'17 GA DE/OLB Robert Beal (Georgia Verbal)

[NDgradstudent]

I'm assuming BK will be kicking down admissions door first thing in the am? Serious power play by this family if this is the deal. I kinda like it.

How many free additional admits should recruits get?

 

[BobbyMac]

6-2 DE's are a dime a dozen. Throw out 10 offers tomorrow.

 

[BobbyMac]

Ohio state is killing us in recruiting lately, I'm not gonna say Michigan is because I liked our 2016 class better. It's sad when ND can't even get kids with ties to the program. Kids like beak and Haskell garret from BG. I bet you the younger st brown ends up at Stanford

Hey Francis, your mascara is running.

 

[Crazy Balki]

According to Loy sister can'tgain admission right now and they really want to go to school together.

So you're saying, BVG joined the admissions board recently?

 

[drake29]

Hey Francis, your mascara is running.

Well - ND has had a great start at positions they pretty much always start strong at - OL and TE. But he's right - ND looks like they won't get any of the Bishop Gorman kids, Paris Ford, Isaiah Pryor, Robert Beal, or Hunter Johnson. That doesn't mean those kids can't change their mind or that ND can't still sign a great class - it just looks like it will take a lot more work than everyone expected.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

How many free additional admits should recruits get?

Doesn't everyone get a plus one??? I wasn't being serious, just feels like this is a leverage play of some kind. Then again I think the worst of everyone and the world is out to get me.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

It doesn't help when our defense looks like a complete shitshow during games. Defensive players notice that.


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I blame BVG. No gangster.


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Looking at our d under van gorder, would you want to play in it?

Tough to disagree. Neg recruiting is easy these days on our defense.

Yep 17 could end up like 12 if we don't cut our defensive playbook in half and Fire BVG pronto. Cost us two 5 stars in February

There's got to be a Sanford-like rising star that could Co-DC out there? We need a hot shot recruiter that can relate to the kids on that side of the ball. The 70's style porn star look with angry face ain't cutting it. Watching the Fiesta Bowl I got countless texts from Osu friends who had never seen BVG before and were ripping his look and defense bad. Was hard to disagree.


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Ohio state is killing us in recruiting lately, I'm not gonna say Michigan is because I liked our 2016 class better. It's sad when ND can't even get kids with ties to the program. Kids like beak and Haskell garret from BG. I bet you the younger st brown ends up at Stanford

You guys are all kidding, right?

If not, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Really, most of you are great guys, most of the time. But under fire here, you have turned into a bunch of whiney, pedantic beyatches. Really. Did you read your own posts?

I would be embarrassed if I thought any of these things, let alone wrote them!

And this isn't about a personal attack. Just the opposite. Next time you may think about throwing a temper tantrum because your wittle feelings awr huwt, or you have penis envy, or whatever. Especially when you say such nonsensical things, things that some recruits that check threads may not appreciate very much. Kids with whom it may work out in the long run. Or if it doesn't it's all for the best. In which case I still find merit leaving everyone with a favorable impression.

Of course you guys wouldn't want to play for a VanGorder defense, but of course these young kids that will probably be making millions playing in the NFL in a few years, that don't have the luxury of your wisdom, might see an advantage in learning NFL schemes and techniques in college.

And of course, I have never seen a 'complete shit show' before, or an incomplete one for that matter. I tend I find myself flushing early and often.

However, if I take a second to imagine one, I doubt it looks anything like our defense.

Interesting one of the words I guarantee isn't ever used around the Gug, is so liberally and freely applied here : blame. I would bet my life that the word and concept of 'responsibility' is all that is used in the Irish program.

You see that is a sign of winners, those that freely make mistakes, admit them, and learn from them, which is a great way to get better. Unlike those with whom the minute there is a bump in the road, which conflicts with their fantasy world, run around like their pants are on fire.

so kid decommits because his sister wont gain admission and we go on a fire BVG rant....

Thanks, Bud, every time I read some of this bilious redundant narrative, (same old same old due to lack of imagination, among other things,) it brings me back round hearing your common sense logic. Please continue to point out the petulant pansy's petards!

 

[GBdomer]

Ohio state is killing us in recruiting lately, I'm not gonna say Michigan is because I liked our 2016 class better. It's sad when ND can't even get kids with ties to the program. Kids like beak and Haskell garret from BG. I bet you the younger st brown ends up at Stanford

Will somebody get this guy a tissue and some vagisil.

