'13 Coaching Hot Seat

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irishff1014 said:
Uconn is never going to be a an above average team with any consistency.
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Agreed. Maybe I miss interpreted your post. It seemed to me you were saying Foster would not be your first pick if you were UConn. If you're saying UConn would not be your first pick if you were Foster then I 100% agree
 
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I don't know how well Foster can recruit but if he can get just a little bit of talent for his defense he could be a good coach. His defenses at VT have been pretty good. I know they haven't been as good as they use to that last few years they are still descent.
 
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Cackalacky said:
He should go to Maryland.
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I think he would have been a perfect fit for Pitt. Normally a good defensive team with and ok offense.

He might be ok at MD. There is a lot of talent coming from the MD,Northern DE, NJ,NY,VA that he might be able to get them there and turn that place around.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Pelini on job talk: It's been a distraction. "It's hurt our football team. If they wanna fire me go ahead." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Huskers&src=hash">#Huskers</a></p>— World-Herald Big Red (@OWHbigred) <a href="https://twitter.com/OWHbigred/statuses/406524866331156480">November 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Pelini (still on job talk): "I believe in what I've done... this program is heading in a good direction." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Huskers&src=hash">#Huskers</a></p>— World-Herald Big Red (@OWHbigred) <a href="https://twitter.com/OWHbigred/statuses/406524952062722048">November 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Bo Pelini on the penalty called against him: "That was a chicken **** call."</p>— World-Herald Big Red (@OWHbigred) <a href="https://twitter.com/OWHbigred/statuses/406524132776738816">November 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Kaneyoufeelit said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Pelini on job talk: It's been a distraction. "It's hurt our football team. If they wanna fire me go ahead." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Huskers&src=hash">#Huskers</a></p>— World-Herald Big Red (@OWHbigred) <a href="https://twitter.com/OWHbigred/statuses/406524866331156480">November 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Pelini (still on job talk): "I believe in what I've done... this program is heading in a good direction." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Huskers&src=hash">#Huskers</a></p>— World-Herald Big Red (@OWHbigred) <a href="https://twitter.com/OWHbigred/statuses/406524952062722048">November 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Bo Pelini on the penalty called against him: "That was a chicken **** call."</p>— World-Herald Big Red (@OWHbigred) <a href="https://twitter.com/OWHbigred/statuses/406524132776738816">November 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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"I'm not going to apologize. My, uh OUR record speaks for itself."
 
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Bye Bo. No way he's back in Lincoln next year. His attitude is terrible as well.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Am told Bo Pelini's tirade when Bubba Starling was leaning to the Royals was even more miserable than today. How'd you like to be his dog?</p>— Peter Gammons (@pgammo) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgammo/statuses/406533169798586368">November 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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At least if he goes to another school he will get a chance to take a new head shot. Lord have mercy, Bo

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My only problem with getting rid of Pelini is finding a coach to take over. Try explaining to the next coach that if he will be safe as long as he wins. This would make 2 of the last 3 coaches being fired after having 9 win seasons. That is ridiculous if you ask me.

Hey come coach our football team, and if you win 9 games a year we will can you. Solich played for a national championship and then a few years later was fired with a 9-3 record. I wouldn't want to coach there with the unrealistic expectations they have.
 
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In Pelini's first 6 seasons Nebraska has gone 9-4 or 10-4 EVERY SINGLE YEAR. This year what are they? 8-4. They've been stuck in neutral since they hired him.
 
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In Pelini's first 6 seasons Nebraska has gone 9-4 or 10-4 EVERY SINGLE YEAR. This year what are they? 8-4. They've been stuck in neutral since they hired him.
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I wonder how many of those wins are vs ranked teams..
 
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Irishbounty28 said:
My only problem with getting rid of Pelini is finding a coach to take over. Try explaining to the next coach that if he will be safe as long as he wins. This would make 2 of the last 3 coaches being fired after having 9 win seasons. That is ridiculous if you ask me.

Hey come coach our football team, and if you win 9 games a year we will can you. Solich played for a national championship and then a few years later was fired with a 9-3 record. I wouldn't want to coach there with the unrealistic expectations they have.
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Nebraska fans have never come to grips with the reality of their program.

From Pearl Harbor until Devaney, UN never had a coach with a that won 50% of their games. Devaney and Osborne both won 80+ % of their games so they expected every coach to do the same. They forget or blissfully ignore that furing the Devaney/Osborne years they were in the Big 8 not the Big 12. They also ignore that the Big 8 was really the Big Two and The Six Dwarfs. Generally whoever won the UN/OU game won the Conference Championship and went to the Orange Bowl to compete for the NC.

