'19 NV QB Cade McNamara (Michigan Verbal)

[beryirish]

Bama has at least 2 QBs higher on their board than Cade according to 247, and I don't see how they miss on Tyson given his family ties. Georgia is a more interesting case because 247 has Cade as their TOP QB target, but that offer didn't seem to get people as worried as the Bama one.

If people think Cade is worried about PJ being ahead of him...well Georgia's got Justin Fields.

 

[zelezo vlk]

If people think Cade is worried about PJ being ahead of him...well Georgia's got Justin Fields.

And SC (if they offer) has JT Daniels

 

[BobbyMac]

ND's been looking around anyways so I won't jump on McNamara for taking his 95% committed stance.

You gotta look around some more now. Just tell him, "We're only going to do a 5% QB search to compensate for your lack of commitment."

Hank Bachmeier makes the most sense. Same conference as Jack Lamb. During his sophomore year, Dad took him on one visit outside of SoCal and that was to ND. Plus the Catholic card may be in play here.

Also throw in Garrett Schrader, Max Duggan, Gunner Cruz and maybe the one who's getting back channeled right now, Conor Bazelak from feeder Archbishop Alter. Staff on him recently.

I think they could possibly get Bazelak or Cruz and still keep McNamara. Bachmeier not so much.

 

[Luckylucci]

You can't compare the two because simply...they are different people. Just because PJ went about it the ideal way that every ND fan wants them to because it keeps them warm inside and from melting down doesn't mean other kids should too. Or that if they don't then there's no way that they are sticking to their commitment.

The theory of him keeping the door open for his school could be the case that some people are mentioning. Some say well that could have an adverse effect on recruiting when his intention is to promote ND recruiting. But also remember that the kid can/will visit camps with these prospects, visit ND with these prospects, DM each other on twitter/facebook. He could simply tell them this reasoning behind closed doors from us to see.

That actually is precisely the point. There is a way that ND's staff wants their recruits to act. It's precisely why they recruit the way they do. I thought we all knew that by now. Jayson A was being HEAVILY recruited by OSU and Bama throughout his recruitment, you didn't see the same type of interviews on those. Michigan was all over Derrik Allen, you didn't see the same type of interviews there. The list goes on and on.

And nobody is melting down here, just because I've posted on it quite a few times does not mean a meltdown. Actually I find this rather interesting, hence my interest in posting on it. Simply put, this is not how the staff wants Cade to act, I can all but guarantee that, and if this drags out much longer, I'd treat it as he's not committed.

Really like the player, let's hope it doesn't come to that, but I'd rather have a de-commit now, than in the future when we can do less about it.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

ND's been looking around anyways so I won't jump on McNamara for taking his 95% committed stance.

You gotta look around some more now. Just tell him, "We're only going to do a 5% QB search to compensate for your lack of commitment."

Hank Bachmeier makes the most sense. Same conference as Jack Lamb. During his sophomore year, Dad took him on one visit outside of SoCal and that was to ND. Plus the Catholic card may be in play here.

Also throw in Garrett Schrader, Max Duggan, Gunner Cruz and maybe the one who's getting back channeled right now, Conor Bazelak from feeder Archbishop Alter. Staff on him recently.

I think they could possibly get Bazelak or Cruz and still keep McNamara. Bachmeier not so much.

What about Schrader? I really like his film. Accurate, athletic, and it looks like he runs a lot of RPOs, so he could probably get the system pretty quickly.

 

[PANDFAN]

visiting for spring game ---per 247

 

[beryirish]

That actually is precisely the point. There is a way that ND's staff wants their recruits to act. It's precisely why they recruit the way they do. I thought we all knew that by now. Jayson A was being HEAVILY recruited by OSU and Bama throughout his recruitment, you didn't see the same type of interviews on those. Michigan was all over Derrik Allen, you didn't see the same type of interviews there. The list goes on and on.

And nobody is melting down here, just because I've posted on it quite a few times does not mean a meltdown. Actually, I find this rather interesting, hence my interest in posting on it. Simply put, this is not how the staff wants Cade to act, I can all but guarantee that, and if this drags out much longer, I'd treat it as he's not committed.

