2025 College Football Playoffs

[tko]

10-2 ND is not going to be left out.

 

[Free Manera]

I think the committee finds a way to include ND assuming they take care of business this week. But there are chaos situations that make it really uncomfortable, i.e. BYU winning the B12 and Bama winning the SEC.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

10-2 ND is not going to be left out.

You know the committee is not immune to public criticism so if it’s close w/ a ton of 10-2 teams, I could see them getting to the point where they use ND as a sacrifical lamb to prove their lack of bias as perceived by idiot fans who think ND is getting undue love.

 

[NorthDakota]

10-2 ND is not going to be left out.

I'm pretty sure ND will be in but they could get left out if enough goes wrong. End of the day, would have no one to blame but themselves for losing games.

 

[SDIrishFan]

I think the committee finds a way to include ND assuming they take care of business this week. But there are chaos situations that make it really uncomfortable, i.e. BYU winning the B12 and Bama winning the SEC.

I don't think Bama winning the SEC matters to ND. Only in the sense of seeding. Georgia, Bama, A&M, Ole Miss, OK are in even if Bama wins the SEC (or even loses the SECCG). OK is out if they get upset and SEC only gets 4.

BYU winning the B12 though, that's troublesome. But I could still see the committee choosing ND over a 2 loss TT team, even if that "upsets the conference championship loser apple cart".

 

[SDIrishFan]

You know the committee is not immune to public criticism so if it’s close w/ a ton of 10-2 teams, I could see them getting to the point where they use ND as a sacrifical lamb to prove their lack of bias as perceived by idiot fans who think ND is getting undue love.

I could also see them doing the opposite and saying, we're the committee, we were appointed to make this decision, and we feel like ND is one of the 12 best teams, who is on a 10-game dominating win streak, and has one of the best shots to win the NC. Sorry, they are in.

And, the rest of you 10-2 teams (oh btw, who have all played one FCS team), that lost to trash teams along the way, one of you is out.

 

[Free Manera]

I don't think Bama winning the SEC matters to ND. Only in the sense of seeding. Georgia, Bama, A&M, Ole Miss, OK are in even if Bama wins the SEC (or even loses the SECCG). OK is out if they get upset and SEC only gets 4.

BYU winning the B12 though, that's troublesome. But I could still see the committee choosing ND over a 2 loss TT team, even if that "upsets the conference championship loser apple cart".

Bama is just a problem if we get some other unfortunate outcomes. Like if Bama wins the SEC AND BYU beats Texas Tech, we're not in an enviable spot. We would then need the committee to kick Texas Tech out (which is punishing Tech for losing a conference championship game, and that is something they say they won't do).

That being said I think they break precedent and do it to get ND in, because I think they will say the B12 wasn't good enough to have 2 teams in or something like that.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I could also see them doing the opposite and saying, we're the committee, we were appointed to make this decision, and we feel like ND is one of the 12 best teams, who is on a 10-game dominating win streak, and has one of the best shots to win the NC. Sorry, they are in.

And, the rest of you 10-2 teams (oh btw, who have all played one FCS team), that lost to trash teams along the way, one of you is out.

I really wish the committee would use that as a talking point when asked about ND. When all is said and done, they can point out that ND has played the same number of FBS opponents as most, if not all; the other CFP ranked teams. It’s a glorified scrimmage & is used as a bye which was clearly on display this past weekend. While FBS teams increased their scholarship limit to 105, I haven’t hear of FCS programs increasing much beyond their 63 scholarships. When it was 85 vs 63, that was a full level of backups that the FBS had over the FCS schools. That’s crucial for depth…especially in mid-November. It’s why you rarely see a competitive game between P4 & FCS in mid-Nov

 

[IrishinSyria]

10-2 ND is not going to be left out.

I don’t think it’s impossible but I do think it would require some really weird shit in the conference championship games. They’re going to want us in and will find a way to get us in if there’s space.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Also, it’s just time to get Navy off our schedule. They’re as good as they’ll ever be this year and we still get no credit for the win. The tradition is great or whatever but not worth the risk of injury and waste of a week prepping for an option attack if there’s no upside.

