'13 CA DT Eddie Vanderdoes (UCLA)

[bibigon]

I smell bull$hit.
Make him sit.

If he wins the appeal, National Signing Day loses all relevance.

Why should National Signing Day have relevance?

 

[magogian]

Everything statement from the family has been incredibly vague. Makes me think they're trying to use a relative's illness as an excuse for a change of heart.

Exactly. Frankly, it is insulting and evidences a lack of integrity.

 

[Onemanwolfpack]

Hilarious post....love the Ferris references. Pretty much sums up how I see the situation. If it is family illness related I hope whomever is ill gets better, but the family handled it all poorly. ND was in a tough spot and it is hard to argue why they should release him from the LOI. What I am most curious about is how he decided to pick his new school and how much the UCLA coaching staff was involved in recruiting a player with a signed LOI.

Oh well, time to move on and focus on players who want to play for ND (and are eligible).

 

[NDWorld247]

The Vanderdoes family was pissed his thread on IE had died for 48+ hours. I, however, was cautiously optimistic it would remain that way much longer. Lets move on.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

"Earlier" this winter. On Twitter, Feldman said that the diagnosis came in March, which is weeks after Signing Day and fits with other talk about when this whole business began.

Who knows. Not that it's necessarily our business what kind of relative and how severe an illness, but it's still all pretty vague. Though this is the first I've heard that EV also has family in LA, which I guess helps his case a bit.

My bad. I didn't know when he found out. I assumed since signing day is approximately halfway through winter, that early in winter would be before then. I had no clue he actually found out in march.

 

[magogian]

The Vanderdoes family was pissed his thread on IE had died for 48+ hours. I, however, was cautiously optimistic it would remain that way much longer. Lets move on.

I know, seriously. Recruits need to stop letting IE run their lives.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I just can't wait to hear his excuse in a few years why he needs to be on the 49ers instead of the Browns.

 

[chicago51]

What are we discussing now his favorite color? his admiration for sea turtles?

 

[Golden Glory]

From the Scout UCLA board

Eddie Vanderdoes has a very serious personal reason for wanting to get out of his National Letter of Intent to Notre Dame...

Eddie Vanderdoes, the five-star 2013 defensive lineman, has tried to get out of his National Letter of Intent to Notre Dame because his grandmother is seriously ill, according to sources.
Shortly after Vanderdoes signed the NLI in February his grandmother took ill. Once he learned the seriousness of the illness, Vanderdoes determined he wouldn't want to be so far away from her or his family.

Vanderdoes asked Notre Dame to be released from the NLI, but was refused. He then attempted it through conventional means, applying to be let out of it through the NLI's online system. The NLI office then rejected him, he appealed again, and the NLI office recently rejected the appeal.

When asked how seriousness the illness, a source indicated that the next year and half would be an important time for Vanderdoes to be close to his family.

If Notre Dame doesn't release Vanderdoes, and they've steadfastly indicated they wouldn't, the family could also pursue legal means. Notre Dame might have made errors in the protocol for responding to the NLI appeal, and those close to

Scout.com: Vanderdoes Reason to Get Out of NLI

 

[magogian]

If he actually gave a **** about being close to his grandmother, he would go to whatever bullshit community college or state college was nearest his town.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I know this sounds bad, but what grandparent would want their grandchildren to alter the course of their life for them?

 

[irishandy]

Seems like Vanderdoes is caring more about getting out of his NLI (he's set to enroll at UCLA) than the illness of his grandmother...sad.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Id keep an eye on Jon Osterhout (EV's trainer) and if he lands a job at UCLA in the near future.

 

[stlnd01]

Well, hell, Manti Te'o's girlfriend died and he went out and beat Michigan. That's an RKG!

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Id keep an eye on Jon Osterhout (EV's trainer) and if he lands a job at UCLA in the near future.

Isn't that more a matter of when than if?

 

[me9rob]

If he actually gave a **** about being close to his grandmother, he would go to whatever bullshit community college or state college was nearest his town.

the grandmother might be in Los Angeles

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Isn't that more a matter of when than if?

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Id keep an eye on Jon Osterhout (EV's trainer) and if he lands a job at UCLA in the near future.

UCLA couldn't be dumb enough to make it that obvious could they?

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I'm officially done with this thread.

 

[BobD]

WGAFA

 

[ThePiombino]

WGAFA

It's morbid curiosity at this point.

 

[Irishnuke]

The next year to year and a half is going to be important for Eddie to be close to home. That's a very interesting time frame. By very interesting, I mean bullshits.

 

[vmgsf]

This should all be over. He should quit while he is ahead. If he keeps poking the NCAA and Notre Dame with a sharp stick in the eye he and UCLA might not like the result. I originally agreed with Whiskeyjack's post that the NCAA won't bother with this but the threat to pursue further "legal means" stated from the UNNAMED source in the UCLA scout.com article will not go down well with the NCAA and with Notre Dame. IF as the UNNAMED source states his grandmother is seriously? ill - move her to Auburn or move yourself to where she is so you, her child, can properly take care of her. Is he going to be spending 5 hours a day with his grandmother when he is going to school, practicing and playing football?

Notre Dame's flat out refusal to release hm from his NLI and the NCAA's flat out refusal to release him from his NLI after he appealed - strongly suggest that all this is total, unfiltered, unrefined, unadulerated, 100% pure bullshit.