 

[Blazers46]

Why not attend Holy Cross?

 

[Irishnuke]

Least surprising decommitment that I can remember.

 

[bluengold4732]

Even when we get elite defensive linemen who have genuine interest there always seems to be a hurdle to keep them. Lynch, Vanderdoes, and now Beal. Even Tuitt decommitted and Nix had thoughts of transferring. It's always something: Proximity to home (Eddie V and Lynch) Grades; Auston Robertson and Josh King. Weather: Oluwole Betiku. Now, we don't only have to worry about elite players passing admission but their sibling too. I'm aware this is an unique situation, but it's always something with these d-linemen. I still think team 128 will have a great year and this will be a great class by next year. Here's to positive vibes

 

[rtrn2glory]

What are the odds that he still ends up a part of the class? Are the chances his sister gets admitted slim?

 

[rtrn2glory]

Supposedly visiting Florida state this weekend

 

[NDPhilly]

Going to the same college as your sister sounds like a nightmare.

 

[dublinirish]

Supposedly visiting Florida state this weekend

is Tennessee next?

 

[rtrn2glory]

Loy was basically told by someone close to Beal that if his sister gained admission, he'd be at ND. If not, then he won't. Which stinks if true, because then we're out of it.

For whatever reason I get the sense this has cluster fuck written all over it by the ND staff or admissions.

Is his sister a senior?

 

[dublinirish]

Staff: Robert Beal

My niece has the same trainer down in Atlanta as Beal and supposedly he said he's not coming to ND if his older sister doesn't get accepted. His sister has a 3.8 gpa. Supposedly he released a top 5 today and ND wasn't in it? FSU is favorite . Have you guys heard anything?

this was all coming since early january seemingly, never saw it mentioned on here though

 

[rtrn2glory]

I wouldn't be shocked if he left Tallahassee committed

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Will somebody get this guy a tissue and some vagisil.

While you are at it GB, pour him a big glass of cranberry juice! Oh, hell! Make that a big glass for everyone in the house!

Least surprising decommitment that I can remember.

Agreed! Perfect candidate; early commitment, five stars, heart of SEC country, and his height and weight are suddenly looking suspect. Can't have more of a decommit profile than that.

It seems after nosing around that someone in the Beal camp got their nose out of joint because Robert's sister did not gain admission to ND. (Can't someone who doesn't gain admission, start down the street, and transfer in after a year or two? Or was Rudy entirely fiction?)

Then they fired back to the coaching staff that Robert was going to take visits elsewhere. It seems as though commitment means commitment to the staff. Several times last year players commitments were not taken until they had all their visits out of their systems. Thus the decommitment of which we speak.

Ironic that so many of the above posters saw this as a weakness in the staff, or the program; I feel it is one of the greatest strengths of the staff, and the program!

 

[rocket66]

You guys are all kidding, right?



If not, you should be ashamed of yourselves.



Really, most of you are great guys, most of the time. But under fire here, you have turned into a bunch of whiney, pedantic beyatches. Really. Did you read your own posts?



I would be embarrassed if I thought any of these things, let alone wrote them!



And this isn't about a personal attack. Just the opposite. Next time you may think about throwing a temper tantrum because your wittle feelings awr huwt, or you have penis envy, or whatever. Especially when you say such nonsensical things, things that some recruits that check threads may not appreciate very much. Kids with whom it may work out in the long run. Or if it doesn't it's all for the best. In which case I still find merit leaving everyone with a favorable impression.



Of course you guys wouldn't want to play for a VanGorder defense, but of course these young kids that will probably be making millions playing in the NFL in a few years, that don't have the luxury of your wisdom, might see an advantage in learning NFL schemes and techniques in college.



And of course, I have never seen a 'complete shit show' before, or an incomplete one for that matter. I tend I find myself flushing early and often.



However, if I take a second to imagine one, I doubt it looks anything like our defense.



Interesting one of the words I guarantee isn't ever used around the Gug, is so liberally and freely applied here : blame. I would bet my life that the word and concept of 'responsibility' is all that is used in the Irish program.



You see that is a sign of winners, those that freely make mistakes, admit them, and learn from them, which is a great way to get better. Unlike those with whom the minute there is a bump in the road, which conflicts with their fantasy world, run around like their pants are on fire.









