2025 College Football Playoffs

Wild Bill

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i'm a damn broken record but just have USC take care of The Ducks tomorrow and have 'duzzi and The Panthers knock off GT and Miami in consecutive weeks and we're all set!
USC beating the Ducks alone would be enough to all but guarantee a spot for 10-2 ND. Oregon, Ole Miss, Oklahoma or Texas Tech losing in teh regular season (not Big12CCG) would all result in ND jumping the losing team, imo. The ACC stuff may help but really doesn't matter for locking up a spot or seeding.
 

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USC beating the Ducks alone would be enough to all but guarantee a spot for 10-2 ND. Oregon, Ole Miss, Oklahoma or Texas Tech losing in teh regular season (not Big12CCG) would all result in ND jumping the losing team, imo. The ACC stuff may help but really doesn't matter for locking up a spot or seeding.
AND it places USC between us and Miami most likely as an additional buffer.
 

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Would be interesting to see who would be in a top 64 "Premier League". What would you change in this setup?

ACC
Clemson
Duke
Georgia Tech
Maryland
UNC
NC State
Virginia
Wake Forrest

Big 8
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.

Big 10
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Northwestern
Michigan
Minnessota
Ohio State
Wisconsin

Independents
Boston College
Florida State
Miami
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Penn State
Pitt
Purdue

PAC 8
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Washington
Washington St.

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisville
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech

SEC West
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Baylor
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
SMU

SWC
Arizona
Arizona State
BYU
Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah

First out: Rutgers, Cincinnati, Syracuse, West Virginia
 

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Would be interesting to see who would be in a top 64 "Premier League". What would you change in this setup?

ACC
Clemson
Duke
Georgia Tech
Maryland
UNC
NC State
Virginia
Wake Forrest

Big 8
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.

Big 10
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Northwestern
Michigan
Minnessota
Ohio State
Wisconsin

Independents
Boston College
Florida State
Miami
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Penn State
Pitt
Purdue

PAC 8
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Washington
Washington St.

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisville
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech

SEC West
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Baylor
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
SMU

SWC
Arizona
Arizona State
BYU
Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah

First out: Rutgers, Cincinnati, Syracuse, West Virginia
64 seems like too many teams for a Tier 1 "Premier League."
 

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Well, you've got 265 schools playing D1 football of some sort (FBS, FCS). Cutting that to the top 25% isn't bad.

True. It's definitely a start. Just seems watered down w/ half of those 64 teams being programs that would have absolutely no chance at competing for a divisional championship, let alone a national one. Hence a relegation and multi-tiered system. 32 teams also seems to work well with the NFL and their respective divisions/ cross-divisional scheduling.

Just randomly asked ChatGPT to rank the Top 32 teams in FBS over the last 20 years. It's pretty much what you'd expect with heavy hitters in terms of strongest programs.

Edit: Going back through your list, it would be hard to remove half of those teams. I guess even the NFL has the Jets and the Browns. Haha..
 
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Correct, and IMO it would be better than the current shitshow, which is leading to more and more watered down schedules and other nonsense.

I think you either need to go with an NFL model or you need to revert back to 10 team conferences. This inbetween is awful for everyone.
I don't think there is any going back. It would make sense to do that, and I completely agree with you, but it isn't happening. Can't put the shit back into the donkey at this point.
 

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True. It's definitely a start. Just seems watered down w/ half of those 64 teams being programs that would have absolutely no chance at competing for a divisional championship, let alone a national one. Hence a relegation and multi-tiered system. 32 teams also seems to work well with the NFL and their respective divisions/ cross-divisional scheduling.

Just randomly asked ChatGPT to rank the Top 32 teams in FBS over the last 20 years. It's pretty much what you'd expect with heavy hitters in turns of strongest programs.

Edit: Going back through your list, it would be hard to remove half of those teams. I guess even the NFL has the Jets and the Browns. Haha..
I’m just looking for a way to incorporate the best parts of college football with the desire for a playoff and true championship, without just becoming a NFL lite. I’d prefer no committees and a throwback to the older, regional conferences. It’s obviously never going to happen, just something to waste time discussing.
 

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I don't think there is any going back. It would make sense to do that, and I completely agree with you, but it isn't happening. Can't put the shit back into the donkey at this point.
The only way it happens is if all the schools get together and have a single TV deal and equal revenue sharing. So, never going to happen.
 

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I’m just looking for a way to incorporate the best parts of college football with the desire for a playoff and true championship, without just becoming a NFL lite. I’d prefer no committees and a throwback to the older, regional conferences. It’s obviously never going to happen, just something to waste time discussing.

Yeah, it's fun discussing. The 64 team list also allows for far more rivalries to be preserved.
 

