1983 US-Soviet "War Scare"

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"This declassified US intelligence report from 1990 is one of the most terrifying things you'll ever read"

I'd be interested to hear from some of you who were around in 1983 what the tension was like back then. Did it really feel like war was on the horizon? I was born in '86 so I missed the boat.
 

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I was 15; not completely oblivious to politics, but with only a very rudimentary understanding of it. To start, I don't recall anyone being aware of this as it was unfolding. But, in general terms, I remember people mostly being confident that Reagan would do the right thing and protect us to the best ability that American power and technology made possible.
 

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"This declassified US intelligence report from 1990 is one of the most terrifying things you'll ever read"

I'd be interested to hear from some of you who were around in 1983 what the tension was like back then. Did it really feel like war was on the horizon? I was born in '86 so I missed the boat.

Did you see the declassified report yesterday about how in the 60s or 70s (I forget, I'll go find a link) we almost fired a bunch of nukes by accident? The confirmed, authenticated command to fire came through but the Captain got suspicious because multiple targets weren't hostile nations. He breaks all kinds of rules and refuses to fire... ends up preventing nuclear war.

EDIT: This Heroic Captain Defied His Orders and Stopped America From Starting World War III
 
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I grew up about 45 minutes from an Air Force base in a very politically aware environment. It did seem like one day I was going to look East toward said base and see a mushroom cloud.

The TV show The Day After sure didn't help.
 

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Sting - Russians. 1985
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Survivor-In the Burning Heart 1985
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The Day After - 1983 tv movie
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Popular culture feared a US/USSR confrontation. It wasn't the nuclear drills in schools from the 1950's, but it was there. With Reagan on our side and a quick succession of leaders on the Soviet side, people were afraid of a triggering event in NATO or the Soviet Bloc in Eastern Europe.

Whoops...let's not forget WarGames 1983
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Did you see the declassified report yesterday about how in the 60s or 70s (I forget, I'll go find a link) we almost fired a bunch of nukes by accident? The confirmed, authenticated command to fire came through but the Captain got suspicious because multiple targets weren't hostile nations. He breaks all kinds of rules and refuses to fire... ends up preventing nuclear war.

EDIT: This Heroic Captain Defied His Orders and Stopped America From Starting World War III

Wow, that's absolutely crazy. Those guys were heroes.
 

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Here's what I remember [given a little joggling via Soviet history]:

A). Brezhnev [a hard@ss] had just died [some wondered if his successor, Andropov, had assassinated him];
B). We weren't very clear on what sort of guy Andropov was [esp. as an ex-head of the KGB];
C). Lech Walesa was bravely thumbing Poland's nose at the weakening USSR, causing US intel people to think that some sort of gesture of support for such a crumbling of the USSR should be made;
D). The Defense Department decided upon a plan, not secret so Andropov et al knew about it, to deploy nuclear warhead Pershing missiles in Europe --- did not make Andropov happy;
E). USSR didn't want the grief especially as they were fighting what was by then viewed as a stupid mistaken war in Afghanistan which was draining them for no gain [which is why much later Russia thought WE were crazy];
F). Reagan then decided to throw two turds in the punchbowl: 1]. he called the Soviet Union "The Evil Empire", which would have been "OK" [sticks and stones and all that] if he had not followed it up with "G"; "G" made the idea of a US first strike on the USSR feasible;
G).2]. Reagan then announced his Strategic Defense Initiative. The SDI or "Star Wars" was clearly a violation of the nuclear agreement between the superpowers. Reagan of course didn't care. The rest of the world was nearly entirely against this, as if the USA could create an effective missile shield in space, then the tactical nukes being imagined in Europe could more easily be decided to be used. Not only was Andropov terrorized by this [he knew that the USSR could not match us in space either technically or economically], but the Europeans were at least as terrorized as they would be unshielded and on the front lines. People in the US tended to adore Reagan as tough on commies, whereas he in fact almost brought us to war far in advance of the SDI being able to be built.

What we paeans in the real world knew [if we were paying attention] were Walesa's movement, the USSRs nervousness, and the risky dice-rolling of the SDI idea, which many technical people [myself included as a sideline bystander] realized was many years off and several breakthroughs away from being workable. This collection of developments made most of us in academia believe that our beloved President was insane on this one, or some very persuasive advisors were. We were all for supporting Lech Walesa some way, but not via tactical nukes nor Star Wars fantasies. We all hated MADD as a policy, but it had at least worked by making throwing nukes unthinkable. SDI would eliminate MADD [good] but do so by making nuclear war easier to decide to launch [very bad].
 

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By 1988-89, The tension that Able Archer created in '83 was widely known by the intelligence community and the academics that mingled in that world. What I didn't see mentioned in my quick skim was the levels of paranoia that Reagan's SDI - Star Wars created in early '83. It was CW in the West that the Soviets thought SDI was much further along than just Reagan announcing that he wanted to develop it. Add the Able Archer exercise to that year's tension plus the Soviet's realization that it's economic ability to keep pace with the West's spending and we really were living in numbered days. Mutually assured destruction was what both sides relied upon to keep the other side from attempting a first strike. What the West feared was Soviet leadership giving up the race, and firing first when they accepted they were defeated economically fearing the US would immediately launch when it smelled blood. One of my US - Soviet Relations projects was on 1983 and how it was the beginning of the end of the Soviet system.
 
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I was in HS in 83 and wasn't paying a lot of attention to what was really going on, but I do remember having war drills similar to today's fire drills. We really felt the threat was real. Being in SW Ohio I do remember our Government teacher talking about us as a major target. We had all of these facilities within 50 miles of us:

A steel manufacturer that had government contracts

Fernald - which fabricated uranium fuel cores for the U.S. nuclear weapons production complex

Mound Laboratories - an atomic energy commission facility for nuclear research. (This is where the neutron generating triggers for the first plutonium bombs were developed.)

Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

It didn't feel like war was imminent, but it was certainly in the backs of our minds.
 
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When i was in Kindergarten and first grade I remember the drills of getting under my desk or quietly walking to the basement of the school during bomb drills. I remember asking my mom if my desk (or the basement) would actually save me. That was the late sixties. In the eighties I was in college and I remember thinking Regan (now my favorite President behind Lincoln) was just crazy enough to start something with the USSR...and it was scary. The Miracle on Ice sent our campus crazy. "Mr. Gorbochov tear down that wall" was my favorite line from that decade.
 

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In 1983 I had just finished a BA majoring in political science and Russian. I had begun an MA in Political Science, with a Soviet studies emphasis.

While the article doesn't stress it, many knew at that time that President Reagan was pursuing a conscious policy of placing pressure on the Soviet Union. He understood, as did Andropov, that the Soviet economy was in trouble. Thus, while the risk of accident was serious, and many thought Reagan's dream of pressuring the Soviets to collapse was dangerous, others believed it was about time.

Clearly the Washington Post reporter was in the latter camp and wishes to portray the Reagan administration as reckless. What he doesn't remind the reader of was the half dozen other crises stimulated by Soviet aggression including the Berlin Crisis, the first Polish crisis, the 1956 Hungarian crisis, the Cuban missile crisis, and the 1968 Czechoslovakian invasion.

This incident was newsworthy as many didn't realize the extent which the Soviet saw the US as threatening, but the opposite was also clearly true.
 

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My civics class my senior year of HS was quite enlightening, and occasionally deeply disturbing. Always a lively discussion. Some of us were convinced we would eventually get drafted .... A scary proposition, fighting the Evil Empire. 83 RULES!!!
 
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