 

[Green Mountains]

When push comes to shove after the conference championship games, if the dominoes fall against ND.....I'm hopeful that the committee says "which are the best at large teams who can actually compete in the championship?" If it's ND vs Tx Tech or ND vs Miami or ND vs BYU or ND vs Ole Miss (without Lane Kiffin) for the final spot, I would hope that the committee realizes (both from the eye test and from the models) that ND has the best possibility of actually winning 4 consecutive games.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Also, it’s just time to get Navy off our schedule. They’re as good as they’ll ever be this year and we still get no credit for the win. The tradition is great or whatever but not worth the risk of injury and waste of a week prepping for an option attack if there’s no upside.

I think most fans (especially subway alums) would agree with this. It would take someone like Bevacqua really pleading a case w/ the Admin to get Navy off the schedule entirely. Maybe he could get them to negotiate only playing the opener & then in years where that doesn’t work, take a break. Notice how many SEC/B1G schedule Navy despite casuals who claim their a cupcake….I can’t think of any. They know Navy is a pain in the ass. Not that they can’t beat them but the way preparation disrupts the pre-season & in-season practice schedule. Like you said, despite all the extra work to prepare for them, beating them nets zero other than a W which could be achieved against a traditional G6/P4 doormat.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Should Vanderbilt beat Tennessee this week, what's the likelihood of them getting in? Losses are 14-30 at Alabama (a lot closer than the score indicated) and 31-34 at Texas. They'd log wins against VT, South Carolina, LSU, Mizzou, Auburn, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

All of these except for Tennessee are garbage

VT is 3-8 lmao. I know 4-7 in the SEC is the supposed equivalent of 11-1 in any other conference so kudos to you for adding South Carolina. 5-6 Auburn and Kentucky are tier one wins.

No offense to you, but LSU was broken before they played the Commodores. What are we talking about here?

 

[Free Manera]

Also, it’s just time to get Navy off our schedule. They’re as good as they’ll ever be this year and we still get no credit for the win. The tradition is great or whatever but not worth the risk of injury and waste of a week prepping for an option attack if there’s no upside.

The Navy game is literally all downside.

1. It's a sneaky game that you could lose if you don't dedicate an inordinate amount of time to defending their stupid gimmick offense.
2. They play dirty and dive at your knees all day.
3. You get no credit for beating them even when they're good.
4. No one wants to watch that game.

The debt is repaid tenfold, get them outta here.

 

[thekid33]

I love tradition as much as anyone. I respect the concept of "giving your word." But, I think the debt has been repaid. If they want to play every 3-5 years, I'm all for it. But, I'd love to replace them when a generic B1G team for all of the points already mentioned.

 

[stlnd01]

I love tradition as much as anyone. I respect the concept of "giving your word." But, I think the debt has been repaid. If they want to play every 3-5 years, I'm all for it. But, I'd love to replace them when a generic B1G team for all of the points already mentioned.

To be fair we also get no credit for having beaten Purdue, Arkansas, Boise and like half the ACC. Apparently the only opponents that aren't creampuffs are the ones ranked in the Top 20, unless you are in the SEC in which case Kentucky and Mississippi State and Auburn are Murderers Row.

 

[Wild Bill]

When push comes to shove after the conference championship games, if the dominoes fall against ND.....I'm hopeful that the committee says "which are the best at large teams who can actually compete in the championship?" If it's ND vs Tx Tech or ND vs Miami or ND vs BYU or ND vs Ole Miss (without Lane Kiffin) for the final spot, I would hope that the committee realizes (both from the eye test and from the models) that ND has the best possibility of actually winning 4 consecutive games.

I think the comparison in the scenario above really comes down to ND compared to a two loss TX tech.

Would certainly help if Oregon is able to jump both Tech and Ole Miss tomorrow night. ON the other hand, the rankings the following week could have Tech as high as number 3 if Oregon doesn't jump them and both A&M and Georgia lose. I just don’t see a team going from No. 3 to completely out of the playoff because of a CCG loss. A Kiffin-less Ole Miss is anyone's guess.

Best case scenario for the shitty scenario above is Oregon jumps both this week, AnM and Georgia both win, leaving Tech at 6 and Ole Miss at 7 going into CCGs.

 

[OrlaNDomer]

Backdoor chance Miami slips into the ACC CCG which they would hopefully win and remove any chance of 2 bid ACC.

 

[bcole2]

Backdoor chance Miami slips into the ACC CCG which they would hopefully win and remove any chance of 2 bid ACC.

