'15 LA OT/DT Jerry Tillery (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

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dude went off in that game too on top of it.

wow

Tillery said he felt pain after one of the sacks and it stayed the whole season. He had it checked out when he went home for chirstmas break and that's when it was revealed he had the torn labrum. Mom didn't want him to play in the bowl game but JT said he was playing regardless.
 

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Tillery said he felt pain after one of the sacks and it stayed the whole season. He had it checked out when he went home for chirstmas break and that's when it was revealed he had the torn labrum. Mom didn't want him to play in the bowl game but JT said he was playing regardless.

Wtf-mom.gif
 

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I'm not trying to knock on Jerry when I say that his on field performance has regressed. There are multiples reasons why, numbers wise, he has regressed this season. Like Lucci said, having 7 sacks in the first month of the season isn't sustainable. But it would've been nice to see a sack sprinkled in here and there throughout the second half of the season and not just 1 in the last game of the year. I just remember hearing his name A LOT in the first half of the season and not nearly as much in the second half.

I've always been a "glass half full" kinda guy with Notre Dame football. But I'm calling it like I see it with this one. Notre Dame needs September Tillery if they want to beat Clemson.

Pete Sampson in his latest article reporting that Tillery suffered a Torn Labrum in his right shoulder during the Stanford game. Played the rest of the season with it.

THERE, lies the answer......NOT picking on you arrowryn but very understanding now
 

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Was a really good piece on Tillery. Highly recommend reading in full (and subscribing to The Athletic in general).
I think I like Jerry about as much as I dislike the NFL scouts who want to knock him down a peg for not being "fully committed" to football.
 

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Tillery with two good 40s. Announcers are very complimentary of him and Rich Eisen was defending the idea of players having interests outside of football and being more well rounded people.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jerry Tillery runs unofficial 4.94 and 4.97 in the 40.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1102217697872490498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Tillery with two good 40s. Announcers are very complimentary of him and Rich Eisen was defending the idea of players having interests outside of football and being more well rounded people.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jerry Tillery runs unofficial 4.94 and 4.97 in the 40.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1102217697872490498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Adjusted and now official 4.93
Good enough for 2nd, among DL, and awesome for his height.
 
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from his profile on NFL.com

Overview
Tillery is a projection-based prospect with first-class traits and dominant potential, but he's still searching for more consistency from game to game. While his frame is suited for a role as an end in a classic 3-4 scheme, he has plenty of tape showing he shouldn't be scheme dependent on the next level. Scouts would like to see more dominant tape considering his size and power, but if he takes coaching and learns to unleash his hands, he could become an unruly interior force and good three-down starter.

Strengths
Tall with muscular, athletic build and excellent lean muscle mass
Scary natural power for such a long frame and has potential to get bigger and stronger
Well-timed punch will jolt blockers and rattle their pads
Has size and play traits to become dominant two-gapper in odd or even fronts
Uses upper-body power to yank and push blockers aside once he gets into their frame
Keeps strong club move counter in his bag that can lift and displace opposing guards
Downhill freight train effect as bull-rusher if he gets early momentum going
Activates flailing arms to cloud passing windows once quarterback starts throwing motion
Adequate lateral quickness to disrupt in the gaps for slanting fronts
Quick to flatten to the quarterback once he breaches opponent's edge
Shows glimpses of upper-body flexion and hip flip to work over the top of slow-footed interior blockers

Weaknesses
Needs more consistent reaction time off the snap
Loses a measure of power by allowing access into his frame
Takes some bad losses at point of attack when pad level and technique go south
Ends up on the ground more than teams might like
Body control fluctuates according to footwork and base width
Legs become heavy and lumbering the further away he gets from snap point
Looks like he's playing in sand when forced to redirect suddenly against cutting ball carriers
Raw with his hands and hasn't learned to properly weaponize them in his rush attack
Would benefit from more well-rounded rush attack rather than relying on size and force
 

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such a trip to see some of the edge guys run faster times than a lot of running backs.

montez sweat, Miss St edge, 6-6 and 260, ran a 4.42.... holy shit. can he line up at TE and FB too lol.
 
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JT made it into NFL.com's DJ's notebook article of combine notables. Was the second DL mentioned.

Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame (No. 45 to Falcons): Tillery, who stands at 6-foot-6, wreaked havoc on opponents in 2018, accumulating eight sacks and 30 tackles. "To be as tall as he is and be able to change directions ... you can see the athleticism."
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame DT Jerry Tillery checks all the boxes when it comes to length & athleticism...<br><br>At 6’6 ½" - 295 with 34 ¼” arms, Tillery ran a 4.93 40-yard dash + 32” vertical jump & 9’7" broad jump, all top 5 among defensive tackles.<br><br> <a href="https://twitter.com/JerryTillery?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JerryTillery</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDFootball</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> <a href="https://t.co/i93bKVh2ie">pic.twitter.com/i93bKVh2ie</a></p>— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1102298474064703488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's a look a the top defensive tackle performers from the 2019 class based on the Next Gen Stats Combine Score...<br><br>Renell Wren (<a href="https://twitter.com/ASUFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ASUFootball</a>)<br>Quinnen Williams (<a href="https://twitter.com/AlabamaFTBL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlabamaFTBL</a>)<br>Trysten Hill (<a href="https://twitter.com/UCF_Football?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UCF_Football</a>)<br>Dexter Lawrence (<a href="https://twitter.com/ClemsonFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ClemsonFB</a>)<br>Jerry Tillery (<a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDFootball</a>) <a href="https://t.co/l9ATtyzofO">pic.twitter.com/l9ATtyzofO</a></p>— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1102303984168054785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I’m hoping Tillery had good meetings at the combine. With good meetings and today’s performance I hope Tillery solidified himself as a first rounder/late first rounder.


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I’m hoping Tillery had good meetings at the combine. With good meetings and today’s performance I hope Tillery solidified himself as a first rounder/late first rounder.


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They talked about how teams shouldn't hold it against him for having interests outside of football. Perhaps he's too cerebral. Is there such a thing as being too smart in the combine interviews? lol
 

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They talked about how teams shouldn't hold it against him for having interests outside of football. Perhaps he's too cerebral. Is there such a thing as being too smart in the combine interviews? lol

It was one of the knocks against Josh Rosen last year
 
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They talked about how teams shouldn't hold it against him for having interests outside of football. Perhaps he's too cerebral. Is there such a thing as being too smart in the combine interviews? lol

It’s a disgusting argument. The NFL is fine with guys who beat their girlfriends or whatever (as long as there’s no video), but if you’re smart and have interests in the world beyond football your “commitment” is “suspect.”
 

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It’s a disgusting argument. The NFL is fine with guys who beat their girlfriends or whatever (as long as there’s no video), but if you’re smart and have interests in the world beyond football your “commitment” is “suspect.”

yup. at least they no longer let bad behavior prospects into the combine.
read an article specifically about JT going out of his way to assert that football is his number one priority.
 

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It’s a disgusting argument. The NFL is fine with guys who beat their girlfriends or whatever (as long as there’s no video), but if you’re smart and have interests in the world beyond football your “commitment” is “suspect.”

It's all about control. This has been going on with Notre Dame players forever... remember Buddy Ryan telling Duerson he didn't like Notre Dame grads because he didn't want any "smart n*ggers" on his team? The implication is that the ideal football player for organizations is one dumb enough to not think independently, dumb enough to be manipulated by coaches and not question authority, and dumb enough to not have any alternatives outside of football.

Unless you're a white QB*, then they rave about and celebrate your intelligence.

*Except Josh Rosen. For some reason (the money he came from?) that dude got hated on like crazy for having interests outside of football.
 

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It's all about control. This has been going on with Notre Dame players forever... remember Buddy Ryan telling Duerson he didn't like Notre Dame grads because he didn't want any "smart n*ggers" on his team? The implication is that the ideal football player for organizations is one dumb enough to not think independently, dumb enough to be manipulated by coaches and not question authority, and dumb enough to not have any alternatives outside of football.

Unless you're a white QB*, then they rave about and celebrate your intelligence.

*Except Josh Rosen. For some reason (the money he came from?) that dude got hated on like crazy for having interests outside of football.

Football fans outside of UCLA didn't like him because he's a golden boy... privileged kid that has it all, doesn't quite live up to the hype, but still gets the golden ticket to the NFL.

The Football Establishment didn't like him because he was brilliant and articulate when talking about the shortcomings and hypocrisy of the amateur model in college football. He wasn't biting the hand that feeds, but it was still too close for comfort for all the old-school dudes, I'm sure.
 

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It's all about control. This has been going on with Notre Dame players forever... remember Buddy Ryan telling Duerson he didn't like Notre Dame grads because he didn't want any "smart n*ggers" on his team? The implication is that the ideal football player for organizations is one dumb enough to not think independently, dumb enough to be manipulated by coaches and not question authority, and dumb enough to not have any alternatives outside of football.

Unless you're a white QB*, then they rave about and celebrate your intelligence.

*Except Josh Rosen. For some reason (the money he came from?) that dude got hated on like crazy for having interests outside of football.

He criticized the NCAA. From an NFL perspective a guy who's willing to go on the record about the hand that feeds him is an organizational risk.

