2025 College Football Playoffs

[arrowryan]

Mizzou?

If Vanderbilt was any other school not named "Vanderbilt," they'd be getting in.

Yeah Mizzou was another miraculous fringe top 25 team that beat absolutely no one with a pulse

 

[NDPhilly]

Our SC win is so underrated bc they blew the Illinois game and have chronically underperformed for years. They are closer to Bama than Bama is to us.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I think this is more likely:

7. ND
8. Ole Miss
9. Oklahoma
10. Alabama

Than

7. Ole Miss
8. OU
9. Alabama
10. ND


Doesn't make any sense why ND drops when they have already been given the benefit of the doubt and Bama/OU both struggled against unranked conference foes (OU at home nonetheless) and Ole Miss is now coachless and their staff will probably get gutted.

Ole Miss situation is unfortunate, but I don't ultimately see them punishing the student athletes to the point of them missing the CFP altogether. I reall do think Bama needs to win to get in, and ND has looked better via the eye test than OU, and the advanced metrics agree.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Help me out with FEI regarding garbage time as it pertains to ND vs Syracuse and Stanford...where those games were over so early that the rest of the game felt like actual garbage time. What is the threshold?

 

[EvilleIrish]

That’s just not true.. Name the factors?

Big 10 game doesnt matter..

ACC game doesn’t matter..

SEC game can help but ultimately doesn’t matter..

Tell me how ND doesn’t make it with a BYU loss?

Do you think Miami jumps them tonight?

I'm not sure Miami jumps them tonight...but I think Bama does which would inch Miami even closer. Say BYU does lose and now you have ND at 10 and Miami at 11, wouldn't head to head then come into play? Certainly a possibility.

 

[Kingbish01]

Just talked to a buddy that made a good point, he said whoever is ranked higher tonight (Bama or ND) is safe from a BYU win. He can't see the committee having Bama jump ND after that AUB game but we both think it happens.

In short, if ND is ranked higher than Bama tonight and UGA beats them and BYU wins...He thinks Bama would be out not ND.

 

[NDRock]

Mizzou?

If Vanderbilt was any other school not named "Vanderbilt," they'd be getting in.

Yeah, same with Indiana last year. If they were another Big 10 team and went 11-1, nobody would have been politicking for 3 loss teams to be put in over them.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Just talked to a buddy that made a good point, he said whoever is ranked higher tonight (Bama or ND) is safe from a BYU win. He can't see the committee having Bama jump ND after that AUB game but we both think it happens.

In short, if ND is ranked higher than Bama tonight and UGA beats them and BYU wins...He thinks Bama would be out not ND.

This is where I'm at how can the committee justify putting Bama ahead of us tonight when they barely beat Auburn. Also if Bama gets beat by 14 to Georgia and BYU somehow wins it gives the committee enough reason to leave Bama out. If they thought we were better than bama last week what gave them enough this week to rank Bama ahead of us?

 

[Riddickulous]

I'm not sure Miami jumps them tonight...but I think Bama does which would inch Miami even closer. Say BYU does lose and now you have ND at 10 and Miami at 11, wouldn't head to head then come into play? Certainly a possibility.

If the committee thought Miami deserved it, they'd already be ranked ahead of ND.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Just talked to a buddy that made a good point, he said whoever is ranked higher tonight (Bama or ND) is safe from a BYU win. He can't see the committee having Bama jump ND after that AUB game but we both think it happens.

In short, if ND is ranked higher than Bama tonight and UGA beats them and BYU wins...He thinks Bama would be out not ND.

This is a solid way of looking at it.

 

[MPClinton22]

I wouldn't say they're "middling." They legitimately are probably top 15 teams. I can't think of more than a few that I'd say are objectively better than them. Agreed on the last part.

Yeah middling is definitely an exaggeration - but they're not elite/the behemoths of years past. And the self-fulfilling prophecy of starting with half the top 25 being SEC teams -> all SEC teams taking "good" losses, and overblown wins needs to settle down

 

[Wild Bill]

I'm not sure Miami jumps them tonight...but I think Bama does which would inch Miami even closer. Say BYU does lose and now you have ND at 10 and Miami at 11, wouldn't head to head then come into play? Certainly a possibility.

It’s possible, sure. The problem is that nobody actually thinks Miami is the better team. Not the coaches, not the AP, not Vegas, not the computers, not the committee. If that doesn’t change tonight, I doubt the committee is suddenly going to change its mind and decide Miami is better than ND because Bama won and BYU lost.

 

[stlnd01]

Just talked to a buddy that made a good point, he said whoever is ranked higher tonight (Bama or ND) is safe from a BYU win. He can't see the committee having Bama jump ND after that AUB game but we both think it happens.

In short, if ND is ranked higher than Bama tonight and UGA beats them and BYU wins...He thinks Bama would be out not ND.

This is the trouble. They’d be rewarding a team for a bad win in order to ensure a pre-determined outcome a week from now. It’s disingenuous.

 

[PolishDomer]

That would make no sense. They struggled against a 5-6 team. There is no way they jump us.

I think all the people forget Saban is no longer there...they have not looked like the Bama of old...look more midlevel this year tbh

 

[GATTACA!]

I'm not sure Miami jumps them tonight...but I think Bama does which would inch Miami even closer. Say BYU does lose and now you have ND at 10 and Miami at 11, wouldn't head to head then come into play? Certainly a possibility.

The committee has said this can’t happen. Idk why you keep insisting on ignoring that. If we’re ahead of Miami after tonight we will end the season ahead of Miami. End of story.

