Foreign Policy

[RDU Irish]

Germans prob saw this and decided to renew energy dependency on Russia. Again. At least they finally just met their military spending budget target.

They should de-industrialize more. That will lessen their dependence on Russian energy.

 

[calvegas04]

How not to clear a building

 

[BuaConstrictor]

The Houthis are in the chat?

 

[calvegas04]

 

[calvegas04]

I'd considered voting Dem for this guy, would have to look into his other polices tho

 

[Wild Bill]

I'd considered voting Dem for this guy, would have to look into his other polices tho

I get it - hard to resist another war in the Middle East. Those always work out great for us.

 

[NDVirginia19]

There are a lot of examples of this braindead stuff. The problem is the DOD will want to cut a program, but Congress keeps it in there. We've been trying to get rid of A-10s for years, but Congress time and time again blocks it. There are a lot of aging or failing or increasingly expensive platforms that don't make sense for us to retain, but god forbid there's an influential congressman in the HASC/SASC/HAC-D/SAC-D who has that manufacturer in their district...

 

[BuaConstrictor]

 

[calvegas04]

Another war about to go off in the world.

 

[Fbolt]

Another war about to go off in the world.

India and Pakistan have been fighting forever. Not new news.

 

[Fbolt]

I'd considered voting Dem for this guy, would have to look into his other polices tho

I became extremely worried about my own thought processes when Fetterman began making sense post-election. Dude is not impressive.

 

[Fbolt]

Too much and now not enough. TDS engaged.

 

[calvegas04]

Deleting, no other sources

 

[ab2cmiller]

Yikes

Appears to be BS

 

[dublinirish]

 

[calvegas04]

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/29/middleeast/overheard-sara-netanyahu-fewer-24-gaza-hostages-alive-intl/index.html

 

[calvegas04]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/29/middleeast/overheard-sara-netanyahu-fewer-24-gaza-hostages-alive-intl/index.html

Crazy the IDF couldn't take Gaza

 

[Bluto]

“To be a supporter of Israel today means to speak out against this extremist government, not to sit on the sidelines in silence or, worse still, conduct a business-as-usual relationship, meeting government officials and presenting an image of a global Jewry united behind the Israeli government.”

Ami Aylon, Former Head of Shin Bet

Opinion | I used to run Israel’s security agency – now I’m sounding the alarm about our extremist government — Guardian US

Israel’s genuine friends abroad, from governments to Jewish communities, must mobilise to help us end this terrible war, says Ami Ayalon

apple.news

 

[Irish#1]

Crazy the IDF couldn't take Gaza

I'm simply pointing out that the number of hostages still alive is less than what they thought, which is sad.

But hey, it's a small number so this doesn't bother our friend from the north.

 

[drayer54]

“To be a supporter of Israel today means to speak out against this extremist government, not to sit on the sidelines in silence or, worse still, conduct a business-as-usual relationship, meeting government officials and presenting an image of a global Jewry united behind the Israeli government.”

Ami Aylon, Former Head of Shin Bet

Opinion | I used to run Israel’s security agency – now I’m sounding the alarm about our extremist government — Guardian US

Israel’s genuine friends abroad, from governments to Jewish communities, must mobilise to help us end this terrible war, says Ami Ayalon

apple.news

Israel haters love this guy because he has been willing to give them juice for their radical views and basis for not supporting Israel because they hate Netanyahu and/or support the Israeli resistance. He is the one who said if he were Palestinian, he would fight Israel to free Palestine. A very token and notable Israeli view.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm simply pointing out that the number of hostages still alive is less than what they thought, which is sad.

But hey, it's a small number so this doesn't bother our friend from the north.

When have I ever said this in relation to the hostages?

 

[BuaConstrictor]

When have I ever said this in relation to the hostages?

He found a Twitter account with "Toronto" in the username and thinks it is you.

 

[Bluto]

Israel haters love this guy because he has been willing to give them juice for their radical views and basis for not supporting Israel because they hate Netanyahu and/or support the Israeli resistance. He is the one who said if he were Palestinian, he would fight Israel to free Palestine. A very token and notable Israeli view.

I see. Israel haters love a former Israeli military official and head of Shin Bet. That statement in an of itself makes zero sense.

His “token” view is the same view expressed by every former living head of Shin Bet and if you read the Israeli press you would quickly find that it is much more critical of its own government than the US media is.

It’s crazy how comfortable you are at just making shit up.