Very backdoor. They need to win, have Virginia Tech beat Virginia, and either Wake beat Duke or NC State beat UNC. Or all have Cal, Wake, and NCST all win.

 

[RDU Irish]

Backdoor chance Miami slips into the ACC CCG which they would hopefully win and remove any chance of 2 bid ACC.

There is a good chance everyone in the ACC ends up with 3 losses - as such only CCG champ gets in and everyone whines about how they deserve 0.

 

[stlnd01]

When push comes to shove after the conference championship games, if the dominoes fall against ND.....I'm hopeful that the committee says "which are the best at large teams who can actually compete in the championship?" If it's ND vs Tx Tech or ND vs Miami or ND vs BYU or ND vs Ole Miss (without Lane Kiffin) for the final spot, I would hope that the committee realizes (both from the eye test and from the models) that ND has the best possibility of actually winning 4 consecutive games.

In all these, it really comes down to "best" vs. "most deserving."

Of these five, we are the "best" team, with the strongest chance of advancing in the playoffs. I think that would be pretty clear to anyone who has watched the games. One could argue (not saying I would, but "one" could) that most if not all of these are more "deserving." Miami beat us. Ole Miss only lost once. BYU/Texas Tech loser will play the "Notre Dame didn't play a CCG" card. Still, I think tie goes to the team capable of making a run, and that's us.

I also think (hope) the committee's primary job is to put on a big, monthlong TV show, and after last year's first-round routs they'll have an incentive to give the 9, 10, 11 spots to teams that will A: draw eyeballs, and B: be able to go into Norman or Eugene or Oxford and actually play a competitive game. Again, that's us. Much moreso than the others.

If it's a close debate, both of those factors help us a lot here.

 

[NorthDakota]

I would really like Miami to lose to Pitt so that they shut up.

 

[Bane]

I would really like Miami to lose to Pitt so that they shut up.

The past month has taught me Miami fans and their media people don't deserve joy or happiness.

 

[jprue24]

Backdoor chance Miami slips into the ACC CCG which they would hopefully win and remove any chance of 2 bid ACC.

Edit - brevity

Miami makes the ACC Championship Game if:
– Miami beats Pitt, AND
– At least TWO of these happen:
1) Duke loses to Wake Forest
2) SMU loses to Cal
3) Virginia loses to Virginia Tech

If that happens, Miami is in Charlotte. Which opponent they get depends on WHICH two (or all three) of Duke/SMU/Virginia lose.

 

[KMac151993]

The funny thing is both teams are led by elite level chokers...I could see Nardz going for it on 4th down at his own goal line only for Beck to come out and fall down taking the snap and fumble it away.

 

[Dale]

Pitt has gonna get shit pumped by Miami.

I think Washington over Oregon is most likely upset. Followed by Miss State if Ole Miss just no shows.

I don’t know how LSU manages to score an offensive point to help us.

 

[bcole2]

I think Auburn beating Alabama is the most likely upset this week. While this doesn't help us get a home game, it locks us into the playoffs 100% since they won't be in the SECCG to possibly jump us with a win there. Not worried about Miami jumping us anymore.

 

[Wild Bill]

Pitt has gonna get shit pumped by Miami.

I think Washington over Oregon is most likely upset. Followed by Miss State if Ole Miss just no shows.

I don’t know how LSU manages to score an offensive point to help us.

Vegas agrees by a very slim margin.

Oregon is -6.5.
Miami is -7
Ole Miss -7
Sooners -10

I think Pitt's offensive line has issues iwth Miami's D line but I also think Beck will throw a couple balls right at Pitt defenders. I think it's a one possession game that Pitt wins if they convert turnovers into points.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm rooting for Pitt so all the crybaby Miami fans and the ACC Twitter account STFU.

The biggest unknown is if all the Kiffin speculation has affected Ole Miss?

 

[russianirish]

Edit - brevity

Miami makes the ACC Championship Game if:
– Miami beats Pitt, AND
– At least TWO of these happen:
1) Duke loses to Wake Forest
2) SMU loses to Cal
3) Virginia loses to Virginia Tech

If that happens, Miami is in Charlotte. Which opponent they get depends on WHICH two (or all three) of Duke/SMU/Virginia lose.

Cal just fired Wilcox don't see them beating SMU.