'12 MD ATH Ronald Darby (Florida State Signee)

[SJIrish]

Anybody know what may have happened with Darby and Kerry Cooks? On the II podcast they said Darby's conversation with Cooks at the UA game last week may have played a role in him decommiting.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Anybody know what may have happened with Darby and Kerry Cooks? On the II podcast they said Darby's conversation with Cooks at the UA game last week may have played a role in him decommiting.

It was reportedly a very short meeting. Speculation is that, in light of Darby's decision to visit Clemson a 2nd time, Cooks notified that ND wouldn't guarantee his spot in the class anymore, since it was clear that he's not really committed to us at all.

 

[SJIrish]

It was reportedly a very short meeting. Speculation is that, in light of Darby's decision to visit Clemson a 2nd time, Cooks notified that ND wouldn't guarantee his spot in the class anymore, since it was clear that he's not really committed to us at all.

Thanks, too bad things didn't work out. He and Shepard would have been a great duo.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Rivals has him at "no interest" in ND, and 7 other schools at "medium interest."

This may have been mentioned, but I didn't want to comb through 22 pages of meltdown.

 

[cLaRk_JoNeS]

I think its simple. if Diaco isnt making him breakfast on Friday morning, then A. the staff knows kid his gone or B. the staff no longer feels the end result is worth their time.

I gotta say, all the rumors, quotes, interviews and tweets im not impressed. Something just seems not right with the lad, i think going to a school that doesnt seem to help their students(hold their hand if need be) might spell failure.

Maybe when its all done, ppl will feel more freely to tell truth about what happened

 

[irishff1014]

I wouldn't say he is worth the time. Anyone that has the skill level of Darby they are always worth the time. But if they can get a recruit thats close to Darbys level then it doesn't hurt as bad.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Darby was worth the time, and if there is a reasonable chance still is worth the time. The staff is good at meeting with families and doubtless do not "mind" the effort for such a big talent. I don't view any of this as a real "ego" problem. I see this as a young man strongly [and wrongly] influenced by some of his peers. If he changes his perspective, comes to Notre Dame and graduates, he'll be able to walk down the road of life, and when any of his acquaintances in the future come up to him and ask "where'd you go to school?", and he answers: "I graduated from the University of Notre Dame", they will, almost always say:Wow. It has always happened to me. So much so that I have to slap myself to get my pride back into control thereafter.

Ronald is making a not-so-hot choice right now. It's a young person's type of choice. Maybe that will still change.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Darby was worth the time, and if there is a reasonable chance still is worth the time.

I would go as far to say even if there is a "slim" chance, he is worth the time.

Our entire staff is highly capable of reeling in kids across the board, so I say continue to court him balls-out until the bitter end.

 

[Grahambo]

I would go as far to say even if there is a "slim" chance, he is worth the time.

Our entire staff is highly capable of reeling in kids across the board, so I say continue to court him balls-out until the bitter end.

Just tough right now because of the dead period so they can't have any contact yet.

 

[irishfanjho15]

Darby was worth the time, and if there is a reasonable chance still is worth the time. The staff is good at meeting with families and doubtless do not "mind" the effort for such a big talent. I don't view any of this as a real "ego" problem. I see this as a young man strongly [and wrongly] influenced by some of his peers. If he changes his perspective, comes to Notre Dame and graduates, he'll be able to walk down the road of life, and when any of his acquaintances in the future come up to him and ask "where'd you go to school?", and he answers: "I graduated from the University of Notre Dame", they will, almost always say:Wow. It has always happened to me. So much so that I have to slap myself to get my pride back into control thereafter.

Ronald is making a not-so-hot choice right now. It's a young person's type of choice. Maybe that will still change.

OMM - I know you have some years on you, but I'm more than sure you are more than wise beyond them.


