronski... Guys I loved but from the outside Christ is a 3* OT and Pete's an undersized OT who has to learn the interior. People on the outside are like, so what... go get Carmody. Which he will finally.

Plus, in 2022 you'll look back and go, "How did Quinn pull that 2021 class inbetween 2019 and the best class in ND history... 2021??? Dude's a freak."

I was also skeptical and I'm leaning that way too now. It'd be one thing if one or two were exuding confidence (especially Loy), but every Notre Dame beat reporter seems to think we'll win this one.

If we don't get him, it'll be because ND staff read things completely wrong and the reporters bought it. Which happens, see: Skoronski. But some of the statements (Elston's tweet, Loy: "I can’t share everything on this front quite yet") make it sound like they're sharing an open secret.

McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.
 

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McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.

Don't you break my heart like that.
 

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Nothing wrong with Quinn's recruiting, just the opposite. He's great. When Tosh announces tomorrow all will be good. The guys he's "lost"? Christ and Skoronski... Guys I loved but from the outside Christ is a 3* OT and Pete's an undersized OT who has to learn the interior. People on the outside are like, so what... go get Carmody. Which he will finally.

Plus, in 2022 you'll look back and go, "How did Quinn pull that 2021 class inbetween 2019 and the best class in ND history... 2021??? Dude's a freak."



McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.

I only mention jury is still out because this is literally his first full cycle at ND. I think when all is said and done and maybe he has a class of

.9672 4* Tosh Baker
.9416 4* Michael Carmody
.9207 4* Zak Zinter

People will start to understand how good he is at recruiting. I don’t doubt his grind level being higher than Hiestand but I just want to see what he eventually ends up with. I think it will be pretty special by Dec 2021 when the 3 year haul is all signed, sealed and delivered. If they were to land the above 3 that would be 3 6’6”+ dudes added to the roster which is absurd (maybe 6’5”+ if they are lying about their heights but still).
 

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If we are able to pull this off and get Braiden in the fold, then what a recruiting run the past two years. Great job by Elston and staff. However if you want to get depressed go look at what Clemson is doing for their d line this year. We don't even come close to comparing to the recruiting star power they have.

Well they do have that waterfall in the football complex.
 

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Sometimes you just get lucky and have a group of guys who are ND RKG's. Couple that with ND finally going after those kids as early as their rivals and it works out. Offering early, I've harped about this long before my IE days. Do your research, identify your targets, hand offers out like candy & out work the other guys building relationships. It's simple.

These are probably the biggest pieces, especially upping the number of offers.
 

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Nothing wrong with Quinn's recruiting, just the opposite. He's great. When Tosh announces tomorrow all will be good. The guys he's "lost"? Christ and Skoronski... Guys I loved but from the outside Christ is a 3* OT and Pete's an undersized OT who has to learn the interior. People on the outside are like, so what... go get Carmody. Which he will finally.

Plus, in 2022 you'll look back and go, "How did Quinn pull that 2021 class inbetween 2019 and the best class in ND history... 2021??? Dude's a freak."



McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.

I think things are trending well for Braiden, but I don't think it is done by any means..... if so I would think you would see guys like Wiltfong making the switch immediately.. Steve and Loy still talk routinely so if this was known I would guess Loy would have informed Steve hence a CB change, that hasn't happened with Wiltfong
 

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I think things are trending well for Braiden, but I don't think it is done by any means..... if so I would think you would see guys like Wiltfong making the switch immediately.. Steve and Loy still talk routinely so if this was known I would guess Loy would have informed Steve hence a CB change, that hasn't happened with Wiltfong

Or he isn't doing it because then everyone will know the deal and they are going to milk it as long as they can. I was around a group of analysts for one of the networks at Pinnacle last night and it's obvious to me. The network game is a scripted soap opera.
 
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