 

[Kingbish01]

This is the trouble. They’d be rewarding a team for a bad win in order to ensure a pre-determined outcome a week from now. It’s disingenuous.

You are right, and I agree. My buddy and I both think it happens but for different reasons. He thinks they need to do it tonight as they can't do it after a Bama loss, and I (gulp here it comes) thinks it happens because of FanDuel. Not joking

But the frustrating part is that Bama has done nothing the last week to justify a jump, so to your main point....I agree. How do you have ND ahead of them all this time except for tonight?? Ridiculous, hope it doesn't happen!

Side note: My buddy is a UGA grad and die hard fan. He said on his version of IE, they all agree that the two teams they don't wanna see until the championship game are OSU and ND...and they are all waiting to see what IU looks like in the B10 championship to see if they need to worry about them because at the moment they think they beat IU by 20.

 

[NorthDakota]

Does it really mean Bama jumps ND or does it mean Bama is in win or lose because they made the SEC championship game and won’t get penalized for it. I get those are strong odds indicating a jump is possible.

If they are in no matter what then I guess they've jumped ND regardless of what number is there

 

[Kingbish01]

If they are in no matter what then I guess they've jumped ND regardless of what number is there

I think they are in regardless and Miami is out, but a 34-13 ass kicking to end the season and give you a 3rd loss HAS to mean something.

 

[sfk324]

Their excuse for losing to FSU was that they didn't have Jam Miller.

If they get blown out by Georgia, that will be the excuse again. I will be shocked if Jam plays.

Anyone who makes that argument is dim. FSU stinks. If you're half as good as Bama thinks they are, losing one player should be irrelevant.

 

[NDPhilly]

FWIW - Bama is +920 to NOT make the playoffs now on FanDuel. Basically 10%. So not a sure thing.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I'm sure that the committee will feel some pressure to include Bama this year given their "controversial" exclusion last year. Will they be able to make an unbiased decision given that pressure? I don't know.

Bama heads will explode if they are the first team off the cut line again.

 

[Kingbish01]

FWIW - Bama is +920 to NOT make the playoffs now on FanDuel. Basically 10%. So not a sure thing.

+920 is not a sure thing and they still have a game to play. UGA spanks them the odds will change. But as of right now, they look good to make it.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[Riddickulous]

I'm sure that the committee will feel some pressure to include Bama this year given their "controversial" exclusion last year. Will they be able to make an unbiased decision given that pressure? I don't know.

Bama heads will explode if they are the first team off the cut line again.

They can find solace in their 6 national titles in the last 16 years

 

[Irish#1]

I'm sure that the committee will feel some pressure to include Bama this year given their "controversial" exclusion last year. Will they be able to make an unbiased decision given that pressure? I don't know.

Bama heads will explode if they are the first team off the cut line again.

I don't see how they justify a 3 loss team even if they missed last year. We may need to do welfare checks on Bishop and TTT .

 

[thekid33]

The committee shouldn't overthink this. Drop Ole Miss to 10th. Still in the field as of now, but it's an acknowledgement of the fact that it's really impossible to evaluate them. If BYU pulls an upset of Texas Tech then you can use Kiffin leaving to drop them out. But, you bank on that not happening. If Bama loses to Georgia you can even drop them to 10 and move Ole Miss to 9, assuming you even keep Bama in at that point. If not, move Ole Miss to 9 and put Miami at 10.

 

[WildMan1]

I'm not sure Miami jumps them tonight...but I think Bama does which would inch Miami even closer. Say BYU does lose and now you have ND at 10 and Miami at 11, wouldn't head to head then come into play? Certainly a possibility.

The committee already directly compared ND & Miami in the same grouping & we still came out on top.

Since then, we blew out Stanford & they blew out Pitt. One of their losses got worse with SMU losing & one of ours did with A&M losing.

Nothing will happen that would elevate Miami above us at this point if we’ve already been grouped & compared.

 

[burmafrd1944]

The committee has said this can’t happen. Idk why you keep insisting on ignoring that. If we’re ahead of Miami after tonight we will end the season ahead of Miami. End of story.

he is a troll no logic intelligence or common sense required

 

[Irish Norseman]

I’ll ask again, why is Oklahoma thought of so highly? They should be behind us. And as far as the playoffs go, we need to continue to root for whoever is playing the SEC teams so their status can be dropped down a peg. Last years playoff saw Tenn and Georgia take it on the chin and TX getting lucky as hell on 4th and 15 to beat AZ St. we need to hope this year is similar so that people keep seeing SEC teams lose and over time they can’t be propped up because “we beat a ranked Auburn team that almost beat Bama so that 3-9 is deceiving”. Oh wait that’s literally what Oklahoma is saying. Fuck them!

 

[Wild Bill]

I’ll ask again, why is Oklahoma thought of so highly? They should be behind us. And as far as the playoffs go, we need to continue to root for whoever is playing the SEC teams so their status can be dropped down a peg. Last years playoff saw Tenn and Georgia take it on the chin and TX getting lucky as hell on 4th and 15 to beat AZ St. we need to hope this year is similar so that people keep seeing SEC teams lose and over time they can’t be propped up because “we beat a ranked Auburn team that almost beat Bama so that 3-9 is deceiving”. Oh wait that’s literally what Oklahoma is saying. Fuck them!

Timing of their big wins and losses probably more than anything else. I think the orginal ranking came right after they beat TN, which looked like a good win at the time so tehy were ranked around 12. Couple weeks later, they beat bama and here we are. If they lost to Texas right before the rankings, my guess is that they would have been positioned a couple spots lower on the original ranking, and that could have made the difference between being in or out.