Darby is worth the time, the staff will make another push for him I'm sure. The in-home will help. I think the meeting with Cooks jilted him a bit, but sometimes in life we need to hear things we don't like. I think Ronald Darby will be a fine football player and an excellent track-star no matter where he goes. That being said, he, just as OMM noted, has a chance to have a back-up plan with UND's education that will assist him greatly no matter where life takes him. In the end I hope him all the insight and wisdom to make the best decision he possibly can, that being the one for himself and himself only.

 

[anarin]

I'm not sure what the big argument is here. Darby seems to favor a school with a good track team, Cooks straight up told (in an indirect way) to stop bullshitting and confirm his pledge or he'll be left out. You throw those two things in a bowl with a bunch of kids in his ear about coming to their schools and you get this.

Would we benefit with him coming back to Notre Dame? yes
Will our class be a failure if he decides to go elsewhere? no

I never felt Darby would stick it out, and I think he used Notre Dame as an insurance policy. I will be highly suprised if he commits with the Irish.

 

[cLaRk_JoNeS]

maybe u should put in a call to Mr Norris and have him pay a visit.

cant say i ever heard the alarm clock joke, i loled

 

[IrishMoore1]

A recruit who says he's committed but continues to take visits is NOT committed. This should come as no surprise to anyone. Either you're committed or you're not. There's no in-between.

 

[rtrn2glory]

from what i've read we are in favor of his parents, which has proven to be very positive in the past. we need to have an in home with him. no phone calls/emails/whatever. sitting down with the parents in their home will give us the best chance to land him.

 

[rtrn2glory]

A recruit who says he's committed but continues to take visits is NOT committed. This should come as no surprise to anyone. Either you're committed or you're not. There's no in-between.

agree to an extent...recruit with a "solid verbal" is fully committed. a kid who's committed and taking visits is a "soft verbal" at best regardless of what they say...i hear what you're saying though for sure, i've thought along those lines for years.

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

from what i've read we are in favor of his parents, which has proven to be very positive in the class. we need to have an in home with him. no phone calls/emails/whatever. sitting down with the parents in their home will give us the best chance to land him.

Totally agree with this.

 

[koonja]

A recruit who says he's committed but continues to take visits is NOT committed. This should come as no surprise to anyone. Either you're committed or you're not. There's no in-between.

I disagree. It's not always so black and white. If I had a chance to play football at ND, I swear I would accept their offer asap and still take my visits just to see good college football games. No chance I would not sign with ND on signing day. Most of these kids didn't grow up die hard fans, though, so I see your point. But some know where they're going and still take their visits because visits are fun.

 

[FLDomer]

Update from Warchant re: Bracy and Darby
I was just told that Marvin Bracy has a lot of make up work to finish and the FSU coaches actually prefer him to come down next week so he can help work on Andrus Peat, along with Jameis Winston helping him. Therefore Marvin will be at FSU on January 20th to help with the uncommitted guys.

Ronald Darby also confirmed via text that he will be at FSU this weekend. I'm also told that he plans to meet with all the FSU track coaches in getting a feel for that program. Apparently Marvin has been speaking with Darby every single day about FSU and has even given Darby the heads up about who to talk with on the visit for Track.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Update from Warchant re: Bracy and Darby
I was just told that Marvin Bracy has a lot of make up work to finish and the FSU coaches actually prefer him to come down next week so he can help work on Andrus Peat, along with Jameis Winston helping him. Therefore Marvin will be at FSU on January 20th to help with the uncommitted guys.

Ronald Darby also confirmed via text that he will be at FSU this weekend. I'm also told that he plans to meet with all the FSU track coaches in getting a feel for that program. Apparently Marvin has been speaking with Darby every single day about FSU and has even given Darby the heads up about who to talk with on the visit for Track.

I'd like to hear what IrishInFL is hearing from Gene about Darby.

 

[irishog77]

There's always one tidbit I like to point out when recruits are considering FSU-- their football coach, a full grown male, has the name JIMBO.

