Kurt “The Truth” Cignetti

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Found something interesting when we talk about what is the secret sauce. Indiana is somewhat unique in that they have 4 coaches for the DL and DBs. Normal is 2 - 3. They have a DEs, DTs, CBs and Safeties Coach. Haines coaches the LBs. Is being hyper prepared really as simple as more coaches? IUs defense specializes in stunts and coverage disguises
I believe Clemson had separate DT and DE coaches during their big run, idk who else has done that since
 

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Found something interesting when we talk about what is the secret sauce. Indiana is somewhat unique in that they have 4 coaches for the DL and DBs. Normal is 2 - 3. They have a DEs, DTs, CBs and Safeties Coach. Haines coaches the LBs. Is being hyper prepared really as simple as more coaches? IUs defense specializes in stunts and coverage disguises
You have to think from a time management standpoint alone it is beneficial for them in terms of efficiency. So long as there is good communication and cross functionality among all those guys, it's probably awesome for the players in terms of development.
 

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I think adjusting assistant coaching allotment should probably flow with trends in the game. Back in the day lots of teams had separate ILB and OLB coaches, but with a trend toward playing more nickel, you could probably take the OLB spot and add an additional DB coach or DL coach.
 

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I think adjusting assistant coaching allotment should probably flow with trends in the game. Back in the day lots of teams had separate ILB and OLB coaches, but with a trend toward playing more nickel, you could probably take the OLB spot and add an additional DB coach or DL coach.

Depends on what you're primarily doing up front.

If you base out of an Odd front, you need to split the OLB/ILB because the technique is different worlds. If you're primarily Even, you eliminate that spot and go Nickels/CB's and Safeties (or however you want to split the secondary in half.)
 

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Kurt Cignetti and staff still recruiting and scouting to the beat of their own drum.

 

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Yep, he has reviews built into his contract, so if things go well, he get pretty much a certain bump; I think it can go the other way as well if IU's season lags, but he hasn't had to worry about that to date at IU.
 

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and according to an IU alumnus at work recently they are getting huge renovations to the stadium so life is pretty good right now for this coach
 

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and according to an IU alumnus at work recently they are getting huge renovations to the stadium so life is pretty good right now for this coach
Can they maintain? that is the question now
Or will they be like Clemson and flash for a few years and then fade?
 

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Can they maintain? that is the question now
Or will they be like Clemson and flash for a few years and then fade?

They are doing the complete opposite of Clemson, embracing the new landscape and going hog wild in it.

I think IU can do this for a long time seeing their commitment to it.


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Clemson won something like 10 games for a decade starting in 2011 and went to 4 title games in 5 years, winning 2 of them. Thats only a flash in the total history of CFB, let’s be real
 

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and according to an IU alumnus at work recently they are getting huge renovations to the stadium so life is pretty good right now for this coach
They just did some major renovations a few years ago, but this is what the Google machine says.

Indiana University is moving forward with significant renovations to Memorial Stadium, focusing on the west side to upgrade premium seating, fan amenities, and technology. Following a record-breaking 2024 season, the project aims to modernize the 65-year-old venue to enhance the overall game-day experience, with HOK acting as the lead design firm.
Key Details on Memorial Stadium Renovations:
  • Focus Area: The next phase targets the west side, including the press box and suite-level areas, aiming to improve seating options and fan-facing amenities.
  • Recent Upgrades: Prior to the 2025 season, the stadium installed a new playing surface and added the "East Side Club" with field-level suites.
  • Project Goals: IU Athletics is working with HOK to create a, "home-field environment" that meets the needs of a modern, competitive Big Ten program.
  • Timeline: While studies and surveys are ongoing as of late 2025, the university continues to advance plans for major structural improvements to the stadium.
 

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Clemson won something like 10 games for a decade starting in 2011 and went to 4 title games in 5 years, winning 2 of them. Thats only a flash in the total history of CFB, let’s be real
exactly. Indiana has been to the playoffs twice and won once. They need to do a lot more before they join the ranks of the football powers. Now if Cig stays and IU keeps spending the money it is quite possible in this day and age for it to happen. We will see
 

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The coach noted Marsh's production at MSU before pivoting to the junior's choice of footwear.