The 85/25 Scholarship Rules put some parity in college football and then UN went to the BIG 12 and had half a dozen competitors. Then they moved to the Big 10 and the competition got tougher again.

Frank Solich won 75% of his games at UN but that wasn't good enough. AND he dared to scrap the Denavey/Osbourne Smash Mouth Offense so they ran him off. The next couple of coaches were more in the mold of those less than mediocre coaches of the 40's ans 50's. Pelini is the best by far since Solich and they gripe because he only wins 9 or 10 games while losing 3or 4.

Nope he's not Devaney but the football world Devaney played in doesn't exist. Devaney would not win 80+ % of his games today. Nor would Osborne.
 
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BGIF said:
Nebraska fans have never come to grips with the reality of their program.

From Pearl Harbor until Devaney, UN never had a coach with a that won 50% of their games. Devaney and Osborne both won 80+ % of their games so they expected every coach to do the same. They forget or blissfully ignore that furing the Devaney/Osborne years they were in the Big 8 not the Big 12. They also ignore that the Big 8 was really the Big Two and The Six Dwarfs. Generally whoever won the UN/OU game won the Conference Championship and went to the Orange Bowl to compete for the NC.

The 85/25 Scholarship Rules put some parity in college football and then UN went to the BIG 12 and had half a dozen competitors. Then they moved to the Big 10 and the competition got tougher again.

Frank Solich won 75% of his games at UN but that wasn't good enough. AND he dared to scrap the Denavey/Osbourne Smash Mouth Offense so they ran him off. The next couple of coaches were more in the mold of those less than mediocre coaches of the 40's ans 50's. Pelini is the best by far since Solich and they gripe because he only wins 9 or 10 games while losing 3or 4.

Nope he's not Devaney but the football world Devaney played in doesn't exist. Devaney would not win 80+ % of his games today. Nor would Osborne.
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Yep. And perhaps Osborne's most genius coaching move was getting out when he did. He saw the writing on the wall of how the game was evolving and would become damn near impossible to win with option/power running football. Speed everywhere and passing became necessary to win. He, of course, never liked the idea of Nebraska in the Big XII because he (correctly) believed the South would be at a much better advantage due to recruiting ability in Texas. The irony in all of this, though, is perhaps if he stuck around a few more years, he might have been able to recruit high school kids from Texas that were running this thing called a Spread Offense...and then the Zone Read-- thus being able to employ his beloved option-based offense.

Nebraska in the big 10 is probably great for the school in virtually all aspects of the university...except football. I'm not sure there aren't literally more than just a handful of guys on the planet that could come to Lincoln and make them a perennial 10-win/BCS game challenger. Their geography, proximity to population and recruiting hotbeds, outsider status within their own conference, historical tie-in to a sort of singular style of play, and insular state pride make them, for the time being, a perennial 8-9 win team...best case scenario.

ND faced (faces) some of those challenges too. Gotta give Chuck a lot of credit for modernizing the offense and getting some big time recruits to come to ND. While Weis will never be in any sort of head coaching Hall of Fame, those several years at ND did help out a lot. Without him, ND could be hoping, wishing, and praying to be at Nebraska's current level of success.
 
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BGIF said:
Nebraska fans have never come to grips with the reality of their program.

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I know a few big/important ones, and I think they're coming around. That is, they realize now that the demographics are so severely stacked against them that they're almost never going to have another dominant team like they had in the early 90's. It would just take years of national recruiting hauls that are almost impossibilities.

If I were them, I might stick with Bo, considering.
 
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Nebraska Rivals recruiting rankings:
2008: 30
2009: 28
2010: 22
2011: 15 (Two Highest rated recruits, RB Aaron Green QB Bubba Starling, left)
2012: 25
2013: 17
2014: 41 (so far)

Pelini has pretty much done as well as he should have done given his recruiting classes.
 
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NDPhilly said:
Nebraska Rivals recruiting rankings:
2008: 30
2009: 28
2010: 22
2011: 15 (Two Highest rated recruits, RB Aaron Green QB Bubba Starling, left)
2012: 25
2013: 17
2014: 41 (so far)

Pelini has pretty much done as well as he should have done given his recruiting classes.
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Trouble with that argument: Every one of the classes on their current roster has been been ranked ahead of...