Really like the player, let's hope it doesn't come to that, but I'd rather have a de-commit now, than in the future when we can do less about it.

Cade said "I'm still committed but it's definitely something big for me." - regarding being offered by the best college football legacy team of all time. That would be big for a lot of kids.

He also said "I'm still committed to Notre Dame, I would put it at about 95% right but I'll still listen to what these schools have to say and play the process out." He's 18 and only has a year to fully decide what his future is going to be like.

After that you have 2-3 pages of what other QB's is ND in it with!!!! Not you directly.

Was Shayne Simon still hearing from Michigan after committing to ND? Or the twins with Ohio State. Or maybe even Allen with Georgia. Our coaches never stop recruiting i.e. Houston and 3 decommitments to ND on NSD. So it's not hard to believe that other teams don't stop either. Doesn't mean that our kids weren't 100%. But it also doesn't mean that they weren't 95%. The issue is that these kids never spoke it public. Cade was interviewed and that's what he said to everyone. The kid is a kid, interviewers have their ways to get kids to say things. The interviewer probably asked him how committed are you right now and that's what he said. Doesn't mean he's not a RKG for ND. How are they supposed to act? Kid sounded very well spoken and unbashful on TV. He's taken interviews and telling them how he feels. Does ND want him to lie and say nope, shut it down i'm 100% committed and all these other schools can bite it. Of course not. That's doing his future a disservice.

Disclosure is that I don't know if he will sign or not. I hope he does for the obvious reasons but putting that much into two quotes is blowing it up IMO.

 

[irish4ever]

visiting for spring game ---per 247

Lock solid then!

 

[snoopdog]

visiting for spring game ---per 247

has he announced which teams spring game he will visit, and with or without a percentage attached?

 

[Luckylucci]

Cade said "I'm still committed but it's definitely something big for me." - regarding being offered by the best college football legacy team of all time. That would be big for a lot of kids.

He also said "I'm still committed to Notre Dame, I would put it at about 95% right but I'll still listen to what these schools have to say and play the process out." He's 18 and only has a year to fully decide what his future is going to be like.

After that you have 2-3 pages of what other QB's is ND in it with!!!! Not you directly.

Was Shayne Simon still hearing from Michigan after committing to ND? Or the twins with Ohio State. Or maybe even Allen with Georgia. Our coaches never stop recruiting i.e. Houston and 3 decommitments to ND on NSD. So it's not hard to believe that other teams don't stop either. Doesn't mean that our kids weren't 100%. But it also doesn't mean that they weren't 95%. The issue is that these kids never spoke it public. Cade was interviewed and that's what he said to everyone. The kid is a kid, interviewers have their ways to get kids to say things. The interviewer probably asked him how committed are you right now and that's what he said. Doesn't mean he's not a RKG for ND. How are they supposed to act? Kid sounded very well spoken and unbashful on TV. He's taken interviews and telling them how he feels. Does ND want him to lie and say nope, shut it down i'm 100% committed and all these other schools can bite it. Of course not. That's doing his future a disservice.

Disclosure is that I don't know if he will sign or not. I hope he does for the obvious reasons but putting that much into two quotes is blowing it up IMO.

Cool, and I agree, I never said he had to commit to ND or that he has to stay committed. I just said that if he's going to do this, I'd treat him as if he's uncommitted. Somehow, that is very troublesome for you.

At this point, we should certainly be doing that. Or at least preparing to do it post Spring Game. Maybe wait and see how that visit goes.

I specifically gave some of these examples already and now you are proving my point for me. This is vastly different than how those other recruits handle their respective situation, and that is the point. You don't need to run around and tell the media how great other programs are and what percent committed you are, IF, you are committed to ND. Again, this is precisely why ND has their recruiting policy. If you do this, we treat you as uncommitted, and that's fine. Just like it's fine if Cade wants to do this, we'll react accordingly. Nobody is upset here. Just stating the HUGE differences in the handling of these situations.

