‘24 MI WR Nick Marsh (Indiana Transfer)

[laughingirish92]

They are playing the game better than ND right now, ND and the staff need to step it up

they aren't playing the game good enough because i'll take our top 5 rated 26 class over the 30 something rated 26 class they signed

 

[calvegas04]

they aren't playing the game good enough because i'll take our top 5 rated 26 class over the 30 something rated 26 class they signed

We should be able to land top classes and play the portal

 

[Blazers46]

Just about anyone who is honest (i.e., not paid to have a different opinion) knows we get screwed by the CFP. USC doesn't want us because they want a game with 90% odds of winning, not ~50% or whatever when we play them. And IU is good now, losing a recruit to them is not embarrassing.

We just scheduled BYU. I don't think scheduling is a huge problem. Go 12-0 and 11-1 and we're in no matter the schedule.

Yeah, it’s embarrassing… I get they are the #1 team in the country and I get they have money to spend and are… but it’s still IU. A lot about sports is perception and opinion and a lot people who hate ND are getting validated. It’s piling on and ND needs to punch them all back in the mouth, instead (today at least) we lost a recruit to IU Bloomington… tomorrow might be different but I can still piss and moan about it today.

 

[benneboy]

Some of y'all are acting like this we should be satisfied with a healthy dose of this which is probably partly true. But also... off the heels of we getting screwed out of the playoffs, all the media outlets slandering the football program about meaningless garbage and false narratives, and the program supposedly going all in on being the team to beat in 2026. To now get punched in the mouth out the gate isn't the start we were looking for.

Indiana has little to do with it in my mind. Couldve been Georgia Ohio State. We're supposed to be the ones everyone should be afraid of. This doesn't end that but hasn't started screaming out the gates either.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Indiana got Turbo Richard today as well as Marsh and Hoover. They have had 13 players visit over the last two days and are predicted to land many of them. Marsh probably just hit it off with a bunch of them.

 

[317Irish]

So Marsh “committed” to IU, correct? What does that mean for transfers? Can ne not take any more visits?

 

[NDWarrior]

Does anyone know what's brewing with Isiah Canion? I haven't seen any posts about where he may be visiting just yet which is crazy in this fast moving, frenetic TP market!

He's rated just above Marsh in the 24/7 TP rankings.

 

[Sea Turtle]

So Marsh “committed” to IU, correct? What does that mean for transfers? Can ne not take any more visits?

Think he's signed now. Preston Zachman just committed as well.

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

Quick summary of IU's commits today:

• - TCU QB Josh Hoover
• - Boston College RB Turbo Richard
• - Michigan State WR Nick Marsh
• - Kansas State edge Tobi Osunsanmi
• - Wisconsin S Preston Zachman
• - Cincinnati S Jiquan Sanks

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Quick summary of IU's commits today:

• - TCU QB Josh Hoover wouldn’t play at ND
• - Boston College RB Turbo Richard wouldn’t start at ND may play
• - Michigan State WR Nick Marsh
• - Kansas State edge Tobi Osunsanmi wouldn’t start at ND
• - Wisconsin S Preston Zachman wouldn’t start at ND
• - Cincinnati S Jiquan Sanks wouldn’t start at ND

FIFY.

 

[pumpdog20]

Quick summary of IU's commits today:

• - TCU QB Josh Hoover
• - Boston College RB Turbo Richard
• - Michigan State WR Nick Marsh
• - Kansas State edge Tobi Osunsanmi
• - Wisconsin S Preston Zachman
• - Cincinnati S Jiquan Sanks

We probably aren't too worried about his 1.6 yards per carry if we had to play him again.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Quick summary of IU's commits today:

• - TCU QB Josh Hoover
• - Boston College RB Turbo Richard
• - Michigan State WR Nick Marsh
• - Kansas State edge Tobi Osunsanmi
• - Wisconsin S Preston Zachman
• - Cincinnati S Jiquan Sanks

I'm not going to cast any shade towards Indiana. They've had a good start towards building their Portal class. Hoover is a really solid, veteran QB. Richard is serviceable. Marsh is a top 5 WR in the Portal class. Osunsanmi is a top 5-7 DE in this Portal Class. The safeties are ok. Decent job overall considering how poorly (relative to the top teams nationally) they recruit out of high school. They're doing what they need to do to stay competitive after they lose a ton this off-season.

