'18 MD DT PJ Mustipher (Penn State Verbal)

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When I played back in the day, and from coaches I talked to. If a coach doesn't get on you then he doesn't care about your potential.

When a coach holds you accountable it's because he knows you are better than the way you played.

I don't necessarily like a coach calling someone out but it is what it is.

Granted i never played on national tv but i definitely had my share of coaches yell at me. It's part of the sport. Even worse when your parent coaches you.
 

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Can't blame any kid that doesn't want to play for Kelly.

He's just wasting talent and losing to inferior teams.
 

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Kind of a joke but not really; Kelly knows he's gone and is intentionally sabotaging things for the next coach

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This isn't the first time Kelly has thrown one of his players under the bus and his old players from CMU a guy who posts on the MB all the time whenever he can will remind everyone how much the team didn't like him and how big of a piece of shit the guy is. Him throwing Sam under the bus was just bullshit and how many former players have taken shots on twitter about Kelly this year? Have you seen anyone back him up maybe besides Joe Schmidt? Probably because Kelly was the only guy who had that kids back

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Hegarty

Have all taken shots at Kelly this week alone

What he did to Sam yesterday was 100% bush league and I am totally done with it
 

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The snapping was terrible. Anyone with half a brain could see that. It affected the game for sure.
 

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This isn't the first time Kelly has thrown one of his players under the bus and his old players from CMU a guy who posts on the MB all the time whenever he can will remind everyone how much the team didn't like him and how big of a piece of shit the guy is. Him throwing Sam under the bus was just bullshit and how many former players have taken shots on twitter about Kelly this year? Have you seen anyone back him up maybe besides Joe Schmidt? Probably because Kelly was the only guy who had that kids back

John Turner
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Hegarty

Have all taken shots at Kelly this week alone

What he did to Sam yesterday was 100% bush league and I am totally done with it


You are wrong GB. Did you watch or read the press conference? He did not throw anyone under the bus. He never once mentioned Sam's name. He never once said the reason the team lost was because of poor snaps. Here is exactly what he said:
"I'm just extremely disappointed in the offensive execution and lack of ability to manage the snapping of the football," Kelly said, "which was atrocious."

He was stating the obvious.

I feel like you did not watch or read the press conference and are assuming that he threw Sam under the bus based on what others have said.

Pretty interesting the three former players you mentioned did not finish out their time at ND...

The snapping was terrible. Anyone with half a brain could see that. It affected the game for sure.



Exactly.


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Is that all he said? I assumed from the clickybait headlines that he was guilty of something. That's nothing. So sick of today's media. You spend more time trying to find out the truth instead of someone just reporting the facts from the get.
 

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You are wrong GB. Did you watch or read the press conference? He did not throw anyone under the bus. He never once mentioned Sam's name. He never once said the reason the team lost was because of poor snaps. Here is exactly what he said:
"I'm just extremely disappointed in the offensive execution and lack of ability to manage the snapping of the football," Kelly said, "which was atrocious."

He was stating the obvious.

I feel like you did not watch or read the press conference and are assuming that he threw Sam under the bus based on what others have said.

Pretty interesting the three former players you mentioned did not finish out their time at ND...





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Yes, the snapping was terrible and everyone knows it but did he need to air it out in a press conference? He for sure called out Sam without mentioning Sams name. Just like if he would have said "We threw the ball today and it was terrible" That would be him calling out Kizer without mentioning his name. Why are we even snapping the ball from the shotgun formation in the first place? We couldn't have gone under center and snapped the ball and ran it? The gameplan yesterday was atrocious and like Kelly stated that's on him but per the usual there was no adjustments to do something different mid game.
 
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This isn't the first time Kelly has thrown one of his players under the bus and his old players from CMU a guy who posts on the MB all the time whenever he can will remind everyone how much the team didn't like him and how big of a piece of shit the guy is. Him throwing Sam under the bus was just bullshit and how many former players have taken shots on twitter about Kelly this year? Have you seen anyone back him up maybe besides Joe Schmidt? Probably because Kelly was the only guy who had that kids back

John Turner
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Hegarty

Have all taken shots at Kelly this week alone

What he did to Sam yesterday was 100% bush league and I am totally done with it

I watched the press conference and he didn't throw anyone under the bus. That's just a rediculous narrative. As to the former players "not liking him" and taking "shots" on Twitter, that's the definition of "bush league" in my opinion. First and foremost because it does nothing to benefit Notre Dame what so ever. It's particularly stupid coming from some guy who didn't do squat on the field or the classroom and failed to graduate. That guy should just enjoy his time in Calagary or wherever he is and shut his pie-hole.
 
