'23 MO RB Jeremiyah Love (Notre Dame Signee)

[PolishDomer]

Sorry guys, I don't see it. This isn't soccer. If it was easy to knock a star RB out of the game by hitting them in the ribs after a tackle, it would be done constantly. It was just rotten luck at the worst possible time. Sucks that it cost him the record and maybe the Heisman.

I agree with you greyhammer...looks like they were just trying to stop Love...i didnt see anything intentional.

 

[Irish#1]

Unfortunately, that game took Love out of the running. I think he'll get an invite, but you have to wonder if the voters will even know he put up some impressive numbers before getting hurt.

 

[Rocketman84]

Do post season stats not count towards the rushing record?

Yes, they do

 

[BeatSC]

Unfortunately, that game too Love out of the running. I think he'll get an invite, but you have to wonder if the voters will even know he put up some impressive numbers before getting hurt.

I still think it comes down to how well Mendoza plays against the real deal D. He struggles mightily against Penn State and Iowa. Runs up numbers playing from ahead against sub par teams. Carr is a better draft prospect. The Heisman committee should want a winner who is not another wash out in the Pros. Love is your best bet for a high draft pick and successful career at the next level and btw the best player in CFB. Mendoza would be another John Huarte at best in the NFL. Mendoza is Gino Torreta 2.0

Love has the backstory and stayed loyal to his team. These guys jumping around winning on a stacked team is BS. ND could have given the ball a lot more to Love but they didn’t do anything to pad his numbers or change their game plan. I would say Denbrock that dipshit did Love and ND no favors with 10 Carrie’s against Miami. Huge audience. Put that game in Denbrock 100%.

 

[317Irish]

That play did not get nearly the amount of discussion it should have during the broadcast or afterwards. A player seemingly intentionally trying to hurt a Heisman candidate is a big deal. We collectively watch thousands of individual tackles during each football season and how often do you see that happening, ever? Reeks of intentional, and dirty, to me.

You have to consider how busy Osweiler and the other d-bag were with all the shitting on ND, bitching about how one-aided it was and how much time they still had left, questioning Freeman’s decision to leave players in, and hyping up Miami’s case for the playoffs. There just wasn’t enough time to discuss the events that were unfolding on the field, even if impacted one players case for Heisman.
I swear I just need to watch the ND games on mute going forward. Ignorance is bliss and all.

 

[RudyVerse]

 

[TorontoGold]

274 sports
Love playing another year of college ball
LSU?

How did these three things not stop you.

 

[BeatSC]

You mean Lane begins buying his new roster.

 

[bumpdaddy]

Sorry guys, I don't see it. This isn't soccer. If it was easy to knock a star RB out of the game by hitting them in the ribs after a tackle, it would be done constantly. It was just rotten luck at the worst possible time. Sucks that it cost him the record and maybe the Heisman.

Here's a different angle:



It looks intentional to me, especially when he keeps his entire body weight on that one knee as he gets up. He knew what he was doing with his knee as he hit him and afterwards. It wasn't incidental. He was trying to hurt Love with that knee.

Whether or not it's easy to knock a RB out of a game by kneeing them is irrelevant, but taking your assertion at face value, if intentional knees to the midsection were allowed in football, I'm fairly confident we'd see a lot more RBs with rib injuries.

 

[NDisme]

It’s a parody account

 

[BeauBenken]

I definitely thought he was trying to put the weight of his body into that knee and on Love. He didnt even need to be in on the tackle. But those are one of the little cheap blows that happen a lot in football and are hard to prevent. Only really noticeable because of who it happened to and because they got hurt.

 

[BeatSC]

Here's a different angle:



It looks intentional to me, especially when he keeps his entire body weight on that one knee as he gets up. He knew what he was doing with his knee as he hit him and afterwards. It wasn't incidental. He was trying to hurt Love with that knee.

Whether or not it's easy to knock a RB out of a game by kneeing them is irrelevant, but taking your assertion at face value, if intentional knees to the midsection were allowed in football, I'm fairly confident we'd see a lot more RBs with rib injuries.

Yep that was intentional AF. Doesn’t look like it should have caused as much discomfort as it did but worthy of a look from NCAA officials. Hard to. Price during the game for a penalty but should get the jerk suspended for next season for the opening game.

 

[greyhammer90]

I definitely thought he was trying to put the weight of his body into that knee and on Love. He didnt even need to be in on the tackle. But those are one of the little cheap blows that happen a lot in football and are hard to prevent. Only really noticeable because of who it happened to and because they got hurt.

That's really my point when I said that this isn't soccer. You could say that the defender putting his weight on his knee getting up was intentional, but that's a level of "dirty" that's extremely normal for football. I don't know how anyone who's played football in the high school level or above could act appalled at that footage. Defenders often try to make offensive players experience pain in hundreds of little ways. Most of the time its simply showing a lack of care about what's underneath their knees/feet when they are getting up. Offensive linemen aren't trying to get defenders off piles quickly because they need the exercise.