 

[Bluto]

I thought Rubio had some hard on for not letting people who supported terrorists/terrorist groups and criminals into the country…

Ben-Gvir convicted of inciting to racism | The Jerusalem Post

Self-declared Kahane spokesman found guilty of carrying signs that read, "Expel the Arab enemy" and "Rabbi Kahane was right: The Arab MKs are a fifth column."

m.jpost.com

 

[drayer54]

I see. Israel haters love a former Israeli military official and head of Shin Bet. That statement in an of itself makes zero sense.

His “token” view is the same view expressed by every former living head of Shin Bet and if you read the Israeli press you would quickly find that it is much more critical of its own government than the US media is.

It’s crazy how comfortable you are at just making shit up.

You love to cite the position he held without the context that this guy is notoriously nuts in his commentary. That was the point of my comment.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Why doesnt the world simply demand that Hamas surrender and end this?

 

[Bluto]

You love to cite the position he held without the context that this guy is notoriously nuts in his commentary. That was the point of my comment.

I see. So you need more context?

Here’s a two hour documentary with interviews of every former head of Shin Bet up to that point basically agreeing with this guy who you claim is “nuts”.

Again, you’re just making shit up.

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[Bluto]

Why doesnt the world simply demand that Hamas surrender and end this?

And then?

Would Hamas surrendering end the ethnic cleansing? I have my doubts considering the settler movement (many of whom like a lot of Israelis are not actually from the region) is objectively insane/racist, have been the root cause of the ongoing conflict since they assassinated Rabin and want to annex Syria as well.

I think most leaders of the security state in Israel and those involved in the settler movement (who are basically in control of the government at this point) clearly understand that if Hamas surrenders Gaza will be overrun with settlers and the Palestinians will be expelled forever from that area in fairly short order. In all likelihood this would then increase the speed and intensity with which the West Bank is ethnically cleansed and then the settlers would turn their focus to Syria. I mean the western powers have largely given Israel carte blanche to carry all this out up this point so why would the settlers think they would be restrained after the last Palestinian is driven from Gaza?

Also, I can’t imagine that Muslims from around the world would just site and watch if the al-Aqsa masque at Haram al-Sharif was destroyed, which is something that right wingers in Israel aligned with the settler movement have been advocating for and or attempting to do for several decades now.

Would any of that make Israel more secure and Jews around the globe safer? I personally don’t think so.

 

[Sea Turtle]

And then?

Would Hamas surrendering end the ethnic cleansing? I have my doubts considering the settler movement (many of whom like a lot of Israelis are not actually from the region) is objectively insane/racist, have been the root cause of the ongoing conflict since they assassinated Rabin and want to annex Syria as well.

I think most leaders of the security state in Israel and those involved in the settler movement (who are basically in control of the government at this point) clearly understand that if Hamas surrenders Gaza will be overrun with settlers and the Palestinians will be expelled forever from that area in fairly short order. In all likelihood this would then increase the speed and intensity with which the West Bank is ethnically cleansed and then the settlers would turn their focus to Syria. I mean the western powers have largely given Israel carte blanche to carry all this out up this point so why would the settlers think they would be restrained after the last Palestinian is driven from Gaza?

Also, I can’t imagine that Muslims from around the world would just site and watch if the al-Aqsa masque at Haram al-Sharif was destroyed, which is something that right wingers in Israel aligned with the settler movement have been advocating for and or attempting to do for several decades now.

Would any of that make Israel more secure and Jews around the globe safer? I personally don’t think so.

Thanks for the post.

It comes down to this.
There comes a time where the people you govern and claim to represent are suffering so badly by a war that you started, that you must capitulate to your enemy and end it. The only example that I can think of where a government took its entire people down with the ship with them was Nazi germany. Even the Japanese capitulated after two atomic bombs.

I don't believe that Israel would forcibly remove all of the gazans if Hamas surrendered. I do believe that they would allow people to leave on their own volition. This is what terrifies everybody and it's wrong and selfish.

Before the war, 1 in 3 wanted to leave. Now it's 1 in 2. Do you believe that they should be forced to live there and not go anywhere else? Is anyone else on earth forced to stay in one small area?

Forget ethnic cleansing and the 'resistance'. Israel won the Civil War 77 years ago. They have soundly defeated every nation in the region since. Multiple times. They have over 100 nuclear missiles that can be fired on land and with their Dolphin Subs. They aren't going anywhere. Ever. They even have doomsday plans in case the world comes at them with said nuclear missles.

This isn't South africa. This isn't Algeria. This isn't Vietnam or whatever noble cause leftists want to romanticize and to have hope for toppling or boycotting out of existence.

So let's say they all left and started new lives somewhere. Some sad, some angry, some relieved and some hopeful. And then let's say Israel did annex it. Would that really be worse than what has happened to them this last year and a half? Even worse than before the war when 1 in 3 wanted to leave?