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GBdomer

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I watched the press conference a he didn't throw anyone under the bus. That's just a rediculous narrative. As to the former players "not liking him" and taking "shots" on Twitter, that's the definition of "bush league" in my opinion. First and foremost because it does nothing to benefit Notre Dame what so ever. It's particularly stupid coming from some guy who didn't do squat on the field or the classroom and failed to graduate. That guy should just enjoy his time in Calagary or wherever he is and shut his pie-hole.

I for some reason am taking it he was taking a shot at Sam without calling him out. Maybe not throwing him under the bus maybe poor choice of words on my end but he seemed to point the finger at the wrong person. Sure Sam's snapping was terrible yesterday no doubt but why are we running so many passes and doing it all from the shotgun in the first place in those weather conditions? I get that's our offense but IMO there should have been adjustments
 

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I for some reason am taking it he was taking a shot at Sam without calling him out. Maybe not throwing him under the bus maybe poor choice of words on my end but he seemed to point the finger at the wrong person. Sure Sam's snapping was terrible yesterday no doubt but why are we running so many passes and doing it all from the shotgun in the first place in those weather conditions? I get that's our offense but IMO there should have been adjustments

Did you really need to ask that question?
 

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I for some reason am taking it he was taking a shot at Sam without calling him out. Maybe not throwing him under the bus maybe poor choice of words on my end but he seemed to point the finger at the wrong person. Sure Sam's snapping was terrible yesterday no doubt but why are we running so many passes and doing it all from the shotgun in the first place in those weather conditions? I get that's our offense but IMO there should have been adjustments

This was actually asked and he stated that they warmed up with Kizer under center and both Sam and him did not look comfortable since they rarely do it and felt they had a better option of success staying with the shotgun. Right or wrong, they did look at both and made a decision. Addressing the shotgun question not why so many passes.
 

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I don't think that was throwing anyone under the bus, if Sam thinks he is being thrown under the bus maybe D1 football isn't for him
 

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NC State was in the shotgun most of their snaps as well. I know they weren't perfect but how did their center compare?
 

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NC State was in the shotgun most of their snaps as well. I know they weren't perfect but how did their center compare?

IMO they had some bad snaps as well but not nearly as many as we had. Off the top of my head I can remember two where Kizer didn't even get the ball and four others where he did a good job to snag the ball from over his head.
 

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I don't think that was throwing anyone under the bus, if Sam thinks he is being thrown under the bus maybe D1 football isn't for him

This is my thought as well. He is a 5 star athlete. I am sure he has had a coach get in his face when he messed up and it should not be an issue. I do not believe Mike Frank's assessment on anything BK related because he has made it pretty obvious (or at least it seems that way to me) that he wants BK gone.
 

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why would pj care what kelly has to say anyway, he's probably not gonna be the coach by the time pj would be a freshman
 

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Those who think Kelly will be fired after this season and believe it are completely running outside of reality. It's tiring and annoying to constantly see on here.
 

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This isn't the first time Kelly has thrown one of his players under the bus and his old players from CMU a guy who posts on the MB all the time whenever he can will remind everyone how much the team didn't like him and how big of a piece of shit the guy is. Him throwing Sam under the bus was just bullshit and how many former players have taken shots on twitter about Kelly this year? Have you seen anyone back him up maybe besides Joe Schmidt? Probably because Kelly was the only guy who had that kids back

John Turner
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Hegarty

Have all taken shots at Kelly this week alone

What he did to Sam yesterday was 100% bush league and I am totally done with it

Very well said.
 

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Those who think Kelly will be fired after this season and believe it are completely running outside of reality. It's tiring and annoying to constantly see on here.

Don't get too set in your thinking. I will tell you there are some very deep pockets that are quite unhappy. I won't mention names but one is on a building.

He deserves to be let go. Will he? Who knows.

As a Bears fan I can tell you that I used to say, If we get rid of Cutler, who do we replace him with? Well after 8 years I'm like, who cares. Put Cutler & Kelly on the next train outta town. My teams both need an enema.
 

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Don't get too set in your thinking. I will tell you there are some very deep pockets that are quite unhappy. I won't mention names but one is on a building.

He deserves to be let go. Will he? Who knows.

As a Bears fan I can tell you that I used to say, If we get rid of Cutler, who do we replace him with? Well after 8 years I'm like, who cares. Put Cutler & Kelly on the next train outta town. My teams both need an enema.

I will bet all my Vbucks and suspend all my posting for 2017 (other than the congratulatory welcome aboard post) that Kelly can lose out the rest of the season and he will be on ND's sideline at the start of 2017 (....fired...not leave on his own terms.)
 
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