 

[peadeam]

At some point, this is going to catch up to them. I can’t believe you can turn a roster over every year and be consistently good. If ND was doing this we’d all be pissing ourselves. Even more than normal…

 

[JerseyIrishMan]

I'm not going to cast any shade towards Indiana. They've had a good start towards building their Portal class. Hoover is a really solid, veteran QB. Richard is serviceable. Marsh is a top 5 WR in the Portal class. Osunsanmi is a top 5-7 DE in this Portal Class. The safeties are ok. Decent job overall considering how poorly (relative to the top teams nationally) they recruit out of high school. They're doing what they need to do to stay competitive after they lose a ton this off-season.

Agreed. As much as people want to dismiss it, Cig has something brewing in Bloomington. IMO as long as he is there, in a few years we'll probably lose a handful of recruits to them every other cycle or so that we'd otherwise expect to land. They're investing in football pretty heavily down there.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The contingent of fans out here that start demanding things when some type of personnel situation doesn't go the way they want is pretty funny more often than not. What is the answer, in the end?

I really don't know what to think of Indiana at this point. They've had their two best football seasons ever and are probably the best team in America. They are prohibitive favorites to win the National Championship right now.

 

[irish4ever]

The contingent of fans out here that start demanding things when some type of personnel situation doesn't go the way they want is pretty funny more often than not. What is the answer, in the end?

I really don't know what to think of Indiana at this point. They've had their two best football seasons ever and are probably the best team in America. They are prohibitive favorites to win the National Championship right now.

Yeah, #1 and undefeated (their schedule wasn't exactly a gauntlet though and should have lost to both Iowa and P$U) but the BEST team is VERY questionable. Hey, they don't have to recruit, just window shop and buy a team. Has College sports ever gone astray from years ago where one had to cheat to pay off players to come play.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Greg Gabriel in a thread on II said no way Marsh was making it to campus. The bag was way too big from IU. Someone else mentioned after the Rose Bowl, they received some major donations as well.

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[NDPhilly]

Relative to TT, they likely saved several million by taking Hoover. They also aren’t spending anywhere near us in HS recruiting (yet).

 

[Irish5Saint]

Greg Gabriel in a thread on II said no way Marsh was making it to campus. The bag was way too big from IU. Someone else mentioned after the Rose Bowl, they received some major donations as well.

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Someone theorized this: Marsh got a huge bag that Cignetti said would evaporate if he left the room without committing.

I think that’s the most accurate theory I’ve seen.

 

[OrlaNDomer]

At some point, this is going to catch up to them. I can’t believe you can turn a roster over every year and be consistently good. If ND was doing this we’d all be pissing ourselves. Even more than normal…

Yeah, knowing many FSU fans that thought you could do this year-in year-out just to have a melt down last year and fall to complete depression this year has proven to me the transfer portal can't be relied upon. Maybe (almost certainly) Cignetti is a better coach and Indiana is throwing around more money than FSU, but FSU went out and brought in what was considered to be a top 3 transfer portal QB and many other top transfer portal prospects just to not make a bowl back to back years. It could easily happen to Indiana if they don't continue to hit on QB every year.

 

[IrishLax]

Someone theorized this: Marsh got a huge bag that Cignetti said would evaporate if he left the room without committing.

I think that’s the most accurate theory I’ve seen.

So we are back to the "good 'ol days" of hard sell recruiting. Except that everyone can throw around bags now not just teams down south and it's concentrated into a one week blitz of activity.

