'13 CA S Max Redfield (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[Irish#1]

I hope Max has learned his lesson and is not just saying this appease anyone. We've had others who said they were contrite and still didn't learn.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Interesting he was the only one sent home. Gotta make better decisions.

Possibly he didn't have the same persons with him both times so he's the only one who was warned then broke the rules again.
What I can't grasp is someone that intelligent, plating in the biggest game of his life to this point, even puts himself in a position to compromise being with the team.

 

[PANDFAN]

EITHER way, he threw a teammate under the bus....take responsibility for yourself and move on

 

[Irish#1]

Possibly he didn't have the same persons with him both times so he's the only one who was warned then broke the rules again.
What I can't grasp is someone that intelligent, plating in the biggest game of his life to this point, even puts himself in a position to compromise being with the team.

Are you a 19 or 20 year old?

 

[JohnnyJasper]

So help me God.

I would much rather see Fertitta out there

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I bet Max is done.

It makes sense.

And adds substance to the staff :
A) Pushing for so many defensive back; and
B) Pursuing 25 player for the recruiting class.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

I bet Max is done.

It makes sense.

And adds substance to the staff :
A) Pushing for so many defensive back; and
B) Pursuing 25 player for the recruiting class.

Not like he's gonna declare for the draft, at this point he'd be a late round flier.

 

[woolybug25]

I bet Max is done.

It makes sense.

And adds substance to the staff :
A) Pushing for so many defensive back; and
B) Pursuing 25 player for the recruiting class.

I don't believe this. He hasn't graduated and has often been criticized for over extending himself with academics. A kid doesn't go from spending too much time on his mandarin, to leaving a Notre Dame degree on the table. Not to mention, there is no evidence to support such a claim.

Take a deep breath, fellas. The kid made a dumb mistake and he'll take his punishment. End of story.

 

[ndfi78]

I don't believe this. He hasn't graduated and has often been criticized for over extending himself with academics. A kid doesn't go from spending too much time on his mandarin, to leaving a Notre Dame degree on the table. Not to mention, there is no evidence to support such a claim.

Take a deep breath, fellas. The kid made a dumb mistake and he'll take his punishment. End of story.

Yup

 

[Irish Insanity]

Are you a 19 or 20 year old?

No. But I have been. Hell I had 2 of my kids by 20. But I wasn't in the position he is. I wasn't on a D1 scholarship to the best University in the world, starting, preparing for the biggest game of my life to this point. He's been at ND for 3 years. Played in big games. 3 ears deep in college life and the culture. I get what you're saying, but he's not 17 or 18. This isn't his first experience of freedom.

EITHER way, he threw a teammate under the bus....take responsibility for yourself and move on

True

 

[irishff1014]

Are you a 19 or 20 year old?

I was at one time and had more respect for my teammates. 19 is an adult so act like one. Just because you are in college doesn't change you from an adult back to a kid again.

 

[woolybug25]

I was at one time and had more respect for my teammates. 19 is an adult so act like one. Just because you are in college doesn't change you from an adult back to a kid again.

This is such a disingenuous argument. I hate it when people act like an arbitrary number of 18 makes people magically into a full grown adult. I'm sure you were making decisions of a 40 year old professional on your 18th birthday, right?

He's a kid in college. You can act like that he should be making zero mistakes and be treated the same as a 50 year old accountant, but that is absurd. He is in college and hasn't ever been in an adult role in his life. He went from his parents home to a dorm, so save the "he's an adult" bs.

 

[NDohio]

I don't believe this. He hasn't graduated and has often been criticized for over extending himself with academics. A kid doesn't go from spending too much time on his mandarin, to leaving a Notre Dame degree on the table. Not to mention, there is no evidence to support such a claim.

Take a deep breath, fellas. The kid made a dumb mistake and he'll take his punishment. End of story.

