North Carolina in BIG Trouble

[Riddickulous]

Apparently the NCAA is investigating whether the players have received illegal benefits.

Joe Schad has been Tweeting about it.

 

[ACamp1900]

they need to crack down and adjust the rules on oversigning like yesterday...

 

[Ben E.]

tisk tisk butchy!

 

[military_irish]

is he trying to recreate his Miami days

 

[tko]

have fun giovanni

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

greg little...not like he put a picture on the internet flashing thousands of dollars for signing with a certain school!

calling kenneth page...

 

[PatsandBostonfan1975]

Thats why I LOvEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE our school . Last thing I worry about.

 

[military_irish]

Thats why I LOvEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE our school . Last thing I worry about.

well we have been in trouble before i think it was autry denson, i think back in the day, but then again that is rare and far between not to shine a bad light on ND because i love this university, but it has happened at least once

 

[DirtySecret]

Thats why I LOvEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE our school . Last thing I worry about.

Kim Dunbar scandal ring a bell..

 

[BGIF]

Kim Dunbar scandal ring a bell.

Kim Dunbar was a serial groupie who gave gifts to friends. She was neither an agent nor a glad handing booster with $100 handshakes nor did she hand out rewards for hurting QBs. Trying to connect Dunbar to agents and illegal contact is disingenuous.

ND's probation was based on an NCAA Committee declaring her a booster due to a $25.00 administrative charge to defray the mailing list expenses of the Quarterback Club. The connection was a travesty. The "booster" allegation would not have held up under appeal but ND President Malloy nixed any appeal not wanting further bad publicity.

Hardly the stuff of agents (Alabama & USC), house buying (USC), cars (many schools), ineligible players under contract to an agent (Alabama & USC).

From the more detailed reports the NCAA appears to be investigating the relationship of agents with a number of UNC juniors. The NCAA allows agents to have conversation with junior but no money, gifts, houses, cars, OR contracts, written or verbal.

 

[chadder20]

Until the coaches and administrators start being banned from coming back at another school or facing harsh penalties, they will continue to run dirty programs no matter where they go. It’s really evident in NCAA basketball right now, but football is just as bad. These coaches need to be held to the fire instead of letting them continue to cheat at a lower level school for a few years or go hide in the NFL until they prove they actually suck as a head coach and then let them come back to college to cheat once again. I can’t wait until Petey proves yet once again that he is actually a bad football coach but one hell of a payout guy! Butch Davis didn’t do a damn thing in the NFL, but now he can take a program that historically sucks to a conference champ contender in three years? Even if it is the ACC, WTF??? I’m glad this is hitting the radar finally, but it needs more punishment!

 

[DirtySecret]

Kim Dunbar was a serial groupie who gave gifts to friends. She was neither an agent nor a glad handing booster with $100 handshakes nor did she hand out rewards for hurting QBs. Trying to connect Dunbar to agents and illegal contact is disingenuous.

ND's probation was based on an NCAA Committee declaring her a booster due to a $25.00 administrative charge to defray the mailing list expenses of the Quarterback Club. The connection was a travesty. The "booster" allegation would not have held up under appeal but ND President Malloy nixed any appeal not wanting further bad publicity.

Hardly the stuff of agents (Alabama & USC), house buying (USC), cars (many schools), ineligible players under contract to an agent (Alabama & USC).

From the more detailed reports the NCAA appears to be investigating the relationship of agents with a number of UNC juniors. The NCAA allows agents to have conversation with junior but no money, gifts, houses, cars, OR contracts, written or verbal.

Yea, I know the Dunbar story it took revoting a number of times to find ND guilty and there more of secondry infraction than anything. The sad part is when you mention USC infraction to a USC fan he always goes to the Kim Dunbar argument...

I guess good ol' Butchy was trying to build another Miami out of UNC.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I am completely with BGIF here. The Dunbar thing was the sort of personal immorality that no university can police. That it was even lain at ND's doorstep was outrageous and another sign that the media piranhas out there will attack anything "juicy" that they can. Attacking ND is, unfortunately, a favorite thing, just like attacking Catholicism, and somewhat for the same reason. People living in gutters don't like people who use the civilized paths. Sorry for the rant but that situation got to me "back in the day".

 

[BGIF]

Yea, I know the Dunbar story it took revoting a number of times to find ND guilty and there more of secondry infraction than anything. The sad part is when you mention USC infraction to a USC fan he always goes to the Kim Dunbar argument...

Of course they do. And that's disingenuous of them. But what else do they have?

