'19 NJ DE RJ Oben (Duke Grad Transfer - Notre Dame Verbal)

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Who saw this coming lol

I have no idea how their grading works (or doesn't work) but comparing across different position groups seems even more silly lol

Anyway - hats off to Oben what a way to redeem a season through one game (one play especially).
 

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I am glad to see that he had a good game. But there’s no way he played better than Schuler.
 

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Wishful thinking on my part but it would be amazing if this performance lit a fire under him and he finally looks like the player we thought he was gonna be in this final stretch when we need it the most.
 

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Wishful thinking on my part but it would be amazing if this performance lit a fire under him and he finally looks like the player we thought he was gonna be in this final stretch when we need it the most.
I’ve always been of the mindset that if you can do it once, you can do it again. Maybe he just needed to see himself do it again. Confidence is a hell of a drug.
 

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It's at minimum a 12 game season. Lots of football to be played. Lots of time for any player, transfer or not, to make their impact. Y'all want to grouch and moan, you can, but it's time to turn the page to Purdue. It's a new game, a new day for a player like Oben to improve his play.
Bumping this post from Canada, post niu. Spot on.
While we can all agree he didn't have the JJB pt. II season we were hoping for, that single play was worth whatever they paid him.
 

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He was a non-factor during the regular season...but the light finally turned on for him in the playoffs. Made some big plays.
 

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IIRC, he put on weight intentionally to get bigger & it slowed him down.
That would actually make sense why he looked his best in the post season due to losing weight throughout the regular season. I also think it took him a decent amount of time to pickup Golden’s defense, to much time to pick it up imo.
 

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IIRC, he put on weight intentionally to get bigger & it slowed him down.
DEs come in varying body styles. Your rush ends are generally leaner and quicker and your strong side ends are generally a bit bigger so that they can support in the run game and set the edge against an OT.

Now maybe Oben was slight and wanted to put on some weight to be an every down DE in the NFL…but I feel like generally our staff has been super unsuccessful in trying to have guys add weight to play a different position or in a different style than their body type actually allows.
 

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I was hoping Oben would be the JJB of 23 team this past season, but nice to see him have a nice week at the senior bowl.
 

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I think like Obe’s improvement NDFan2008 is becoming a better poster since his DT melt down ended. I say we keep mocking him about the DT stuff but otherwise let him back into the club.
 

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DEs come in varying body styles. Your rush ends are generally leaner and quicker and your strong side ends are generally a bit bigger so that they can support in the run game and set the edge against an OT.

Now maybe Oben was slight and wanted to put on some weight to be an every down DE in the NFL…but I feel like generally our staff has been super unsuccessful in trying to have guys add weight to play a different position or in a different style than their body type actually allows.
I think it depends on how the guy's body can naturally adapt to the added weight. Riley Mills added 20-30 lbs between 2022 and 2023 and his game took off. His body was probably better to play at 300 than 280. Traore, Burnham, and Tuihalamaka are other examples of guys gaining weight and developing into better players.

FWIW, I think Rubio and Hinish both sneakily added 25+ lbs since Washington took over and it seems to have helped their games quite a bit.
 

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That would actually make sense why he looked his best in the post season due to losing weight throughout the regular season. I also think it took him a decent amount of time to pickup Golden’s defense, to much time to pick it up imo.
The strip sack against Georgia made whatever his nil acquisition worth it, but damn, he was downright bad at the start of the season.

You'd think if he was shit in camp, they woulda asked him to cut some lbs of they thought that was the issue.

One of the few times where pay for production in the portal didn't quite hit in the way expected.
 
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