+1 in 2011?

[GoshenGipper]

I don't know how many of you listen to sports talk radio during the day, but this morning I heard that it's looking very likely that starting 2011 there will a "+1" Championship game following the BCS Bowl games. According to the reports I heard all day this proposal is really starting to gain steam, but the one major player that might hold it up is the Rose Bowl. In the new format there would still be the 5 "BCS" games, but a few of the more traditional big bowls (Fiesta, Orange, Sugar, and Rose) would act as semifinal games, where the two top teams would play a week later. One reason it's slated for 2011 is because the last year for the current BCS contract is 2010.

 

[Akron Irish]

Sounds like a good start

 

[Fishin'_Irish]

It will be interesting to see how the bowls keep their respective tie-ins without pissing someone off.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I'll take it over the system we have now, although a playoff would be best in my opinion.

 

[Irishknight1023]

These kids can't play playoffs after the regular season, thats too many games. I for one think a playoff is retarded and makes bowl games now pointless. AND regular season games even more pointless.

 

[Fishin'_Irish]

These kids can't play playoffs after the regular season, thats too many games. I for one think a playoff is retarded and makes bowl games now pointless. AND regular season games even more pointless.

I agree with a lot of what you said. What I love about college football is that each game matters. Each game impacts your entire season. Don't lose, or you may not get another chance. It's part of what makes college football so special. Every moment is important, from the first kickoff to the last quarterback kneel. I think a full playoff could take away from this.

 

[lattedatte]

playoff or bust. 6 or 8 teams. keep all the other bowls. simple yet complex.

 

[The Polish Irishman]

The more college football games the better

 

[notredomer23]

I don't know how many of you listen to sports talk radio during the day, but this morning I heard that it's looking very likely that starting 2011 there will a "+1" Championship game following the BCS Bowl games. According to the reports I heard all day this proposal is really starting to gain steam, but the one major player that might hold it up is the Rose Bowl. In the new format there would still be the 5 "BCS" games, but a few of the more traditional big bowls (Fiesta, Orange, Sugar, and Rose) would act as semifinal games, where the two top teams would play a week later. One reason it's slated for 2011 is because the last year for the current BCS contract is 2010.

they had that on some show on Espn today also.

I heard though it would be all the same bowls(for the teams at 8-4, you know), except that the Rose and the Sugar would be semifinals, and the NC.

 

[GoshenGipper]

playoff or bust. 6 or 8 teams. keep all the other bowls. simple yet complex.

When Cowheard was talking about it one of the points he made was how any new format shouldn't include more than four teams. He started going back though the last several years, and everyone that finished 5th or lower didn't have any real gripe about not having a legit shot at a NC, and in his estimation if they were to start including - to 16 teams it would spread out the playoff time line too far, therefor taking away the post season's sense of urgency, and allow too many undeserving teams into the tourny making it very similar to the NBA, or the NHL playoffs.

 

[Newc]

Yea exactly, thats why so many more people live and die with their college teams each weekend unlike the NFL. Keep the games meaningful. The +1 system is the best proposal out there because it would still keep the traditions of the bowl games. The Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange would all remain prestigious games as the higher end bowl games, however it would benefit college football to have a final no questions about it college champ. It would have been beneficial this year with all the Michigan, Florida, Ohio State Boise State chatter that we heard.

 

[GoshenGipper]

Yea exactly, thats why so many more people live and die with their college teams each weekend unlike the NFL. Keep the games meaningful. The +1 system is the best proposal out there because it would still keep the traditions of the bowl games. The Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange would all remain prestigious games as the higher end bowl games, however it would benefit college football to have a final no questions about it college champ. It would have been beneficial this year with all the Michigan, Florida, Ohio State Boise State chatter that we heard.

I still wouldn't have put Bosie State in a Campionship game. It would send a bad message to AD's if a team's "hard" road games were schools like San Jose St., and Wyoming and they were still able to make it into a Campionship game. What would be the point in creating a challenging schedule? IMO a one loss BCS school would be more deserving than schools like Boise State, Hawaii, Utah, TCU, etc. Oh, and that goes for schools like WVU too, talk about scheduling yourself to a big time bowl game.

