'12 NC DE/DT Carlos Watkins (Clemson Verbal)

[TerryTate]

Defensive tackle
Forest City, North Carolina
Chase

Ht:6'4"
Wt:275 lbs

Rivals: 5.9 #76 Nationally
247: Rating 97 #5 DT
Scout: #12 DT

Offers:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Clemson
Duke
Florida
Georgia Tech
Miami
Nebraska
North Carolina
North Carolina State
South Carolina
Wake Forest

 

[TerryTate]

Will visit June 16th

 

[OCIrish]

Will visit June 16th

Hadn't heard of this kid. His numbers and offer list is quite impressive, so obviously he's got some great skills. Hope he likes his visit and gets an offer.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Snap! that's good to hear. NT or DE?

 

[IHateMarkMay]

About 45 minutes away from me, I know a kid that went to Chase and he said it is more the hill billies lol. At least we know he is corn fed haha.

 

[jason_h537]

Surprised no one posted this. Will be visiting later in June. Recruited as a DE

 

[GBdomer]

TT posted it a couple posts earlier homes.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Surprised no one posted this. Will be visiting later in June. Recruited as a DE

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Will visit June 16th

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

This kid is a freak of nature...he has played many postitions. Man I would love to land this guy..../

 

[BeauBenken]

Surprised no one posted this. Will be visiting later in June. Recruited as a DE

How come all these guys who I'm really hoping to be a NT we have a good shot at are being recruited at DE?

 

[Rhode Irish]

How come all these guys who I'm really hoping to be a NT we have a good shot at are being recruited at DE?

Because they are all 6'4", 275 lbs. types, not 6'0", 330 lbs.

 

[BeauBenken]

Because they are all 6'4", 275 lbs. types, not 6'0", 330 lbs.

No kid needs to weigh 330 at 6' in high school. 6'4" at 275 says to me that he probably has the frame to add the 30 more pounds of bulk.

 

[IrishLax]

Because they are all 6'4", 275 lbs. types, not 6'0", 330 lbs.

Most NFL 3-4 NTs are closer to 6'4" than 6'.

 

[Rhode Irish]

My point isn't really about height. It is a totally different body type. If you are built like a bowling ball you probably qualify, whether you are 5'11" or 6'4". Haloti Ngata is a little taller at 6'4"; Vince Wilfork, BJ Raji and Casey Hampton are all 6'2" and under.

But my point was more about shape than height. I should have probably made that more clear.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Maybe it's not quite obvious yet where he might play on the D-Line. After a Rivals "camp" in April, their analyst said: "Watkins came into the event battling Jonathan Bullard for the boasting rights of the top defensive lineman in the state but it is clear that they are different types of linemen. While Bullard looks more like a big end, Watkins is purely a defensive tackle and a very good one at that. Watkins is a very powerful rusher who uses his physical stature to dominate opponents. At times he flashed quickness to the outside and he has a couple of nice moves including a violent rip, but he's more of a bulldozer right now. His build, his power and his ability to play with leverage make him an ideal 4-3 defensive tackle or even a nose tackle in a 3-4."

Watkins also plays basketball, and although his team isn't very good [maybe a 50/50 W/L type team and worse in league], he himself averages 22ppg and 11rebounds per game. That says a little something about athleticism ... and he gets two steals per game as well.

 

[pkt77242]

Most NFL 3-4 NTs are closer to 6'4" than 6'.

Agreed

Pat Williams 6'3"
Haloti Ngata 6'4"
Vince Wilfolk 6'2"
Shaun Rogers 6'4"

 

[Rhode Irish]

Agreed

Pat Williams 6'3"
Haloti Ngata 6'4"
Vince Wilfolk 6'2"
Shaun Rogers 6'4"

How is Vince Wilfork, at 6'2", closer to 6'4" than 6'0''? And also Casey Hampton and BJ Raji, who I also mentioned, are also not closer to 6'4" than 6'0".

But, to clarify again, none of those guys are 275. My point was not about height, but shape. I should have made that more clear in my first post.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Howie Long, called himself an oversized bridge troll? I think that is right. The point is (as a rule) the DE's have long thighs and legs with narrower pelvises and broader shoulders. NT's have broader builds floor to shoulder, more barrel chested builds, and shorter thighs as a rule.

 

[pkt77242]

How is Vince Wilfork, at 6'2", closer to 6'4" than 6'0''? And also Casey Hampton and BJ Raji, who I also mentioned, are also not closer to 6'4" than 6'0".

But, to clarify again, none of those guys are 275. My point was not about height, but shape. I should have made that more clear in my first post.

I agree it is about shape more than height (generally speaking).

 

[Old Man Mike]

In the quote I posted the critical comment was that he plays with great leverage. That's the salient point to all this size/shape business. And "pounds" can take care of themselves from age 17-20.

 

[jason_h537]

whoops sorry for missing Terry Tate's post. Someone give my man some reps because i gotta spread the love (or negative reps if you push it) first

 

[effacient]

NC Mountain Properties

Will visit June 16th

I hope that we can meet tomorrow. See you there.

 

[BeauBenken]

I hope that we can meet tomorrow. See you there.

...what?

Also, welcome aboard, but an odd first post. Do you think Terry is visiting June 16th? Or are you saying "you" in reference to the recruit?

 

[GBdomer]

...what?

Also, welcome aboard, but an odd first post. Do you think Terry is visiting June 16th? Or are you saying "you" in reference to the recruit?

hahha

 

[Cali_domer]

I hope that we can meet tomorrow. See you there.

Strong first post! Leave everyone wondering what the **** you are talking about.

 

[beryirish]

ESPN Insider

ESPNU 150 DT Carlos Watkins stacks offers - ESPN


In high school, the only positions Watkins hasn't played is QB and DB.
Junior Yr. --- 50 tackles, 14 sacks, 29 TFL
Says he needs to work on his pass rushing (sounds like a good PR wit 14 sacks)
Says he is more of a run stopper.

"Right now I am still open," Watkins said. "I know this summer I want to see Notre Dame, Florida, Miami [camp], Alabama and Auburn. I have been to Clemson, South Carolina, Tennessee and Georgia, so I have a pretty good idea what's out there."

"Playing time is important and I want to feel comfortable, like I am part of a family," Watkins said. "I don't want to take too long to make a decision and I am hoping to do something this fall. I will try and get to as many schools as I can this summer. I know I will likely have to take some official visits as well."


ESPN 150: #141 (80 Rating; #14 DT)

 

[jason_h537]

I hope that we can meet tomorrow. See you there.

Yup, can't wait?

 

[NYIrish14]

Rivals has update on his visit its premium

 

[jason_h537]

Family had a good time. Thats about it so far

 

[Ironman8]

Per ESPN, 5 he "mentions most" are South Carolina, Clemson, ND, Florida and Miami. Grew up a Miami fan, but loves home cooking. 2 SC schools probably lead, but we are in it.