Here is my total speculation. This "humble" young man was upset that his dramatic 8 p.m. press conference on Signing Day was ruined because Notre Dame listed him as a commitment before his press conference. UCLA went to work on him. His personal trainer with very strong UCLA connections got in his ear, convinced him that he should lose 20 pounds and never play nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. His trainer publicly stated that he was similar to an NFL star - Suh - but more fundamentally sound. Notre Dame's coaches and he had agreed that he would come in at about a certain weight and be able to play any defensive line position including nose tackle at times. Notre Dame's coaches were not happy that he had lost this weight and decided unilaterally that he would never play any nose tackle. UCLA let him know he would never, ever have to play nose tackle and that they totally agreed with his personal trainer that losing 20 pounds was the right thing to do and they wanted him to come to UCLA badly. At this point, he had a divine revealation and decided that he must play at UCLA.

I am not speculating on whether UCLA offered his 9th grade sister a full scholarship to play badminton. I am not speculating on whether UCLA agreed to give his his personal trainer a job as part of the package but this is something the NCAA might want to look into.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

This should all be over. He should quit while he is ahead. If he keeps poking the NCAA and Notre Dame with a sharp stick in the eye he and UCLA might not like the result. I originally agreed with Whiskeyjack's post that the NCAA won't bother with this but the threat to pursue further "legal means" stated from the UNNAMED source in the UCLA scout.com article will not go down well with the NCAA and with Notre Dame. IF as the UNNAMED source states his grandmother is seriously? ill - move her to Auburn or move yourself to where she is so you, her child, can properly take care of her. Is he going to be spending 5 hours a day with his grandmother when he is going to school, practicing and playing football?

Notre Dame's flat out refusal to release hm from his NLI and the NCAA's flat out refusal to release him from his NLI after he appealed - strongly suggest that all this is total, unfiltered, unrefined, unadulerated, 100% pure bullshit.

Here is my total speculation. This "humble" young man was upset that his dramatic 8 p.m. press conference on Signing Day was ruined because Notre Dame listed him as a commitment before his press conference. UCLA went to work on him. His personal trainer with very strong UCLA connections got in his ear, convinced him that he should lose 20 pounds and never play nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. His trainer publicly stated that he was similar to an NFL star - Suh - but more fundamentally sound. Notre Dame's coaches and he had agreed that he would come in at about a certain weight and be able to play any defensive line position including nose tackle at times. [ND brings kids in as open groups; the bigs, big skill, and skill; then they let them settle to their position. So probably ND said something like "natural" position, and would not guarantee defensive end only.] Notre Dame's coaches were not happy that he had lost this weight and decided unilaterally that he would never play any nose tackle. [I am not sure what you mean, but I don't think Kelly and his staff would respond to pressure about playing a position from a recruit, his family, his trainer or any other person.] UCLA let him know he would never, ever have to play nose tackle and that they totally agreed with his personal trainer that losing 20 pounds was the right thing to do and they wanted him to come to UCLA badly. At this point, he had a divine revealation and decided that he must play at UCLA. [You forgot about contact from Kyle Fitts and other UCLA recruit, "friends." Talking a player out of honoring his LOI is so much more effective if it comes from more than one source.]

I am not speculating on whether UCLA offered his 9th grade sister a full scholarship to play badminton. I am not speculating on whether UCLA agreed to give his his personal trainer a job as part of the package but this is something the NCAA might want to look into. [If the NCAA isn't all over this like stink on shiit, they might as well fold up their tent. As goes their enforcement of rules related to the LOI, so goes the LOI. If the LOI goes, it is like having a table with three legs, (in four corners).]

Nice quote. Great framework. I added a bit. I hope UCLA gets seriously eviscerated. But I won't hold my breath. Everybody in the PAC 12 fukking them up would be good, too!

 

[Irish Insanity]

His explanation may be all true and a reason he feels the need to stay home, that idk. He was denied by ND to be released, and by the NCAA more than once. Seems there is still more that isn't being told and he was denied multiple times for a reason.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

When I had just enlisted, my Mimi (dad's mom) took a turn for the worse. I attended her funeral. There was nothing else I could do. Her six kids (one of which was my father) did. And she lived in the same town as me. I loved my Mimi, but life goes on. When I check out, I don't want to tie up my grandkids. Bull-oney! LOL!

 

[Bobias]

I know this sounds bad, but what grandparent would want their grandchildren to alter the course of their life for them?

I agree, and the same goes for Eddie too. Who changes their entire future based off of a grandparent getting sick? We all love/loved our grand parents very much, but in no way should them getting sick and dying take precedent over life changing decisions such as this. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but it's kinda what happens when you get old. I'm am just not buying the news that a grandparent getting terminally ill is such a life altering realization that it would force you to throw away a chance to go to ND only to go to a school that is still 6+ hours from his hometown.

 

[LoveThee]

I want this thread to go away

 

[yankeeND]

I've said before it's a shame that it didn't work out, but I am all good with watching the guys that want to be here instead. I get disappointed every time we lose the big name guys that we were so excited to land, but I am still just as excited to watch our guys hit the field with or without a select few.

 

[Kak7304]

Is he going to be spending 5 hours a day with his grandmother when he is going to school, practicing and playing football?

I was thinking the exact same thing. Plenty of people have had a sick grandparent and didn't make life-altering decisions because of it. If he was raised by his grandmother and she had no other family around and he would be around often, then ok, I understand, but I strongly doubt this is the case.