WVU's 2007 Non-conference Schedule:
Western Michigan
@Marshall
@Maryland
East Carolina
Miss. State

Last years was almost the same but they had 1AA E.Washington on the schedule instead of W.Michigan.

 

[ACamp1900]

Sounds like a good start

no it's freaking retarded, all it creates is the same gripe on game week later than usual... solves NOTHING...

the system is fine how it is, for those who feel it is not go watch the NFL and STFU

 

[Sureal]

I for one like that idea. It should have been done a long time ago. If the D-1AA and the other lower levels can do it then D1 should be able to do it. No more than 4 teams.

 

[GoshenGipper]

But what happens if you end up with 3 undeafeated teams, 1 one undefeted team, and several one loss teams, or no undefeated teams and 3 or 4 one loss teams?

I don't want a big playoff system, but I think this would probably be a very good idea.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I think a 4 team playoff would be good. Just think back to 1993, we would have beaten F$U again and win the NC instead of getting screwed because of our mess up against Fredo and the fact that Bowden never won one up to that piont. Go Irish!

 

[Sureal]

I think a 4 team playoff would be good. Just think back to 1993, we would have beaten F$U again and win the NC instead of getting screwed because of our mess up against Fredo and the fact that Bowden never won one up to that piont. Go Irish!

That year and the year that both Nebraska and PSU went undefeated. Although I think Nebraska would have taken PSU to the woodshed it would have been nice to have it played out on the field.

 

[GoshenGipper]

And then you always have cases where the 2nd best team is often left out of the BCS campionship. Miami killed Nebraska in the Rose Bowl rather than Oregon getting a shot at them even though Nebraska couldn't win the Big 12 North, or the time when Oklahoma beat down F$U in the Orange. I can't rember who I thought was 2nd best, but I remember it being another one of those I told you so moments. And finally what about a USC team that was ranked #1 in both polls being left out of the BCS Campionship in favor of OU who lost to Kansas St. in the Big 12 title game when just about everyone in the country thought that USC was the best team going into the Bowls.

 

[notredomer23]

Watch PTI they are talkin about it now and at 630 on ESPNews

 

[littlerick77]

i don't care either way - there is no perfect scenario and someone will always find a flaw to bitch about...

BUT, I really wish the poll system could go through an overhaul - I realize they won't, but I get fed up with the politics, the conference bias, preseason polls, etc....

What's the point of having weekly polls if all that matter is the final ranking? HYPE!! Hype for games, hype for heisman, etc. Just let everyone play their damn schedule and rank the teams at the end for bowl match ups. what do you guys/gals think?

 

[onenybrother]

I can hear Mark May now, with Notre Dame schedule they shouldn't be here. But I like the concept though.

Let's Go Dame !!!

 

[Sureal]

i don't care either way - there is no perfect scenario and someone will always find a flaw to bitch about...

[B]BUT, I really wish the poll system could go through an overhaul - I realize they won't, but I get fed up with the politics, the conference bias, preseason polls, etc.... [/B]

What's the point of having weekly polls if all that matter is the final ranking? HYPE!! Hype for games, hype for heisman, etc. Just let everyone play their damn schedule and rank the teams at the end for bowl match ups. what do you guys/gals think?

Bingo brotha!!! You hit it right on the head. I think that is the biggest problem college football has. Preseason polls are ridiculous. The polls should start at about the first week of October....

 

[bayernarsch]

onenybrother is headed in the direction i was thinking. be careful what you wish for!!! the major conferences will definitely use this to screw notre dame if they can. i know and realize that notre dame has the greatest name recognition and is a great draw, but if you think for a second that the big ten, big twelve, et al wouldn't use this to try to screw notre dame or leverage notre dame into potentially joining a conference, you're nuts. because notre dame is the one major independent school left and the major conferences have proven to be money grubbing bastards looking to squeeze out competition, i'm a bit leery of this. 'wonderful' pundits like mark may will lead the charge as to why notre dame should never qualify for the play in game, which would play right into the machinations of the major conferences.