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If the goal is to find best team, then there is nothing wrong with the current system. You dont need to go past the top 10ish teams. If the goal is to reward teams with playoff bids for successful seasons, then the bubble is always going to come with complaining and whining. Conferences will not get smaller and we arent going back to regional football, at least not in our lifetime.
 

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Nothing wrong? Not even Tulane getting a spot over better P4 teams despite getting blasted by UTSA and Ole Miss?
 

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Nothing wrong? Not even Tulane getting a spot over better P4 teams despite getting blasted by UTSA and Ole Miss?
Whatever team Tulane displaces in the tournament - unless of course it is Notre Dame! - is not likely to win the national championship regardless. I think is the point.
 

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Would be interesting to see who would be in a top 64 "Premier League". What would you change in this setup?

ACC
Clemson
Duke
Georgia Tech
Maryland
UNC
NC State
Virginia
Wake Forrest

Big 8
Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.

Big 10
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Northwestern
Michigan
Minnessota
Ohio State
Wisconsin

Independents
Boston College
Florida State
Miami
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Penn State
Pitt
Purdue

PAC 8
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Washington
Washington St.

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisville
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech

SEC West
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Baylor
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
SMU

SWC
Arizona
Arizona State
BYU
Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Texas Tech
Utah

First out: Rutgers, Cincinnati, Syracuse, West Virginia
What do you mean by first out?
Surely Cinci would be in the 64. Big town team otherwise only 1 Ohio team. They gotta be in.
 

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what is the logic of having those auto bids? Is it to encourage teams to be in those small conferences? I think Bane nails it above.
 

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What do you mean by first out?
Surely Cinci would be in the 64. Big town team otherwise only 1 Ohio team. They gotta be in.
Put them in, take someone out. Somebody gets left out if you go to 64. That’s why I like the promotion/relegation thing. Everyone has a chance to make it to the top division.
 

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At -2200 now. Not really sure what would cause such a big shift.
There were a whole bunch of people in the betting circles on social media saying "hammer ND to miss the playoffs because all that needs to happen is..." and that betting activity is likely what has moderately driven down the line.
 

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There were a whole bunch of people in the betting circles on social media saying "hammer ND to miss the playoffs because all that needs to happen is..." and that betting activity is likely what has moderately driven down the line.
I hope the opposite happens. All that needs to happen for us to move to the 6 spot is:
- OU loses 1 of last 2
- Oregon loses 1 of last 2
- Ole Miss loses Egg Bowl distracted by Lane
- Profit
 

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Guy is an F Tard. They treated him like the dumb mascot lackey on espn and he was basically a running joke who worked his way into a regular gig just like the dumb sidekick security work on Jimmy Kimmel. Now we’re supposed to take him seriously?! Not like Stanford Steve knows WTF he is doing. A girl could pick winners better by liking a teams uniform colors.
 

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Again, 1993 called. If the rule is that a team with a head-to-head win must be ranked ahead of the team they beat when they have the same number of losses, then apply that consistently. But it hasn't been applied consistently in the past, so why are we applying it now? And yeah, I know the AP poll isn't the same as the CFP rankings, but it's basically the same question.
And that was about who gets awarded the NC!
 

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Totally agreed. Autobids need to go, all of them. It's just welfare for the shitty conferences. If your conference is worth a damn, then it's champion will be in the top 12. Seeing as the ACC and Mid12 would never go for that, we at least need to have a clause where you have to be ranked in the top 20 to be eligible for an autobid.

To qualify for this gift a team must at least go undefeated otherwise sayanara!
 

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USC beating the Ducks alone would be enough to all but guarantee a spot for 10-2 ND. Oregon, Ole Miss, Oklahoma or Texas Tech losing in teh regular season (not Big12CCG) would all result in ND jumping the losing team, imo. The ACC stuff may help but really doesn't matter for locking up a spot or seeding.
I've been thinking about it all week. Because the Trojans are a 10 pt dog and there might not be so much to think about.
 

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USC beating the Ducks alone would be enough to all but guarantee a spot for 10-2 ND. Oregon, Ole Miss, Oklahoma or Texas Tech losing in teh regular season (not Big12CCG) would all result in ND jumping the losing team, imo. The ACC stuff may help but really doesn't matter for locking up a spot or seeding.
Further, if we can get a USC win and/or Mizzou over Oklahoma this week, we would potentially be in position to jump Georgia if Tech can pull off an upset next week.
 

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The worst part of these weekly rankings from espn is a full month of whining, complaining, and hypotheticals instead of people actually talking about football and matchups happening that every week. It serves the lowest common denominator.

Just win and the committee will do what it does. If your team didn't make it, go win more games next year.
 
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