EDIT: I guess I should have read all the posts in this thread before responding.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big news for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> DT Jerry Tillery, a potential 1st rounder, after his appointment with top shoulder doctor, Peter Millett in Vail: Tillery is ahead of schedule in his rehab from March 6 shoulder surgery & fully expects Tillery to be ready for full activities in early July.</p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1120345644512813057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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It's all about control. This has been going on with Notre Dame players forever... remember Buddy Ryan telling Duerson he didn't like Notre Dame grads because he didn't want any "smart n*ggers" on his team? The implication is that the ideal football player for organizations is one dumb enough to not think independently, dumb enough to be manipulated by coaches and not question authority, and dumb enough to not have any alternatives outside of football.

Unless you're a white QB*, then they rave about and celebrate your intelligence.

*Except Josh Rosen. For some reason (the money he came from?) that dude got hated on like crazy for having interests outside of football.

I don't think its intelligence that they dislike. I think its not wanting to invest in, and plan a roster around, guys who may say to themselves after two years, "You know what, I have 5 million in the bank, and my head and knees are still working right. Football isn't everything..." The NFL is full of hyper-athletic freaks determined to punish you. If your mind is elsewhere--if you have other plausible options or interests--the pain and punishment and long-term health issues are something you may not want to push through.

Owners want guys who LOVE football and are single-minded about winning, because it makes them more predictable, more likely to endure, and more likely to strive for their potential.
 

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I don't think its intelligence that they dislike. I think its not wanting to invest in, and plan a roster around, guys who may say to themselves after two years, "You know what, I have 5 million in the bank, and my head and knees are still working right. Football isn't everything..." The NFL is full of hyper-athletic freaks determined to punish you. If your mind is elsewhere--if you have other plausible options or interests--the pain and punishment and long-term health issues are something you may not want to push through.

Owners want guys who LOVE football and are single-minded about winning, because it makes them more predictable, more likely to endure, and more likely to strive for their potential.

This argument would be more sympathetic if NFL players had guaranteed contracts like they do in baseball and basketball. But teams can, and do, drop guys all the time and invest nothing more than the signing bonus and a weekly paycheck. And the average NFL career is less than three years anyway. No matter how much guys want to “strive for their potential,” most wind up on the scrap heap, and not from their own choosing.

I get why owners may not want to spend a high draft pick and a big bonus on a kid who might quit the game after a few seasons. But I’m not going to cast aspersions on the player for that. They’re the ones taking all the risk.
 

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I get why owners may not want to spend a high draft pick and a big bonus on a kid who might quit the game after a few seasons. But I’m not going to cast aspersions on the player for that. They’re the ones taking all the risk.

I agree that these issues are much more important when you are talking about higher draft picks in the NFL. But the players aren't taking all the risk--even if they are taking the more significant risks (i.e., health). Wasting time, money, and a roster spot for a year or two is something. And you also forgo the opportunity to draft another player.

Long story short, if the team is trying to build a roster and win, it is going to be interested in any and all factors that might may impact their selections. Forget the owners, think about the GM who doesn't want to be fired in 2 years because the team isn't meeting expectations. Their jobs are on the line. They want to minimize risk.

And the short-term nature of the NFL actually probably makes the issue more important. The man or woman who is willing to sacrifice everything for their career is usually more valuable to the organization in the short-term. In the NFL, long-term workaholic burnout isn't the big concern since careers are so short.

As for Rosen, the kid always seemed like he thought he was the smartest person in the room. That can be difficult to manage in any organization.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big news for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> DT Jerry Tillery, a potential 1st rounder, after his appointment with top shoulder doctor, Peter Millett in Vail: Tillery is ahead of schedule in his rehab from March 6 shoulder surgery & fully expects Tillery to be ready for full activities in early July.</p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1120345644512813057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is pretty big for him. I've seen some mocks that have Tillery going middle second round, because the thought he would miss part or all of fall camp.

I really think Tillery is going to get drafted in the late first round Thursday. Saying that I also thought Jarron Jones was going to get drafted at the end of day 2 lmfao
 

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Excellent score. 31 is higher than the average score for an electrical engineer.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wonderlic for some D guys. I hope this puts an end to Rashan Gary talk. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GiantsPride?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GiantsPride</a> <a href="https://t.co/OpGf5TT4rD">pic.twitter.com/OpGf5TT4rD</a></p>— Skye Luque (@LuqueMeatSauce) <a href="https://twitter.com/LuqueMeatSauce/status/1119979512882532353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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lmao at Gary at 9. 10 is considered the baseline for literacy ffs.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chargers seeing "flashes" from Jerry Tillery <a href="https://t.co/1hbmNAUU2d">https://t.co/1hbmNAUU2d</a></p>— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1161240409290526720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Just sacked Lock and almost sacked him again on back to back plays. Giving the Broncos OL fits.
 
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