Wisconsin:
2010: 88 (Yes, 88th. This is the senior class that's been to two Rose Bowls and now headed to a BCS at-large bid)
2011: 40
2012: 22
2013: 57

and

Michigan State:
2010: 30
2011: 30
2012: 41
2013: 40

Yet those teams win big games, play for conference titles and go to Rose Bowls while Nebraska wins 8 or 9 and hovers on the edge of the Top 25.

Also, for whoever pointed out Nebraska's shortage of wins over ranked teams, they are 3-7 against ranked opponents since joining the Big Ten.

Pelini's OK. And their expectations may be out of whack. But it wouldn't be unreasonable at this point to try something else. That program doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
 
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Wisconsin:
2010: 88 (Yes, 88th. This is the senior class that's been to two Rose Bowls and now headed to a BCS at-large bid)
2011: 40
2012: 22
2013: 57

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Michigan State:
2010: 30
2011: 30
2012: 41
2013: 40

Yet those teams win big games, play for conference titles and go to Rose Bowls while Nebraska wins 8 or 9 and hovers on the edge of the Top 25.
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Nebraska is won 9, 10, 10, 9, 10, and now 8/9 under Bo Pelini. They have also played in the conference championship four out of the last five years.

Michigan State hasn't been to a Rose Bowl since 1988. While they did win a Big Ten Championship in 2010 (a three-way tie), that was after a twenty-year gap from 1990-2010.

Unless Nebraska is going to throw the wallet at Chris Peterson and get him, they should keep Bo Pelini another season. I suppose they could take a chance with Scott Frost, but do they want to gamble with a 38-year old first-time head coach?
 
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BGIF said:
Nebraska fans have never come to grips with the reality of their program.

From Pearl Harbor until Devaney, UN never had a coach with a that won 50% of their games. Devaney and Osborne both won 80+ % of their games so they expected every coach to do the same. They forget or blissfully ignore that furing the Devaney/Osborne years they were in the Big 8 not the Big 12. They also ignore that the Big 8 was really the Big Two and The Six Dwarfs. Generally whoever won the UN/OU game won the Conference Championship and went to the Orange Bowl to compete for the NC.

The 85/25 Scholarship Rules put some parity in college football and then UN went to the BIG 12 and had half a dozen competitors. Then they moved to the Big 10 and the competition got tougher again.

Frank Solich won 75% of his games at UN but that wasn't good enough. AND he dared to scrap the Denavey/Osbourne Smash Mouth Offense so they ran him off. The next couple of coaches were more in the mold of those less than mediocre coaches of the 40's ans 50's. Pelini is the best by far since Solich and they gripe because he only wins 9 or 10 games while losing 3or 4.

Nope he's not Devaney but the football world Devaney played in doesn't exist. Devaney would not win 80+ % of his games today. Nor would Osborne.
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I just think Bo needs to tighten up his emotions a bit. Just seems way outta control. And he could use a better QB then Martinez.
 
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rocket66 said:
I wonder how many of those wins are vs ranked teams..
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I looked this morning but haven't found anything. With no cite to reference I'll go out on a limb and conjecture that Pelini may not many wins against ranked teams but he and his fellow UNL head coaches since Osborne have probably faced a higher percentage of ranked opponents in an average year than Devaney and Osborne did during the days of the Big Two and Six Dwarfs Conference. Tougher schedules usually mean less spectacular results.


I did look at the bowl records. Devaney and Osborne won 84% of their games but they were only 18-16 in bowl games. When the competition was tough the great Nebraska coaches were mere mortals.

It was the same story with OU in those days. If they got past Nebraska they were in the NC hunt. Aside from a couple of years at Colorado under McCartney, the other six members of the Big 8 were inept. Nobody outside of the state of Oklahoma knew there was a second team in the state. KU at least had had Gayle Sayers, KSU had nothing. I.S. WHO? And I can't even recall the remaining one.

The Big 12's and Big 10's lower tier schools are much better than the Big 8's were.
 
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Grahambo said:
I just think Bo needs to tighten up his emotions a bit. Just seems way outta control. And he could use a better QB then Martinez.
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Agreed. I had to look up his resume as I couldn't recall him being a head coach anywhere else. He wasn't. He had one year as head coach at Cardinal Mooney in '93 or '94 but no college gig. His experience is primarily as an assistant/coordinator in the NFL or college. He lacks the grooming that Meyer got at Bowling Green or Tressel at Youngstate State. He never developed or had to develop media skills ala Charlie Weis.
 
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Take Sumlin out of the running for any of the open or to-be open jobs

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