'12 MD ATH Ronald Darby (Florida State Signee)

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LOL me too... I watched that video ,and felt so good...I still like Darby regardless seems like a great guy...I want him to be Irish tho..

Man ur right he does seem like a cool dude...I didn't/don't like all the hate bein laid on him for his de-commit...After all...they're just kids ya know...it's a big decision and it's being made by a 17/18 year old kid!
 

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I'm just curious about 1 thing with Darby, and it has to do with track.
You only stick with track if you think you might make the Olympics,that's the only big achievement there is in track.
Yes Darby is fast, football fast. He was killing all those kids in that video in the 100m, but he was still only running 10.88. Olympic track runners like Bolt run almost a full second faster than that.There's no way in the world to increase your speed that much.
Now football wise he would be like lightning on the field compared to 99% of people...
 

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I'm just curious about 1 thing with Darby, and it has to do with track.
You only stick with track if you think you might make the Olympics,that's the only big achievement there is in track.
Yes Darby is fast, football fast. He was killing all those kids in that video in the 100m, but he was still only running 10.88. Olympic track runners like Bolt run almost a full second faster than that.There's no way in the world to increase your speed that much.
Now football wise he would be like lightning on the field compared to 99% of people...

This seems to be a common sentiment on IE, this and the "but track is an individual sport, so why does he care if a school has a good track program" point. I don't know much about track so I don't know, but my guess is that he just loves track like many kids love football, basketball, etc., and he wants to compete at the highest level. As to why he wants a good track program, he probably wants to be around people that are similarly talented and will push him to improve, just like many of us chose to attend Notre Dame because we wanted to be around other smart, talented kids (at least that was part of my reasoning). Now there are lots of good counter-arguments (I just made the beginnings of one ... at ND the environment and education offers MORE than just sports, beginning with the talented general student population), but my guess is that is Darby's thinking.j

EDIT: "highest level" for collegiate athletes ... not saying he wants to/thinks he can compete in the Olympics
 

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This seems to be a common sentiment on IE, this and the "but track is an individual sport, so why does he care if a school has a good track program" point. I don't know much about track so I don't know, but my guess is that he just loves track like many kids love football, basketball, etc., and he wants to compete at the highest level. As to why he wants a good track program, he probably wants to be around people that are similarly talented and will push him to improve, just like many of us chose to attend Notre Dame because we wanted to be around other smart, talented kids (at least that was part of my reasoning). Now there are lots of good counter-arguments (I just made the beginnings of one ... at ND the environment and education offers MORE than just sports, beginning with the talented general student population), but my guess is that is Darby's thinking.j

EDIT: "highest level" for collegiate athletes ... not saying he wants to/thinks he can compete in the Olympics

This is true..I have some track knowledge being a 100m and 200m champ in Iowa back in the day (own horn tooted haha)....but you get championship rings for winning a conference or national championship....Imagine winning the 100 and 200 all 4 years weather it be conference or NCAA...rings for the whole hand!!! Or if you win a team championship...little things like that appeal to kids (I know a guy from Fort Wayne who was a diver at Florida State and he has a SWEET ACC championship ring and he uses it to pick up babes all the time!!!)...I hated track..I was a football guy even though I was less talented at it and had to take offers from lesser programs...but yea I agree I don't think he's olympic fast...its hard to catch up to Usain Bolt when his legs are turning over as fast as yours are AND he's 6'7"
 
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I honestly think that he is putting way too much emphasis on track due to near-sightednesss and emotional decision making. Think about it this way, he is all ND during the summer while training for football and his senior season, and he is all ND during his senior football season. Then the football season ends and suddenly he is not focused on football all day everyday, and he starts training for track.

He loves track and now all of his focus is on it so that will tend to be the only thing he can think about. Then, after training for track for a few weeks he has to reverse gears and switch to football for a week. This might frustrate him a bit as he really wants to do well in track, and this might throw off his training regiment. So he goes down there to play football when all he can think about is track, and starts to put an overemphasis on track as the main deciding factor for his college choice.

Well what awaits him down there are recruits from all different schools trying to persuade each other to come to their respected institutions, and with Darby already over emphasising track, he is easily persuaded by the recruits from FSU and assorted SEC schools that track is the selling point. After the game, he decides that ND isn't the right institution for him because there weren't any ND guys talking to him because they already assumed he was an ND lock.

Darby seems like a smart kid, but he lets his emotions play into his decision making far too easily. He needs to take a step back and view this process from a logistical standpoint. College recruiters are master communicators and can easily manipulate someone into thinking that their respective schools are the best place for that person to go, whether it be true or not. Darby needs to learn that every recruiter will say whatever they can in order to sell the institution, and that he needs to realize that they are only pushing track because that is all he is thinking about right now.