J I M B O

Jimbo, ladies and gentlemen. Jimbo.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

I'm not sure what the big argument is here. Darby seems to favor a school with a good track team, Cooks straight up told (in an indirect way) to stop bullshitting and confirm his pledge or he'll be left out. You throw those two things in a bowl with a bunch of kids in his ear about coming to their schools and you get this.
Would we benefit with him coming back to Notre Dame? yes
Will our class be a failure if he decides to go elsewhere? no

I never felt Darby would stick it out, and I think he used Notre Dame as an insurance policy. I will be highly suprised if he commits with the Irish.

Has is been 100% confirmed this is what took place? You seem to be speaking in absolutes, and if there is even 1% speculation to this, it shouldn't be spread on a message board considering how apparent it has become that recruits do follow these things. If it has been confirmed that this is exactly what happened, then I somewhat agree with you, although not sure we were just used as an insurance policy. I mean think about...there is a reason most high school kids go through 10+ bfs/gfs in high school. At that age, your feelings, needs and wants change almost daily.

 

[BobD]

from what i've read we are in favor of his parents, which has proven to be very positive in the past. we need to have an in home with him. no phone calls/emails/whatever. sitting down with the parents in their home will give us the best chance to land him.

I agree but it's 2012. These days it might be more impactful to have the coach send him a text message:

sup rd? bk here...thought i'd hit u up again about comin to ND, lets do this brah!

 

[rtrn2glory]

I agree but it's 2012. These days it might be more impactful to have the coach send him a text message:

sup rd? bk here...thought i'd hit u up again about comin to ND, lets do this brah!

i'm thinking more in line to help get the support from having a sit down with the parents, the kid, and the coaches

prolly would go a lot farther than a text. worked out last year let's hope it does again.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

from what i've read we are in favor of his parents, which has proven to be very positive in the past. we need to have an in home with him. no phone calls/emails/whatever. sitting down with the parents in their home will give us the best chance to land him.

Can anyone else confirm this? I want to be believe it, as it should help our chances of getting Darby back in the fold immensely, but I can't recall reading anything about his parents.

 

[SoIll]

he gown

 

[anarin]

Has is been 100% confirmed this is what took place? You seem to be speaking in absolutes, and if there is even 1% speculation to this, it shouldn't be spread on a message board considering how apparent it has become that recruits do follow these things. If it has been confirmed that this is exactly what happened, then I somewhat agree with you, although not sure we were just used as an insurance policy. I mean think about...there is a reason most high school kids go through 10+ bfs/gfs in high school. At that age, your feelings, needs and wants change almost daily.

Nothing is ever 100% confirmed unless it comes from the horses mouth. But being that I've read numerous articles from several sites, yes this would be a valid conclusion.

Since you need some eye candy and and an obvious stroke of the hair, I'll take the bait.

Darby backs away from ND pledge | Inside the Irish

“I like Notre Dame, don’t get me wrong, I love it. But I’m a good track runner as well and Notre Dame is a football powerhouse, not really a track one.”

And being that he is checking out FSU and their track team, the writing is on the wall.

As far as the $hit or get off the pot comment, I am 100% sure I read this. But through all of the postings and such over the past few days. I can't seem to find that article now (and no, it wasn't on some ghetto site like bleacher).

And you are in the minority if you really think that Darby just recently had a change of heart and he was solid all along.

 

[TerryTate]

No one knows what happened.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

@schadjoe:

Mike Stoops is officially joining Oklahoma as co-defensive coordinator as soon as today

Huge loss for FSU. Won't help their chances with Darby.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

@schadjoe:



Huge loss for FSU. Won't help their chances with Darby.

Excellent news...then again ND has to play a Mike stoops Defense for a second year in a row.

Think this has an effect on Mario Edwards? I know his pops went to FSU, but he is from Texas and has a lot of interest in UT.

 

[TerryTate]

BOOM!