Just like A LOT of interviewers asked Jayson A, Derrik Allen, etc. and they didn't give the same responses. Again, that's the point.

He seems like a great kid, NEVER said he wasn't. There are A LOT of great kids out there. But that has nothing to do with this. ND isn't recruiting every swell kid out there. ND doesn't need their QB commit talking up other programs to the media and announcing what percent, below 100, that he is. If you like the player that much, recruit the heck out of him, but make sure you are recruiting other players, and make that well known as well.

It's more than those two quotes but I'm not going to go into that. I'm out on this. Cheers.

 

[BobbyMac]

What about Schrader? I really like his film. Accurate, athletic, and it looks like he runs a lot of RPOs, so he could probably get the system pretty quickly.

I like Shrader a lot. I think he's the most Phil-like for 2019. I don't think ND could pull McNamara and Shrader in the same class though, don't think anyone could. Shrader's gonna be someone's undisputed #1 QB. Morehead from Hail St has a good relationship with him. PSU led for him when he was there.

 

[BobbyMac]

Rees was in KC and went in to see Graham Mertz not too long ago. They have been in non-stop contact with Bear Bryant III. They're either not satisfied with Cade's level of commitment or they want a second. If the latter is true, maybe that is now the problem.

I've said it before, if I were a QB prospect that felt undervalued and ND would accept my commitment, I'd jump on it immediately even if I didn't care for ND. I'd ride the wave that ND lovers and haters would provide me through social media.

McNamara and Blake Barnett share a lot of similarities with their ND commitments. I hope they end differently because I'd like Cade to end up in South Bend. Don't get me wrong, in a perfect world I'd swap Bachmaeier for McNamara but to get there you incur a lot of risk and work and it's not worth it. I'd much rather have Cade wrapped up and concentrate on getting Steele Chambers to play LB and Brandon Smith to play WDE.

 

[beryirish]

Cool, and I agree, I never said he had to commit to ND or that he has to stay committed. I just said that if he's going to do this, I'd treat him as if he's uncommitted. Somehow, that is very troublesome for you.

At this point, we should certainly be doing that. Or at least preparing to do it post Spring Game. Maybe wait and see how that visit goes.

I specifically gave some of these examples already and now you are proving my point for me. This is vastly different than how those other recruits handle their respective situation, and that is the point. You don't need to run around and tell the media how great other programs are and what percent committed you are, IF, you are committed to ND. Again, this is precisely why ND has their recruiting policy. If you do this, we treat you as uncommitted, and that's fine. Just like it's fine if Cade wants to do this, we'll react accordingly. Nobody is upset here. Just stating the HUGE differences in the handling of these situations.

Just like A LOT of interviewers asked Jayson A, Derrik Allen, etc. and they didn't give the same responses. Again, that's the point.

He seems like a great kid, NEVER said he wasn't. There are A LOT of great kids out there. But that has nothing to do with this. ND isn't recruiting every swell kid out there. ND doesn't need their QB commit talking up other programs to the media and announcing what percent, below 100, that he is. If you like the player that much, recruit the heck out of him, but make sure you are recruiting other players, and make that well known as well.

It's more than those two quotes but I'm not going to go into that. I'm out on this. Cheers.

It's not "troublesome" for me in the tone that I took that.

I guess the disconnect is the "known" recruiting policy. The only policy I've ever heard was Michigan not allowing commits to visit other schools. Is this a legit known fact amongst recruits/commits?

He's not "running around." He's not going to his local news station saying "before you begin I just want to say I was offered by Alabama and they are a great school..." -- He was asked the questions. Same with Biggins - he was asked the questions. Even seemed like that woman loved Bama. Should he be like Marshawn Lynch and say "next question...next question."

You didn't see this from the twins or Allen or anyone because they ALREADY HAD those offers. So they talk about Top 10's and Top 5's then they commit. Cade's situation is completely backward.

Didn't accuse you of saying he's not a great kid.