"I didn't love those gold shoes he came out in today," Cignetti told reporters. "He learned what getting your ass ripped is all about. I don't know if that happened to him very often at Michigan State. That was before practice started."


 

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I feel like this is something that a coach should not be throwing out at a press conference
I'd tend to agree, but a cocky mfer's "standard" just resulted in one of the best seasons this century, so I'm not surprised he is making an example out of his $2M transfer WR not meeting it. I also don't know how clearly Marsh had been told not to wear gold cleats.

Starts at the question about Marsh

 

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I don't think he has a persona, I've only seen him be one way.


"Red Ass Crew Cut Crank" is def a persona... especially for IU sports

I question how long it will work in college these days? But it's sure worked for him short term

I'd short his long term success
 

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IU feels like a program if they don't make the semis next year, the shine comes off and they can go back to being a solid, not great, team under Cignetti. It will be interesting to see how they fair now that teams are going to copy the model of grabbing the best experienced players from "lesser" programs. The pool just got a lot smaller now that more big money teams are fishing in it versus going after younger highly recruited players that weren't happy with their playing time.
 

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He's the new Saban.


Way too early for that talk but he has already accomplished things that Saban couldn’t. He’s won the B1G championship and a NC for a program that used to dwell in the cellar of the B1G. Saban never did those things despite coaching a traditional power in the B1G.
 

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Their evaluation model seems to look at actual football production, especially in the portal, and not stars or potential. I think it gets overlooked but maybe I'm wrong.

Hard for me to sit here and say this won't last when nobody thought it was going to get this far. 2024 was a fluke. Then 2025 happened, now that's a fluke. It went from one year wonder to two year wonder, and in year three there really is only one way to go and that would be down after a 15-0 season.

I just know the last team to beat them. If there is one thing I'll make sure to keep fresh in anyone's mind on said subject, it's that.
 

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IU feels like a program if they don't make the semis next year, the shine comes off and they can go back to being a solid, not great, team under Cignetti. It will be interesting to see how they fair now that teams are going to copy the model of grabbing the best experienced players from "lesser" programs. The pool just got a lot smaller now that more big money teams are fishing in it versus going after younger highly recruited players that weren't happy with their playing time.
I don't think anyone can question how good of a coach Cignetti is at this point nor his methods. IU had nothing from a football perspective sense historically and he brought them a title quickly in arguably the toughest sport to do it. Him and Cuban is a combination that will deliver a good potentially great team for a while.
 

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IU feels like a program if they don't make the semis next year, the shine comes off and they can go back to being a solid, not great, team under Cignetti. It will be interesting to see how they fair now that teams are going to copy the model of grabbing the best experienced players from "lesser" programs. The pool just got a lot smaller now that more big money teams are fishing in it versus going after younger highly recruited players that weren't happy with their playing time.
I think it “feels” that way because as much as the sport has changed so much behind the scenes the product looks the same. So seeing IU do well feels like a video game thing. As long as the rules stay the same and the money keeps flowing they should be a problem. Once he leaves they will pay the next guy top dollar. College football should plateau a little and the dust shall settle but what that looks when it does… hard to tell.
 

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I think it “feels” that way because as much as the sport has changed so much behind the scenes the product looks the same. So seeing IU do well feels like a video game thing. As long as the rules stay the same and the money keeps flowing they should be a problem. Once he leaves they will pay the next guy top dollar. College football should plateau a little and the dust shall settle but what that looks when it does… hard to tell.
It pains me to say this but Cignetti is clearly a good coach. With that said, he's an insufferable arrogant loudmouth, his 2024 team was a total fraud, and we would've beaten them this last year too.
 

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It pains me to say this but Cignetti is clearly a good coach. With that said, he's an insufferable arrogant loudmouth, his 2024 team was a total fraud, and we would've beaten them this last year too.
This is where I’m at. And this is a spiteful ND board, why should we change our thread title for him? Still Curt “the fraud” in my book
 
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