This is such a disingenuous argument. I hate it when people act like an arbitrary number of 18 makes people magically into a full grown adult. I'm sure you were making decisions of a 40 year old professional on your 18th birthday, right?

He's a kid in college. You can act like that he should be making zero mistakes and be treated the same as a 50 year old accountant, but that is absurd. He is in college and hasn't ever been in an adult role in his life. He went from his parents home to a dorm, so save the "he's an adult" bs.

Exactly. The voice of reason here. I hate that he did this, but it was a college kid making a mistake.

 

[irishff1014]

This is such a disingenuous argument. I hate it when people act like an arbitrary number of 18 makes people magically into a full grown adult. I'm sure you were making decisions of a 40 year old professional on your 18th birthday, right?

He's a kid in college. You can act like that he should be making zero mistakes and be treated the same as a 50 year old accountant, but that is absurd. He is in college and hasn't ever been in an adult role in his life. He went from his parents home to a dorm, so save the "he's an adult" bs.

Agree to disagree.

 

[GoldenDome]

Life lesson.

Don't be late, be 10 minutes early. College is a place where mistakes are more forgiving. Mistakes in the real world are more costly.

 

[woolybug25]

Agree to disagree.

A proposal has to be made to agree upon to say, "Agree to disagree". None was made. You can say, "I disagree, but am choosing not to engage in debate", but that is entirely different than agreeing with me on our difference in opinion. I offered no such arrangement.

Kinda like a just magically making a kid an adult because of his birthday.

 

[Irish#1]

No. But I have been. Hell I had 2 of my kids by 20. But I wasn't in the position he is. I wasn't on a D1 scholarship to the best University in the world, starting, preparing for the biggest game of my life to this point. He's been at ND for 3 years. Played in big games. 3 ears deep in college life and the culture. I get what you're saying, but he's not 17 or 18. This isn't his first experience of freedom.

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I was at one time and had more respect for my teammates. 19 is an adult so act like one. Just because you are in college doesn't change you from an adult back to a kid again.

I had two kids by the time I was 21. I am in no way shape or form the same person from a maturity stand point. I look back and wonder how in the hell I pulled it off? You see one of the best universities in the world. Max may simply see a good place to go to school and play football.

 

[bkess8]

Life lesson.

Don't be late, be 10 minutes early. College is a place where mistakes are more forgiving. Mistakes in the real world are more costly.

Life lesson:

If you're early you're on time. If you're on time you're late. If you're late you're left.

Learned that in little league and have lived by it everyday since. Hell I teach that to my newly reported personnel in the military everyday.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I had two kids by the time I was 21. I am in no way shape or form the same person from a maturity stand point. I look back and wonder how in the hell I pulled it off? You see one of the best universities in the world. Max may simply see a good place to go to school and play football.

By no means am I the same either. I think my issue may be more with the fact he's been here 3 years and knew his importance to the team. Starter at a spot we are thin at. If he was a freshman, or not as important to the team, I'd understand more.

 

[irishff1014]

Fellas i am not saying he is a bad person. We are were/or will be that age at some point and i would bet that each one of has something that we did then that we would now say man that was a dumb choice. It happens.

From what i remember reading about Max when ND was recruiting him was how smart and mature he was. Someone that has that makeup doesn't usually make the same mistake more then once. I am pretty sure that this isn't hi first time because Kelly doesn't seem to be that coach to cut your throat on your first mistake.

I like Max and wish things would have gone different for him but This game IMO is much bigger then the LSU game last year. You just can't make that decision. This is something you would expect of Greg Bryant Not Max Redfield.

 

[irishff1014]

I had two kids by the time I was 21. I am in no way shape or form the same person from a maturity stand point. I look back and wonder how in the hell I pulled it off? You see one of the best universities in the world. Max may simply see a good place to go to school and play football.