There is your Darby conspiracy theory for the day.
 

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I think he should consider track quite heavily, I want him at ND but you have to remember he has the potential to compete at the Olympics one days and that needs to be remembered.
 

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I honestly think that he is putting way too much emphasis on track due to near-sightednesss and emotional decision making. Think about it this way, he is all ND during the summer while training for football and his senior season, and he is all ND during his senior football season. Then the football season ends and suddenly he is not focused on football all day everyday, and he starts training for track.

He loves track and now all of his focus is on it so that will tend to be the only thing he can think about. Then, after training for track for a few weeks he has to reverse gears and switch to football for a week. This might frustrate him a bit as he really wants to do well in track, and this might throw off his training regiment. So he goes down there to play football when all he can think about is track, and starts to put an overemphasis on track as the main deciding factor for his college choice.

Well what awaits him down there are recruits from all different schools trying to persuade each other to come to their respected institutions, and with Darby already over emphasising track, he is easily persuaded by the recruits from FSU and assorted SEC schools that track is the selling point. After the game, he decides that ND isn't the right institution for him because there weren't any ND guys talking to him because they already assumed he was an ND lock.

Darby seems like a smart kid, but he lets his emotions play into his decision making far too easily. He needs to take a step back and view this process from a logistical standpoint. College recruiters are master communicators and can easily manipulate someone into thinking that their respective schools are the best place for that person to go, whether it be true or not. Darby needs to learn that every recruiter will say whatever they can in order to sell the institution, and that he needs to realize that they are only pushing track because that is all he is thinking about right now.

There is your Darby conspiracy theory for the day.

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I believe, and for those who know for sure please correct me if I am wrong, that Oregon is known more for it's distance running.

True, Oregon hasn't been a player in NCAA Track championships for quite some time. Cross country (distance running), now that's a different story. Track championships have been dominated primarily by team down south .... Arkansas, F$U and most recently Texas A&M.
 

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This is true..I have some track knowledge being a 100m and 200m champ in Iowa back in the day (own horn tooted haha)....but you get championship rings for winning a conference or national championship....Imagine winning the 100 and 200 all 4 years weather it be conference or NCAA...rings for the whole hand!!! Or if you win a team championship...little things like that appeal to kids (I know a guy from Fort Wayne who was a diver at Florida State and he has a SWEET ACC championship ring and he uses it to pick up babes all the time!!!)...I hated track..I was a football guy even though I was less talented at it and had to take offers from lesser programs...but yea I agree I don't think he's olympic fast...its hard to catch up to Usain Bolt when his legs are turning over as fast as yours are AND he's 6'7"

He's 6'4"- 6'5". But I get your drift.
 

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Yea ur right I had to look that up. For some reason I had in my head that he was 6'7". Those other guys must be pretty short then cuz he looks gigantic!!!
 

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I didnt follow super closely last year, but i dont recall all these guys choosing ON nsd. They just wake up and fax their papers or what, did a lot of guys have online feeds of them choosing a hat last year then showing them fax papers?
 

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I didnt follow super closely last year, but i dont recall all these guys choosing ON nsd. They just wake up and fax their papers or what, did a lot of guys have online feeds of them choosing a hat last year then showing them fax papers?

There were a few who were shown on ESPN but the hat thing I don't remember being done...although crowell had a bulldog puppy
 

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Took a last minute OV to Clemson this weekend and could be waiting to announce after NSD.
 
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Kelly has an in-home visit with Darby later this month as well if I remember correctly.
 

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Announcement will be live on ESPN on NSD.

FSU, Auburn, ND, Clemson, Maryland.

Staff will visit him later this week.
 

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Ugh. We don't have a good track record with kids announcing live on NSD.
 
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I just hope that when the staff visits him this week, they leave with a clear idea of if we're in it or not. If we're not and we know we won't get his commitment on NSD, full court press on Yuri (I hope) and Poole.
 

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He's going to FSU. That's why ESPN wants him announcing on their network.
 

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He's going to FSU. That's why ESPN wants him announcing on their network.

That's where the smart money is. I would LOVE to have him back....but my gut says he's going to FSU.

Damn shame, but I dont think he was ever really Irish....
 

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That's where the smart money is. I would LOVE to have him back....but my gut says he's going to FSU.

Damn shame, but I dont think he was ever really Irish....

He was absolutely Irish for a number of reasons but someone got in his ear and it worked.. happens all te time.

BK and this staff have proven to us before that a situation like this can most definitely end in our favor.

They still have a chance to re-recruit him.
 

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He commented on facebook on a picutre of some guy on a recruiting visit to FSU... I definitely feel thats where the safe money is
 
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