‘27 CA/FL WR Osani Gayles (Alabama Verbal)

[NDhoosier]

Bama getting our sloppy seconds is the timeline I was born for

Nah, this is a good pickup. I was hoping ND would take Gayles as the 3rd WR in this class.

 

[HouseofPain]

A team is always going to have low periods after losing an elite coach. Look what happened to ND after Holtz got pushed out. Football is too important to Bama to allow middling teams for long. This coach that they have is so not a fit and it shows.

 

[ndinoxford]

Loy said in the recent Irish illustrated podcast Gayles was coming here but they decided to move on because they expect faison back next year.

 

[allenm5333]

Loy said in the recent Irish illustrated podcast Gayles was coming here but they decided to move on because they expect faison back next year.

Heard that and I hate it

 

[allenm5333]

At some point you gotta budget. Graham and Porter were not cheap. They essentially brought in 7 WR last year

I know. I usually preach that. Just like Gayles a lot. Hopefully 28 has some dudes at wr

 

[rtrn2glory]

Interesting decision but I don't hate another year of Faison either

 

[arrowryan]

2027 Faison > 2027 & 2028 Gayles

 

[NDPhilly]

Very possible they think Brayden Robinson, Bubba Frazier, and JJ Jr are already too similar to spend big $$$ on.

Also think the fact he was choosing between UW and Bama indicates that the top of the sport didn’t view him as a top 100 recruit like his composite grade.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Loy said in the recent Irish illustrated podcast Gayles was coming here but they decided to move on because they expect faison back next year.

so we turn down a borderline 5 star because a guy might come back for his 5th year makes zero sense

 

[Dale]

I think Faison has a real NFL shot. I’m not sure I entirely buy Gayles out, Faison in as being that simple.

Probably more like Porter, Graham, 5 for 5 IN, Gayles out, we also didn’t like him enough to break the budget.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Interesting decision but I don't hate another year of Faison either

What will be interesting is what greathouse decides to do?

 

[TorontoGold]

so we turn down a borderline 5 star because a guy might come back for his 5th year makes zero sense

Gales could be really good, he could even be Jordan Faison!

 

[Dale]

so we turn down a borderline 5 star because a guy might come back for his 5th year makes zero sense

It’s possible they don’t think he’s a 5 star WR

 

[KPENN]

so we turn down a borderline 5 star because a guy might come back for his 5th year makes zero sense

Something tells me there are a lot of things that make zero sense to you

 

[NDFAN2008]

It’s possible they don’t think he’s a 5 star WR

Okay? So we are turning down a 4 star high upside guy? with 105 scholarships

 

[Dale]

Okay? So we are turning down a 4 star high upside guy? with 105 scholarships

Are you asking me or telling me

They are going to have 10 WRs with 3+ years left next season.

 

[NDpendent]

Okay? So we are turning down a 4 star high upside guy? with 105 scholarships

Yes.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

Save the money, keep Faison another year, and then grab another Graham/Porter in the transfer porter at the end of the season anyway.

 

[Irish Man3]

Okay? So we are turning down a 4 star high upside guy? with 105 scholarships

It’s not just about the scholarship numbers. Money is a factor in all of these decisions.

 

[greyhammer90]

Okay? So we are turning down a 4 star high upside guy? with 105 scholarships

Turning down =/= not worth the money he would need to us

 

[Crazy Balki]

Loy said in the recent Irish illustrated podcast Gayles was coming here but they decided to move on because they expect faison back next year.

I don't buy that for a fucking second.

There is no way that Freeman and staff are making that kind of decision based on the notion that Faison is back next year. Dude is a senior and if he has an insane year (which he is absolutely capable of), he is almost certainly gone.

No chance this is what happened. Zilch. Nada.

 

[ndinoxford]

I don't buy that for a fucking second.

There is no way that Freeman and staff are making that kind of decision based on the notion that Faison is back next year. Dude is a senior and if he has an insane year (which he is absolutely capable of), he is almost certainly gone.

No chance this is what happened. Zilch. Nada.

Should clarify, Loy didn’t say he was 100% going to ND but that we had a very good chance of closing if he did visit. Also - probably has more so to do with last years recruiting/portal class than faison potentially returning for one more year.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I think we have enough sub-6 foot WRs. Need a big Shark/Floyd/Claypool guy

 

[Dale]

I just listened. It was what I posted above. He said “we just talked about 5 for 5 passing, like they expect Faison back next year”

Faison was an example of the overall picture that 5 for 5 passing led them to take two commits this cycle because many guys will have an extra year moving forward. Not exclusively a Faison point, a greater picture of the WR room’s eligibility surplus.

 

[irishnd31]

Something tells me there are a lot of things that make zero sense to you

Subtraction. Addition’s tricky friend.

 

[irishandy]

Right now Faison is coming back for 2028, but if he has a big year things would change. CJ is going to have options at WR, I think the 3 G's are going to shine- Greathouse, Gilbert, & Graham. Throw in Porter when he returns and Ian Premer when he opens some eyes on the field.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Right now Faison is coming back for 2028, but if he has a big year things would change. CJ is going to have options at WR, I think the 3 G's are going to shine- Greathouse, Gilbert, & Graham. Throw in Porter when he returns and Ian Premer when he opens some eyes on the field.

also the 2028 WR class is pretty deep so maybe that’s part of the reason

 

[irishandy]

also the 2028 WR class is pretty deep so maybe that’s part of the reason

Agreed and also the 27 class- can't wait for JJ Jr.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Welcome to a soft cap, salary cap era. Gayles is the type of prospect that ND would have never turned down pre-NIL. Then again, they probably wouldn't have been in on him either. But when you spend what ND did to bring Quincy Porter and Myland Graham over from Ohio State and you project out what it will cost to try to convince Jordan Faison to take advantage of the 5-for-5 rule rather than being a mid round NFL Draft pick at the conclusion of 2026, it is what it is. They chose to save some money and get Jackson Coleman, then spent more elsewhere.

 

[allenm5333]

Welcome to a soft cap, salary cap era. Gayles is the type of prospect that ND would have never turned down pre-NIL. Then again, they probably wouldn't have been in on him either. But when you spend what ND did to bring Quincy Porter and Myland Graham over from Ohio State and you project out what it will cost to try to convince Jordan Faison to take advantage of the 5-for-5 rule rather than being a mid round NFL Draft pick at the conclusion of 2026, it is what it is. They chose to save some money and get Jackson Coleman, then spent more elsewhere.

This is where I would love a budget sheet. If gayles was 500k but they showed that money went to Segun and Simien, I am good with it