'20 CO OT Reece Atteberry (Offer)

[OhioIrish31]

automatic protocol with ND crystal balls

This...always happens!

 

[Irish#1]

He tried to commit to OSU but they said no thanks or not right now.

That had to butt hurt.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

He tried to commit to OSU but they said no thanks or not right now.

Is this true or a joke?

 

[rtrn2glory]

i hate this. offers that aren't "commitable" imo aren't true offers.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I hope we get any player the coaches want but his tape is 'meh' to me. Of course, OL aren't finished products at this stage.

 

[Irish#1]

i hate this. offers that aren't "commitable" imo aren't true offers.

I've always wondered what kind of a spin a coach puts on that when they offer, but it's not committable?

 

[NDIrish88]

I hope we get any player the coaches want but his tape is 'meh' to me. Of course, OL aren't finished products at this stage.

Watch his film to Zinters. It is very similar, but this kid can play center if need be and I think he could also play RT because his feet are better than Zinter's. He looks like he moves better and gets off blocks easier. Zinter looks like he lumbers and plays with raw power. Atteberry also has better hands IMO. After Tosh and, hopefully Carmody, I would be happy with either.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

I've always wondered what kind of a spin a coach puts on that when they offer, but it's not committable?

It's the industry standard at this point, so I'm sure most kids get it even if it goes unspoken. Most kids simply don't want to go to a school that's ghosted them in any case. The Sheffield debacle last year is what happens when the kid doesn't get it and coaches fail to put up bumpers.

He tried to commit to OSU but they said no thanks or not right now.

Loy kinda confirmed this, saying he tried to commit early in the process when Urban was still around and was told they wanted to take things slow (sounds like my ex, right boys?). If Loy is to be believed, his souring on OSU has more to do with never clicking with their O-line coach.

OSU is still recruiting him though. He'll visit them June 14, Florida on the 7th, us on the 21st, and make a decision sometime in June. https://247sports.com/college/notre...Pick-Reece-Atteberry-to-Notre-Dame-132021386/

 

[PANDFAN]

i hate this. offers that aren't "commitable" imo aren't true offers.

ND does this as well

 

[fightingirish26]

it's a little tough, i feel like most of the time when a prospect is offered it is in fact committable, but numbers are tight for every team so the circumstances of offers can change daily. a prospect isn't gonna tweet out that their scholarship offer is no longer committable, so we have this list of "offers" that may or may not be effectively accurate.

 

[rtrn2glory]

ND does this as well

right and i still don't like it.

 

[Irish#1]

It's the industry standard at this point, so I'm sure most kids get it even if it goes unspoken. Most kids simply don't want to go to a school that's ghosted them in any case. The Sheffield debacle last year is what happens when the kid doesn't get it and coaches fail to put up bumpers.

Loy kinda confirmed this, saying he tried to commit early in the process when Urban was still around and was told they wanted to take things slow (sounds like my ex, right boys?). If Loy is to be believed, his souring on OSU has more to do with never clicking with their O-line coach.

Agree it's pretty standard, but I'd still like to know what they say when they extend an offer even when they know they aren't going to accept it. Now if they say they will extend an offer if they have room at a certain point or will accept a commit if John Smith doesn't commit, I get that. It's these situations I'm curious about. Of course a kid could be so excited he doesn't hear the fine print when they offer, so that would be different.

 

[BobbyMac]

Agree it's pretty standard, but I'd still like to know what they say when they extend an offer even when they know they aren't going to accept it. Now if they say they will extend an offer if they have room at a certain point or will accept a commit if John Smith doesn't commit, I get that. It's these situations I'm curious about. Of course a kid could be so excited he doesn't hear the fine print when they offer, so that would be different.

I have no idea why they offered John Smith in the first place... horrible film, ran a 5.1 / 40 at the Opening, neither Bama nor Clemson have offered, plays 1A ball vs teams that can't field 11 players, has only completed 1 semester of foreign language and it's Canadian (what's that a boot?) Has decommitted from North Dakota and Kent State and transferred in HS three times and most importantly, his Mom is ugly.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I have no idea why they offered John Smith in the first place... horrible film, ran a 5.1 / 40 at the Opening, neither Bama nor Clemson have offered, plays 1A ball vs teams that can't field 11 players, has only completed 1 semester of foreign language and it's Canadian (what's that a boot?) Has decommitted from North Dakota and Kent State and transferred in HS three times and most importantly, his Mom is ugly.

Also accepted money from an agent to write a term paper for his girlfriend, who happens to be a trainer and cousin of Coach Kelly.

 

[BobbyMac]

Also accepted money from an agent to write a term paper for his girlfriend, who happens to be a trainer and cousin of Coach Kelly.

That and I forgot the most important thing.

Lives in Fresno.

 

[Domina Nostra]

That and I forgot the most important thing.

Lives in Fresno.

Fresno? Dead to me.

 

[BobbyMac]

Fresno? Dead to me.

It's all fun and games until someone says Fresno.