Thanks, Bud, every time I read some of this bilious redundant narrative, (same old same old due to lack of imagination, among other things,) it brings me back round hearing your common sense logic. Please continue to point out the petulant pansy's petards!

Sorry. Stopped reading after line one like most of your posts. Show me where the defensive staff can land and hold elite players. I get that the kid loves his sister, but this is just another issue to add to the larger part. Defensive recruiting is atrocious.


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[rocket66]

'17 GA DE/OLB Robert Beal (Offer)

'17 GA DE/OLB Robert Beal (Offer)

Also, I've never banged on a coach. Ever. Im actually a horrible apologist - even with Weis. But if you don't think the current situation is setting this program back then I don't know what to tell you. Probably the wrong thread for this, so I'll discontinue.


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[Bogtrotter07]

Even when we get elite defensive linemen who have genuine interest there always seems to be a hurdle to keep them. Lynch, Vanderdoes, and now Beal. Even Tuitt decommitted and Nix had thoughts of transferring. It's always something: Proximity to home (Eddie V and Lynch) Grades; Auston Robertson and Josh King. Weather: Oluwole Betiku. Now, we don't only have to worry about elite players passing admission but their sibling too. I'm aware this is an unique situation, but it's always something with these d-linemen. I still think team 128 will have a great year and this will be a great class by next year. Here's to positive vibes

Good points; but a little pedantic about sibling admission tied to recruits.

Has anyone ever researched the average intelligence, or any other personality traits of defensive linemen versus offensive linemen?

I know offensive linemen generally constitute the most intelligent group on the football field at the college and professional level. And that they have greater levels of loyalty and tendencies to protect others, also.

And the truism is that it is harder (more difficult, a more sophisticated process) to learn offensive in general, than defense.

I wonder if the thought process of a prospect during the commitment process is different between offensive and defensive lineman?

It certainly would go a long way to explaining the fact that ND's offensive line players have been cream of the crop, and at that ND has only had a few misses, where the defensive recruits have fallen far short of offensive line recruitment. (It could be the best defensive lineman recruited in years, almost an anomaly in recent ND recruitment at that, was actually recruited and committed as an offensive lineman!

 

[Irish#1]

 

[ThePiombino]

lol

BTW, ND getting straight trolled by GA studs in February.

 

[irishff1014]

Ohio state is killing us in recruiting lately, I'm not gonna say Michigan is because I liked our 2016 class better. It's sad when ND can't even get kids with ties to the program. Kids like beak and Haskell garret from BG. I bet you the younger st brown ends up at Stanford

We aren't going to be able to keep up with them 2 so you need to throw that thought out the window.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

We aren't going to be able to keep up with them 2 so you need to throw that thought out the window.

WHy couldn't we? Part of the issue is I think we need a new Defensive Coordinator. But I'm not read to write BVG off yet because the last two years have been brutal with injuries. But it's sad when we can't even land kids who have a connection to the program already. Cage's brother, Haskell Garett, Younger St Brown who hasn't decided yet. I mean have you seen the offers going out lately? All i see is a bunch of kids who aren't ranked at all or not highly ranked. This class is supposed to be small.

 

[NDdomer2]

I don't have much to back my thought up here but it seems in my years following recruiting that brothers following brothers is like 50% success rate. Yeah we landed Jones and Okwara, but Jaylon didn't follow his bro, Cage is very very doubtful to follow his.

Im sure there are more examples. But this 50/50 would make sense to me. You can follow the footsteps or blaze your own path. They are different individuals in the end with their own life goals and ideas of how to achieve them. As well as some cases, the brothers may not have the same living situation as the other (see Jaylon).

ND isn't for everyone, we know that, and that even applies within one family.

 

[gkIrish]

#16 OVERALL-247

Decommitted per 247

Pretty much sums it up

 

[NDShark]

It's almost like the class of '17's signing day is next week in here.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Staff: Robert Beal



this was all coming since early january seemingly, never saw it mentioned on here though

If it true that she has a 3.8 (on a 4.0 scale) I would like to know what her SAT score is before assuming that the whole thing is admissions' 'fault.' If it is around or above the ND average, it would be hard to understand why she was denied (if this is what happened). Remember, ND has effective racial quotas in admissions. They are not looking for a reason to deny an African-American applicant, even with no football connection.