 

[ndfanatic78]

I think it's fair to question whether Indiana's success is sustainable - they're not really recruiting top high school players, and it'll be hard to maintain such a high hit rate in the portal now that the JMU pipeline has dried up - but to say they haven't beaten legit teams is a little ridiculous at this point. They are very good, and that's all Cignetti.

You realize the JMU players that are kicking the shit out of 5 stars were ranked lower than the players he is currently brining in out of high school right? How do you know they aren’t going to be underrated just like the players he brought to JMU? He will then supplement with transfers for any holes. How is it not sustainable.

 

[IRISHbluehen]

This year feels more similar to NFL free agency, get the first visit and dont let them leave the facility. May have been similar last year but dont remember it being as severe.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Or someone working for him is

You do know that he was Nick Saban’s talent evaluator right?

 

[MacIrish75]

You realize the JMU players that are kicking the shit out of 5 stars were ranked lower than the players he is currently brining in out of high school right? How do you know they aren’t going to be underrated just like the players he brought to JMU?

His JMU guys are 24/25 years old in many cases. I saw a tweet--maybe even on here somewhere--that compared the age of the IU starting 22 to other programs. It'll be interesting to see what they do when IU is competing with more comparably-aged players ("kids") and not literal grown men.

 

[ndfanatic78]

His JMU guys are 24/25 years old in many cases. I saw a tweet--maybe even on here somewhere--that compared the age of the IU starting 22 to other programs. It'll be interesting to see what they do when IU is competing with more comparably-aged players ("kids") and not literal grown men.

What about the guys that didn’t leave with him that just went to the playoffs? Are you going to come back with they got waxed so they actually suck. It’s JMU and look what he did for them. I don’t care what their ages are. Time will prove all.

 

[IrishLax]

His JMU guys are 24/25 years old in many cases. I saw a tweet--maybe even on here somewhere--that compared the age of the IU starting 22 to other programs. It'll be interesting to see what they do when IU is competing with more comparably-aged players ("kids") and not literal grown men.

Yeah it's interesting because their "average" age of starter is allegedly like 22.5 years old. They have basically a perfect blend of:
1) Veteran proven transfers like Mendoza, Coogan, etc.
2) The best players from JMU
3) The couple good homegrown IU players

I saw a stat that 14 out of 22 starters are transfers but a big chunk of that 14 are guys that were developed at JMU. Getting to take a half a dozen really good players from a top G5, then being able to cull Indiana's roster of all the bad players but keep a half dozen good guys, and then adding another 8 veteran impact transfers is a heck of a blend... they are also very fortunate to have stayed incredibly healthy at almost all positions over the course of the year. Nobody really knows if the bottom 50 guys on the roster are any good at all.

 

[IrishLax]

You do know that he was Nick Saban’s talent evaluator right?

The funniest thing to me about people saying Marsh "isn't that good" is that you have to believe that you know more than Cignetti who allegedly dropped a gigantic bag on his as his top skill position target. Like I get if you want to argue with randos on the internet about NFL draft rankings, but clearly Cignetti thinks he's elite and Cig has quite the track record of having an eye for talent.

 

[Dale]

The funniest thing to me about people saying Marsh "isn't that good" is that you have to believe that you know more than Cignetti who allegedly dropped a gigantic bag on his as his top skill position target. Like I get if you want to argue with randos on the internet about NFL draft rankings, but clearly Cignetti thinks he's elite and Cig has quite the track record of having an eye for talent.

Who said Marsh “isn’t that good”?

 

[lefty5258]

Greg Gabriel in a thread on II said no way Marsh was making it to campus. The bag was way too big from IU. Someone else mentioned after the Rose Bowl, they received some major donations as well.

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genuine question who is greg gabriel? made another other comment "It's not the money, it's how it went down. Frankly I feel it's disgusting." about the Marsh-IU visit/commitment. Just trying to understand who he is/how plugged in he is