Among other things the different between the Dunbar Affair and Bush's Agent was $25.00 versus $250,000.00. Several orders of magnitude. The ND coaches investigated and found no violations. It took the made up Quarterback Club milaling list to fabricate a connection. The USC coaches claimed they didn't see the elephant in the house. No ND coach lost his job over Dunbar. Pete quit before he could and McNair did lose his job.

I guess good ol' Butchy was trying to build another Miami out of UNC.

Maybe. Details are scarce so far.

 

[rocket31]

It is apparently beyond just in-person meetings, rent payments, and travel expenses. We are potentially talking about all expenses paid trips to South Beach, exorbitant amounts of money dropped on accessories, and perhaps even a Bentley or two.

NCAA probe into UNC football program 'sounding very serious' | CollegeFootballTalk.com

 

[TDHeysus]

The sad part is when you mention USC infraction to a USC fan he always goes to the Kim Dunbar argument...

when that happens, tell that usc person these names:
Winston Justice
Herschel Denis
Matt Leinart
Frostee Rucker
Shareece Wright
Eric Wright
Darrell Russell
LenDale White
R.J. Soward
Reggie Bush
OJ Mayo
Robert Guillory
that train wreck Rey Mauluga
the list is alot longer....

by the time you get to Eric Wright on that list, they wont want to talk to you anymore...

 

[NDinLA is a TROLL]

I read somewhere there were rumors that there were players driving Bentley's.

 

[IrishInFl]

Report: NCAA probe focusing on two Tar Heels | CollegeFootballTalk.com

Shocker! Greg Little is involved! Ever wonder why he flipped commitment from ND on signing day? Well, here's your answer.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Report: NFL player paid for UNC players' trip

Report: NFL player paid for UNC players' trip

ESPN blogger Heather Dinich

Link: Report: NFL player Kentwan Balmer paid for University of North Carolina players' trip - ESPN

Kentwan Balmer, a North Carolina alum who is now a defensive tackle with the San Francisco 49ers, paid for former Tar Heels teammates Marvin Austin and Cam Thomas to travel to California during summer 2009, Thomas told the Raleigh News and Observer.

If Thomas' statement can be confirmed by the NCAA, Balmer paying for the trip could be a violation of the NCAA's "preferential treatment" bylaw, subjecting North Carolina to potential NCAA discipline.

North Carolina hopes the NCAA's inquiry is over before the season starts (vs. LSU, Sept. 4). But if not, the school will not risk using a player not cleared by the NCAA for fear of vacating wins if the player is later deemed ineligible, sources told ESPN.

That means it is possible neither Austin nor Little will take the field for the Tar Heels for the opener and beyond.

 

[ACamp1900]

That may be Austin's career right there.....

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

His college career might end if true, but he'll get drafted. Think he remembers that offensive tackle from bama 2 years ago?

 

[GoingGreen]

North Carolina has a football team? They actually play sports other than basketball? Interesting...

 

[BGIF]

North Carolina has a football team? They actually play sports other than basketball? Interesting...

So you're saying you've only been an ND fan for one season?

 

[military_irish]

The investigation has expanded to academics, in which they believe tutors helped write papers for some of the players.

UNC Investigation Expanded-ESPN

 

[GoingGreen]

So you're saying you've only been an ND fan for one season?

As in we lost to them in '08?

 

[mgriff]

The way this is going, I would say it's safe to remove the "potentially" from the title of this thread.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I guess I should have saved that "inside story" I related the other day in the "oversigning thread" for this spot. Oh well, can't keep this whole site straight in my 70 year old head.

 

[irishtrain]

The investigation has expanded to academics, in which they believe tutors helped write papers for some of the players.

UNC Investigation Expanded-ESPN

Carolina is going to get smoked on this one, this sounds bad-like they didnt even care about putting up a good front- just cheat your @$$ off. Plus the worst thing is what do they do when they can no longer play-man dont waste 4 yrs like this use your head.

 

[RDU Irish]

Kim Dunbar was a serial groupie who gave gifts to friends. She was neither an agent nor a glad handing booster with $100 handshakes nor did she hand out rewards for hurting QBs. Trying to connect Dunbar to agents and illegal contact is disingenuous.

ND's probation was based on an NCAA Committee declaring her a booster due to a $25.00 administrative charge to defray the mailing list expenses of the Quarterback Club. The connection was a travesty. The "booster" allegation would not have held up under appeal but ND President Malloy nixed any appeal not wanting further bad publicity.

Didn't Dunbar embezzle a bunch of $$ from a local business too? And eventually bear a child for a player? Serial Groupie is a great way to describe her. That whole "scandal" was a joke and it still amazes me how haters act like it was a big deal.

 

[FWIRISH]

Yep. Dunbar was a human pin cushion!!!!!!!