Oct 17 | BYU

[jprue24]

How I explain it, as someone who grew up outside Utah and now lives here is, "people from Utah don't get out much."

Same and same.

 

[NDPhilly]

BYU is currently -10 at home vs 2-2 Iowa State, while we'll be favored by the same amount (likely more) on the road next week. That's what vegas thinks of them - good, not great

 

[FU BK]

Did that ham happen to purr or growl when you bit into it?

No purring....I poked it to make sure. There was some sort of sauce and was absolutely nasty, but I was hungry so I pinched my nose and swallowed....gut said otherwise.

 

[stlnd01]

I’m so glad the rest of you are getting exposure to the BYU fanbase. This is not just bluster, they legitimately believe they are a good 2-3 team in CFB because of their record the last 2-3 years.

Going back to the start of 2023 they are 4-6 against ranked opponents. The four wins include two whatever bowl games against teams ranked in the 20s, Kansas State in 2024, and a three-point win over Utah last year. The six losses include every actually good team they have played.

 

[402puck]

They are who ND was under Kelly (post 2016, which never actually happened we all just dreamt it)

Very good football program with a salty defense against okayish competition but it’s pretty obvious they’re a tier or two lower when they step up and play teams that have legit elite talent

 

[stlnd01]

They are who ND was under Kelly (post 2016, which never actually happened we all just dreamt it)

Very good football program with a salty defense against okayish competition but it’s pretty obvious they’re a tier or two lower when they step up and play teams that have legit elite talent

I get what you’re saying but I think our talent level in 2017-2021 was a notch or two above BYU’s. They are nowhere near a four-team playoff that we made twice and were last team out of a third time.

 

[Bane]

I get what you’re saying but I think our talent level in 2017-2021 was a notch or two above BYU’s. They are nowhere near a four-team playoff that we made twice and were last team out of a third time.

Yeah, those teams put a decent amount of talent into the League, which I don't foresee these BYU teams doing to the same level. Also, Ian Book >>>>> Bear Bachmeier.

 

[stlnd01]

Yeah, those teams put a decent amount of talent into the League, which I don't foresee these BYU teams doing to the same level. Also, Ian Book >>>>> Bear Bachmeier.

At the start of this season there were 12 former BYU players on NFL rosters. There were 47 from Notre Dame.
We are not the same.

 

[NDPhilly]

They ended 2025 power rated around 20 and 2024 around 25. The record is a product of easy schedules and close wins

 

[402puck]

I get what you’re saying but I think our talent level in 2017-2021 was a notch or two above BYU’s. They are nowhere near a four-team playoff that we made twice and were last team out of a third time.

Yeah I didn’t really compare rosters at all, mainly just national perception and actual results.

I just looked up their 2026 talent composite they are #59????

 

[Bane]

They ended 2025 power rated around 20 and 2024 around 25. The record is a product of easy schedules and close wins

Tell them this and they'll appeal to "conference wins." And I don't necessarily knock them for their schedules, I get they play in the B12, but they don't dominate the weak teams in there. Last year, I had no problems admitting TTU earned a playoff spot, they played a weak schedule but they trucked everyone on it (including BYU, twice), but BYU doesn't do anything for me. They don't have hard schedules, they don't have a ton of composite talent, they don't pass the eye test, they're not elite on either side of the ball or even at any one position group. They are a hardnosed, well coached team. They will not roll over and die for ND and they will fight to the final whistle, but truly if we lose to them then we are not who we thought we are.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Honestly don't even care how they've played leading up to next week. I expect them to play their best against us

 

[stlnd01]

Tell them this and they'll appeal to "conference wins." And I don't necessarily knock them for their schedules, I get they play in the B12, but they don't dominate the weak teams in there. Last year, I had no problems admitting TTU earned a playoff spot, they played a weak schedule but they trucked everyone on it (including BYU, twice), but BYU doesn't do anything for me. They don't have hard schedules, they don't have a ton of composite talent, they don't pass the eye test, they're not elite on either side of the ball or even at any one position group. They are a hardnosed, well coached team. They will not roll over and die for ND and they will fight to the final whistle, but truly if we lose to them then we are not who we thought we are.

Wisconsin and North Carolina didn't roll over and die either. And they have more talented rosters than BYU does. If we are the team we all think we are, I expect this game will go similarly to those. Close for a half, though never really in doubt, before our superior depth and talent pulls away.

 

[Irish#1]

The game is in 9 days. I care, as before, you don’t have to!

You care enough to post your opinion, and I care enough to post mine. That’s generally how message boards work.

 

[EvilleIrish]

The line is at 13.5 on FanDuel right now.

 

[Dale]

You care enough to post your opinion, and I care enough to post mine. That’s generally how message boards work.

I didn’t post an opinion, I posted an injury report from the coaching staff.

I’ll keep both your invaluable opinions in mind though.

 

[Irish#1]

I didn’t post an opinion, I posted an injury report from the coaching staff.

I’ll keep both your invaluable opinions in mind though.

Oh, I understand now. You posted the injury report strictly as a public service and certainly weren’t interested in anyone discussing it.

 

[Dale]

Oh, I understand now. You posted the injury report strictly as a public service and certainly weren’t interested in anyone discussing it.

No discuss away! Your valuable insight was I don’t care, thank you so much!

 

[tko]

Irsay awaits

 

[IrishLax]

The line is at 13.5 on FanDuel right now.

Actually crazy, SP+ projects it closer than that + it's on the road. Vegas is not buying whatever the Cougars are selling. I wonder how much injuries are a factor.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

They are going to come out with their hair on fire and it's going to be a game for the first quarter. Announcers are going to eat it up. And then the emotion starts to wear down. Our talent starts to wear them down. Our depth starts to wear them down. And it ends with ND winning by something just above the spread.

One caveat...if they can't stop the run game and ND starts running down their throat for 6-8 yards a carry up and down the field like they did to UNC in the 2nd half, it's gonna be a long day for BYU because their offense isn't going to score a ton on this defense.

 

[peadeam]

I’ve watched TCU several times this year and I feel like people are giving them too much credit for their name. That looks like a bad team and BYU looked to be about equal in that game. This reminds me of the last time we played BYU

 

[jerseyborn1971]

I’ve watched TCU several times this year and I feel like people are giving them too much credit for their name. That looks like a bad team and BYU looked to be about equal in that game. This reminds me of the last time we played BYU

I watched them lose to UCF by more points than BYU beat them by. They are not good.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Actually crazy, SP+ projects it closer than that + it's on the road. Vegas is not buying whatever the Cougars are selling. I wonder how much injuries are a factor.

Good call...typically you don't see lines move too much unless it's a QB. I was surprised it was that high too.

 

[NDPhilly]

Summary of a few ratings systems below:

 

[RudyVerse]

I like and 34-20.

 

[Dale]

All the makings of a Bowen and Shuler legacy game right? Like say what you want about him as a passer but you need to HIT Bear to tackle him. Like true strap up your helmet. He’s a fullback.

 

[RudyVerse]

All the makings of a Bowen and Shuler legacy game right? Like say what you want about him as a passer but you need to HIT Bear to tackle him. Like true strap up your helmet. He’s a fullback.

He’s Aneyas Williams but taking snaps out of pistol.

 

[calvegas04]

We need to leave no doubt.... ND 50 - bywho 10

 

[zelezo vlk]

Summary of a few ratings systems below:


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I knew DokterEntropy was high on ND but 16.5 point favorites over BYU??