He's never posted on his twitter that he got offered by these schools. His description is Irish. His pic is Irish. His pin is Irish. He only tweets Irish/UA/his school.

As he's getting interviewed I'm sure the question pops up, What new schools have offered you? Oh, this school and that school. Oh really - tell me about those schools. Then the website gets updated.

The 95% article even says how he has a great relationship with Rees and loved the campus, gush about this ND gush about that ND. But all eyes go to 95%.

If the coaching staff is as worked up on the 95% comment as we are they should certainly have a coming to Jesus meeting with him on his commitment. I'm sure he's already aware that they were possibly going with 2 QB's this cycle. But I bet the staff has to word it carefully to not make him think that they consider him uncommitted if it were to rub him the wrong way and next thing you know the staff tried to fix something that wasn't broken in the first place but they thought they heard a squeak.

Are the "it's more than two quotes" public knowledge? If not, then I feel I'm debating against a stacked deck.

Actions speak louder than words. And right now, he's visiting...ND in April.

 

[mango4]

Decommited

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: QB Cade McNamara de-commits from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a>.<a href="https://t.co/0WTSvusSZD">https://t.co/0WTSvusSZD</a> <a href="https://t.co/OnGbjqReqW">pic.twitter.com/OnGbjqReqW</a></p>— Kevin Sinclair (@KevinSinclair_) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinSinclair_/status/969678523383234560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Henges24]

Just a random guess but I’m sure Kelly and Co didn’t take kindly to his 95% commited comment and told him to shit or get off the pot.

 

[Ndaccountant]

 

[Southside Sully]

See ya

 

[Irish YJ]

well that escalated quickly. from 95 to 0.....

 

[beryirish]

Hahahaha well fuck.

 

[beryirish]

...

It's more than those two quotes but I'm not going to go into that. I'm out on this. Cheers.

You could have just said, "I KNOW he's de-committing."

 

[irish o'phile]

Shocking.

 

[PANDFAN]

just remember when it comes to college recruiting when there is smoke there is a fire...every damn time

 

[NDty9]

I do realize how important the QB position is, However......

With PJ comin in this year, a whole lot of time to recruit another 2019 QB andddddddddd The way we are KILLLLLING IT in Defensive recruiting, I am NOT going to let this one get me down!

(trying my best to be positive! ha)

 

[BobbyMac]

Rees was in KC and went in to see Graham Mertz not too long ago. They have been in non-stop contact with Bear Bryant III. They're either not satisfied with Cade's level of commitment or they want a second. If the latter is true, maybe that is now the problem.

I've said it before, if I were a QB prospect that felt undervalued and ND would accept my commitment, I'd jump on it immediately even if I didn't care for ND. I'd ride the wave that ND lovers and haters would provide me through social media.

McNamara and Blake Barnett share a lot of similarities with their ND commitments. I hope they end differently because I'd like Cade to end up in South Bend. Don't get me wrong, in a perfect world I'd swap Bachmaeier for McNamara but to get there you incur a lot of risk and work and it's not worth it. I'd much rather have Cade wrapped up and concentrate on getting Steele Chambers to play LB and Brandon Smith to play WDE.

Well turns out, they share every similarity.

I hope ND cut it off with him and for once, doesn't take the high road and lets the info out.

Now we get to go shopping! Time for Kelly/Long/Polian to slide into Bachmeier's DM's.

 

[pumpdog20]

gotta appreciate the eye the staff had on this one at least.

 

[snoopdog]

with Book a RS soph and PJ a Frosh...where and when does McNamara play?

Right decision for all involved.

Hopefully he ends up at a mid tier Pac 12 school so he can play early

 

[snoopdog]

Actually....he may go from the frying pan to the fire and commit to Bama or Georgia

 

[BoredIrish]

with Book a RS soph and PJ a Frosh...where and when does McNamara play?

Right decision for all involved.

Hopefully he ends up at a mid tier Pac 12 school so he can play early

USC?

 

[KizerWilhelm]

coooooool, glad he's an EE and is out there actively recruiting for us

How is it always, always that kid?

 

[Irishize]