I had my first kid when i 27 and i wasn't completely ready for it and we were expecting it. It makes you grow up quickly. Have kids at a early age doesn't make you a bad person as long as you man up to the responsibility. And i don't know you personally but i have no doubt you did what you had to and grew from it. When you sit back today and look at your kids and how they have grown are you proud of them? Of course our children are going to disappoint us at times. But if you can sit back and say you i am proud of you two and they way you have grown up you have to give yourself a pat on the back because you raised them the right way and you left an impression on them. Didn't mean to go parenting 101 on you but you comment as you not giving yourself enough credit.

 

[Irish#1]

I had my first kid when i 27 and i wasn't completely ready for it and we were expecting it. It makes you grow up quickly. Have kids at a early age doesn't make you a bad person as long as you man up to the responsibility. And i don't know you personally but i have no doubt you did what you had to and grew from it. When you sit back today and look at your kids and how they have grown are you proud of them? Of course our children are going to disappoint us at times. But if you can sit back and say you i am proud of you two and they way you have grown up you have to give yourself a pat on the back because you raised them the right way and you left an impression on them. Didn't mean to go parenting 101 on you but you comment as you not giving yourself enough credit.

I'm 63 and have five adult kids and eight grand-kids. I give all the credit to my wife and kids. lol

 

[Irish Insanity]

I had my first kid when i 27 and i wasn't completely ready for it and we were expecting it. It makes you grow up quickly. Have kids at a early age doesn't make you a bad person as long as you man up to the responsibility. And i don't know you personally but i have no doubt you did what you had to and grew from it. When you sit back today and look at your kids and how they have grown are you proud of them? Of course our children are going to disappoint us at times. But if you can sit back and say you i am proud of you two and they way you have grown up you have to give yourself a pat on the back because you raised them the right way and you left an impression on them. Didn't mean to go parenting 101 on you but you comment as you not giving yourself enough credit.

My kids are within days of being 1 year apart. It definitely made me grow up quickly, but I knew the responsibility and had no fear facing it. Honestly, the oldest was 18 months when I became a single dad, which lasted until he was 10 (when I met my GF.) Looking at them and saying I'm proud of who they became/are becoming is difficult sometimes. Lol, they're both teenagers right now. They're both great kids tho. I could write a book, trust me.

I'm 63 and have five adult kids and eight grand-kids. I give all the credit to my wife and kids. lol

My GF deserves so much more credit than I probably can ever give her. Kids too.

 

[PANDFAN]

per Jac Collinsworth---Redfield can graduate by summer

 

[stlnd01]

per Jac Collinsworth---Redfield can graduate by summer

Wait, so now we think he's leaving? That'd be a far worse decision than breaking curfew ahead of the Fiesta Bowl. Redfield could play his way into a pretty high draft pick next year if he can finally put all the pieces together, but right now he'd be a project at best. He seems smart enough to know that, regardless of what happened the other night.
Settle down, y'all.

 

[Cackalacky]

No info here but it is a bit presumptive to think Max would leave. I would think he has at least an opportunity for a fifth year and he has not sought an NFL evaluation IIRC.

 

[PANDFAN]

Wait, so now we think he's leaving? That'd be a far worse decision than breaking curfew ahead of the Fiesta Bowl. Redfield could play his way into a pretty high draft pick next year if he can finally put all the pieces together, but right now he'd be a project at best. He seems smart enough to know that, regardless of what happened the other night.
Settle down, y'all.

that wasn't implied...others stated he wouldn't have graduated, i just was pointing out that he CAN

on the podcast of Jac and Keith arnold---they think he is GONE, grad before summer and transfer

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[Sherm Sticky]

No info here but it is a bit presumptive to think Max would leave. I would think he has at least an opportunity for a fifth year and he has not sought an NFL evaluation IIRC.

Why are you mentioning a fifth year? Max is a true junior and hasn't sat out one single season.

 

[Cackalacky]

Why are you mentioning a fifth year? Max is a true junior and hasn't sat out one single season.

My bad. I got him mixed up.

 

[PANDFAN]

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