 

[Irish#1]

I still think it comes down to how well Mendoza plays against the real deal D. He struggles mightily against Penn State and Iowa. Runs up numbers playing from ahead against sub par teams. Carr is a better draft prospect. The Heisman committee should want a winner who is not another wash out in the Pros. Love is your best bet for a high draft pick and successful career at the next level and btw the best player in CFB. Mendoza would be another John Huarte at best in the NFL. Mendoza is Gino Torreta 2.0

Love has the backstory and stayed loyal to his team. These guys jumping around winning on a stacked team is BS. ND could have given the ball a lot more to Love but they didn’t do anything to pad his numbers or change their game plan. I would say Denbrock that dipshit did Love and ND no favors with 10 Carrie’s against Miami. Huge audience. Put that game in Denbrock 100%.

Allow me to play devil's advocate.
- Just as easily, you could say Love padded his numbers against sub par teams. You have to take into account the entire body of work.
- The Heisman isn't about projecting who might have the best pro career. I haven't done any research, but I would guess most Heisman winners pro careers don't come close to their collegiate career.
- After awarding the Heisman to Johnny Football, I would say the voters don't really care about back stories, character, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I will be as happy as everyone else if he wins. I just think some voters will only see his stats against Stanford and not know the entire story.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

It was intentional. Zero doubt.

 

[CoachB]

Here's a different angle:



It looks intentional to me, especially when he keeps his entire body weight on that one knee as he gets up. He knew what he was doing with his knee as he hit him and afterwards. It wasn't incidental. He was trying to hurt Love with that knee.

Whether or not it's easy to knock a RB out of a game by kneeing them is irrelevant, but taking your assertion at face value, if intentional knees to the midsection were allowed in football, I'm fairly confident we'd see a lot more RBs with rib injuries.

No kidding. It was 100% intentional. Anyone that has played knows you don't knee people and push down with your knees to get off people.

 

[ozzman]

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

They had zero chance at winning with or without Love, why be a little bitch about it?
Hopefully karma puts 14 on crutches for a few months in the near future.

 

[Kingbish01]

They had zero chance at winning with or without Love, why be a little bitch about it?
Hopefully karma puts 14 on crutches for a few months in the near future.

I love when Karma snaps ACLs

 

[ulukinatme]

Sorry guys, I don't see it. This isn't soccer. If it was easy to knock a star RB out of the game by hitting them in the ribs after a tackle, it would be done constantly. It was just rotten luck at the worst possible time. Sucks that it cost him the record and maybe the Heisman.

I'm pretty sure he was already on the ground, down, and #14 came in for the shot. I would have liked to see if he went up to him afterwards to shake Love's hand, that would have been the sportsmanlike thing to do.

 

[ozzman]

 

[bcole2]

J you still have 4 more games to go my man! Just avoiding that Instagram picture upload limit I bet. *trembles nervously*

 

[TracyGraham]

I agree with you greyhammer...looks like they were just trying to stop Love...i didnt see anything intentional.

To me it was 100% intentional from the start. Not sure how anyone that has fallen in sports would do that on accident unless they got pushed from behind. I dont think he tried to break a rib or even knock him out necessarily(I don't think anyone could do that on purpose even if they wanted), but he definitely was being dirty/mean spirited/trying to punish Love and it seems to have destroyed his last chance to wow any heisman voters that may have been on the fence. Plus he even tries to give him a little kick at the end too it seems.

 

[IRISHFAN76]

Hopefully he's not shutting it down for draft. Dont think he would but kind of cryptic

 

[Riddickulous]

Hopefully he's not shutting it down for draft. Dont think he would but kind of cryptic

0% chance he opts out if they make the CFP.

 

[mango4]

Relax bedwetters

 

[rtrn2glory]

I'm quite the bed wetter myself but I'd bet my life he's playing if we're in the playoffs

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Call my a conspiracy theorist but I think the staff and perhaps even JLove knew that an injury to him would impact the perception of the playoff comittee. I'm not saying that they would have put his health in jeopardy but they knew he had to be in a meaningful play and make things look OK.

 

[Rocketman84]

Sorry guys, I don't see it. This isn't soccer. If it was easy to knock a star RB out of the game by hitting them in the ribs after a tackle, it would be done constantly. It was just rotten luck at the worst possible time. Sucks that it cost him the record and maybe the Heisman.

 

[BeatSC]

Allow me to play devil's advocate.
- Just as easily, you could say Love padded his numbers against sub par teams. You have to take into account the entire body of work.
- The Heisman isn't about projecting who might have the best pro career. I haven't done any research, but I would guess most Heisman winners pro careers don't come close to their collegiate career.
- After awarding the Heisman to Johnny Football, I would say the voters don't really care about back stories, character, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I will be as happy as everyone else if he wins. I just think some voters will only see his stats against Stanford and not know the entire story.

Just looking at how often Price rotated in and got yards and TDs is proof no padding was going on. Mendoza was still in games while being up over 30 many times. Mendoza is a boring “Who Gives A Shit?” Choice that won’t weather well. Compare highlight reels and we will see a couple receivers make catches of less than ideal throws by Mendoza while Love is making plays often out of nothing. I think we have 9-10 QBs out there that can do what Mendoza has done for the Indiana offense. How many RBs can do what Love has done at his level? None I think. He’s a special player and Mendoza is a step above a game manager on a well coached team playing an underwhelming schedule. Neither Mendoza or Love finished in a blaze of glory. Pavia has done that. If Mendoza lights up the Ohio State defense the trophy will be his. If he shits the bed Love will conquer all!