 

[House16]

it's a little tough, i feel like most of the time when a prospect is offered it is in fact committable, but numbers are tight for every team so the circumstances of offers can change daily. a prospect isn't gonna tweet out that their scholarship offer is no longer committable, so we have this list of "offers" that may or may not be effectively accurate.

Yep. With no actual knowledge, I assume that almost every offer is commutable when it’s given out, but that coaches don’t tell players explicitly when that offer is “pulled”. I doubt any coach would give an offer, player would commit on the spot, and then coach would backpedal.

 

[NDMIA]

Yep. With no actual knowledge, I assume that almost every offer is commutable when it’s given out, but that coaches don’t tell players explicitly when that offer is “pulled”. I doubt any coach would give an offer, player would commit on the spot, and then coach would backpedal.

There are some smart alternatives to avoiding quick commitments. Some coaches say, hey come to campus before you decide and we’ll meet face to face about your interest. Others mention waiting on scores even tho most of them have them. There’s a lot of ways to push a kid’s interest down the road.

 

[NDIrish88]

As n FYI, it looks like Rivals posted something about OL recruiting and Driskell thinks that ND will only take 2 OL and then wait and see how numbers shake out. I could not read much behind the paywall but it looks like he thinks that second guy will be Atteberry if he wants it. If I had to choose between him or Carmody, I hate to say this, but I would pick Atteberry because he can play any OL position. Carmody is really a tackle who can play gaurd too. Carmody also wants to play tackle in college and good luck getting around Tosh and the 2021 crew that may come in.

I know this is going to be a small class but this is crazy where OL recruiting is. I am almost wondering if Quinn is going all in for 2021.

 

[rtrn2glory]

I wouldn't say no to Carmody. I feel like slow playing him early on and then not accepting a commitment could lead to some bad feelings down the road.

 

[NDIrish88]

This also base don if Geiran Hatchett actually makes the OV in June. I doubt he will go to ND but even still who knows what could happen in a few months.

 

[fightingirish26]

Find that hard to believe after everything that happened in the past week with Carmody. Why would we offer him if the target was 2 OL? As r2g said, slow playing him just to offer and then almost immediately pushing him out of the plans seems like a bad move.

Also y'all gotta take these numbers tidbits with a grain of salt. All the sudden we're only taking 1 RB, 2 OL and 0 LBs, according to some on this board. Even if you add one Cullen Coleman to those numbers, I still think it's way too conservative and will play out otherwise.

 

[NDMIA]

First off, I think it is 3 for OL and not 2. At one point they were considering Christ, Baker and potentially two inside guys so I don’t think it’ll drop down to 2 all of the sudden especially with Luke Jones leaving early. As far as the recruiting, I think it will happen very quickly in June. I think there will be a race to reserve spots in this class. At this point it seems as though Carmody wants to play with his brother, Reece Atteberry wanted Ohio State but they didn’t want him which leaves ND in his top 2 as the other option and Zak Zinter has been all Notre Dame for a little while both in terms of CB’s and visiting unofficially a bunch of times. I think by June 30th, or a week after the last OV weekend we should know what ND’s OLine class should look like. I’d like to see Carmody and then whatever interior guy ND wants between Atteberry and Zinter. I think they’d prefer Atteberry but I’m not sure.

 

[NDIrish88]

Wasnt saying I agreed with Driskell. Rarely do i agree with that dude. But I thought it was interesting. I agree 3 will be the number

 

[KizerWilhelm]

II podcast guys said ND might be happy taking only two O-linemen this class, which would make Atteberry the odd man out (after Carmody). They also just weren't that hot on him in general.

 

[arrowryan]

II podcast guys said ND might be happy taking only two O-linemen this class, which would make Atteberry the odd man out (after Carmody). They also just weren't that hot on him in general.

I kinda question II's ability to scout the OL. Their evaluation of Tosh was pretty underwhelming.

 

[GBdomer]

IMO Carmody told the staff he is coming and EJ got wind of it and threw up at the Starbucks tweet.

I mean where else is Carmody gonna go?

 

[NDMIA]

IMO Carmody told the staff he is coming and EJ got wind of it and threw up at the Starbucks tweet.

I mean where else is Carmody gonna go?

He’s 2h30m away from the hometown state school who’s recruiting him really hard (Penn State). I don’t think Ohio State is too far away and they’re recruiting him fairly hard as well. I wouldn’t say a guy with 30 FBS offers has nowhere else to go. I do think he ends up at ND but he’s got lots of options.

 

[GBdomer]

He’s 2h30m away from the hometown state school who’s recruiting him really hard (Penn State). I don’t think Ohio State is too far away and they’re recruiting him fairly hard as well. I wouldn’t say a guy with 30 FBS offers has nowhere else to go. I do think he ends up at ND but he’s got lots of options.

I totally understand what you are saying and wasn't trying to discredit Carmody in any way possible. I was just saying he's going to ND and has been the whole time. Waited on his offer, totally cool with it and has just basically said he's coming. If he doesn't chose ND it would honestly be one of the biggest recruiting upsets I've ever seen following ND recruiting.