 

[GhostSpirit]

playoff or bust. 6 or 8 teams. keep all the other bowls. simple yet complex.

I agree. And I don't see how having one more bowl game, like they're proposing, is too many games. It's just one more game for two teams.

 

[ACamp1900]

Playoffs are fho suckas!!!!!

 

[Fishin'_Irish]

Playoffs are fho suckas!!!!!

That's the best I've heard anyone say it. Couldn't agree more.

 

[OCIrish]

I still wouldn't have put Bosie State in a Campionship game. It would send a bad message to AD's if a team's "hard" road games were schools like San Jose St., and Wyoming and they were still able to make it into a Campionship game. What would be the point in creating a challenging schedule? IMO a one loss BCS school would be more deserving than schools like Boise State, Hawaii, Utah, TCU, etc. Oh, and that goes for schools like WVU too, talk about scheduling yourself to a big time bowl game.

WVU's 2007 Non-conference Schedule:
Western Michigan
@Marshall
@Maryland
East Carolina
Miss. State

Last years was almost the same but they had 1AA E.Washington on the schedule instead of W.Michigan.

I can't knock somebodies schedule, when Dr. White is watering down our own schedule, and it pisses me off.

 

[OCIrish]

onenybrother is headed in the direction i was thinking. be careful what you wish for!!! the major conferences will definitely use this to screw notre dame if they can. i know and realize that notre dame has the greatest name recognition and is a great draw, but if you think for a second that the big ten, big twelve, et al wouldn't use this to try to screw notre dame or leverage notre dame into potentially joining a conference, you're nuts. because notre dame is the one major independent school left and the major conferences have proven to be money grubbing bastards looking to squeeze out competition, i'm a bit leery of this. 'wonderful' pundits like mark may will lead the charge as to why notre dame should never qualify for the play in game, which would play right into the machinations of the major conferences.

The only thing that I would say to that is that the powers that be ( the money movers) will want ND to be in it someway becuase we are such a huge draw. Be it alumni or the subway alumni, ND sells out games and thus, we will have a provision for us becuase we make a ton of money for people. Sponsers, commercials, you name it and it's being bought because of our large following. I just don't ever seeing us being made to join a conferance for a playoff spot. If something like that did happen, I would suggest the Big 10, though it pains me to say it, but the BE to me is just not interesting. That's why I have no interest in us playing BE teams. Just not interesting.


Go Irish!!!

 

[lattedatte]

I still wouldn't have put Bosie State in a Campionship game. It would send a bad message to AD's if a team's "hard" road games were schools like San Jose St., and Wyoming and they were still able to make it into a Campionship game. What would be the point in creating a challenging schedule? IMO a one loss BCS school would be more deserving than schools like Boise State, Hawaii, Utah, TCU, etc. Oh, and that goes for schools like WVU too, talk about scheduling yourself to a big time bowl game.

WVU's 2007 Non-conference Schedule:
Western Michigan
@Marshall
@Maryland
East Carolina
Miss. State

Last years was almost the same but they had 1AA E.Washington on the schedule instead of W.Michigan.

Why do people have such a hard on for WVU? They are scheduling up. If you look at their future schedules they have Auburn, FSU, Mich St., Maryland and eventually us thanks to the recent BE sceduling agreement. It's one thing if they got to their bowl games and then got smacked around but they beat Ga.(THE MIGHTY SEC CHAMP) in Atlanta and last year beat GT without Slaton. They will not play in the NC if they lose one game so they are punished for their schedule.

As to the playoffs. You have to wait a month right now and in some cases like the B10 40 days before you play the national championship game and an 8 team playoff could still be finished in that time frame. Even though I favor 6 becuase I think the two best teams should get a bye. Also, they are adding regular season games which makes the season even longer.

It is stupidity not to have a championship settled on the field.

 

[grantphilly]

change isn't always bad and if it dosen't work how they want it they will change it to something thats suits them better and proubally be able to give the conferences a couple 100 million more


and we need smilies that make it rain on them hoe's