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BuaConstrictor

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How fucking retarded are you?

Oh, were we directly involved in the Yemini Civil War? Seems a Yemeni deal?

Why are we expanding our involvement?

"internationally recognized government of Yemen supported by the United States, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Nations, is massing upwards of 80,000 troops for a major offensive"


...."reports are suggesting that the U.S. Air Force is already aiding the Yemeni Armed Forces with intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance (ISTAR) flights over Houthi-controlled territory in Western Yemen, while recent drone and airstrikes against the Houthis have targeted frontline positions and could be described as “shaping” to support a future offensive."

So expanded roles in wars around the world are good now?
 

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How fucking retarded are you?

Oh, were we directly involved in the Yemini Civil War? Seems a Yemeni deal?

Why are we expanding our involvement?

"internationally recognized government of Yemen supported by the United States, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Nations, is massing upwards of 80,000 troops for a major offensive"


...."reports are suggesting that the U.S. Air Force is already aiding the Yemeni Armed Forces with intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance (ISTAR) flights over Houthi-controlled territory in Western Yemen, while recent drone and airstrikes against the Houthis have targeted frontline positions and could be described as “shaping” to support a future offensive."

So expanded roles in wars around the world are good now?
We should just let our commercial shipping interests get shot at freely without doing anything about it?
 

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How fucking retarded are you?
Very
Oh, were we directly involved in the Yemini Civil War? Seems a Yemeni deal?
When the terrorist death cult started shooting at innocent commercial shipping, it fits within the constabulary role of the US Navy to maintain freedom of Navigation
Why are we expanding our involvement?
Because the Houthis started shooting at innocent commercial shipping and US warships
So expanded roles in wars around the world are good now?
When the terrorist death cult is shooting at innocent commercial shipping and US warships, yes
 

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@Irish#1 - since you booed my post, I'm assuming you'd have a different opinion than the one you shared below? If not, how is someone supposed to interpret a statement like this as anything but anti-Muslim?

There appears to be a concerted effort to displace the basic foundation of the laws, religion and culture in England and turn it into a Muslim country ruled by Sharia law.
 

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@Irish#1 - since you booed my post, I'm assuming you'd have a different opinion than the one you shared below? If not, how is someone supposed to interpret a statement like this as anything but anti-Muslim?
Are you okay with throwing away hundreds of years of English law to implement Sharia law? There's plenty of videos out there with men declaring their purpose is to replace the current government with Sharia law. Sharia law isn't purely a religious thing. It crosses over into cultural beliefs and political law. From what I've seen, English people aren't happy with the streets getting tied up because it's prayer time. I don't know about you, but if I'm trying to get somewhere for an appointment and I'm stuck because the street is full of people trying to pray, I'm not going to be happy. After all, the streets were made for driving. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues are made for praying.

Bottom line....I'm not against browns or Muslims. I'm not a fan of people coming to another country and trying to implement their own laws and rules. Immigrants from the 19th and 20th centuries were happy to acclimate to the laws of the U.S.. I'd say the same if it was Russians or Chinese trying to implement communism.
 

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Are you okay with throwing away hundreds of years of English law to implement Sharia law?
That's not happening.

There's plenty of videos out there with men declaring their purpose is to replace the current government with Sharia law
Post some.

Also, there are plenty of videos of people in the US advocating for Christian Nationalism. Are you ok with that?

From what I've seen
You have already admitted to not doing any research on the topic. What have you "seen?"
I'm not a fan of people coming to another country and trying to implement their own laws and rules
That's not happening.

In both cases, the courts decisions aren't legally binding as far as I am aware of. I think in the case of the Orthodox Jewish courts some of the civil decisions can be affirmed by the legal system if they agree prior to the decision. Most of them are treated as arbitration hearings.

I think people are taking the term "court" too literally. These are really more just religious arbitration boards.
.I'm not against browns or Muslims.
You definitely are.

Immigrants from the 19th and 20th centuries were happy to acclimate to the laws of the U.S
Uhh...might want to check into the class systems that existed during those times....
 
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Are you okay with throwing away hundreds of years of English law to implement Sharia law? There's plenty of videos out there with men declaring their purpose is to replace the current government with Sharia law. Sharia law isn't purely a religious thing. It crosses over into cultural beliefs and political law. From what I've seen, English people aren't happy with the streets getting tied up because it's prayer time. I don't know about you, but if I'm trying to get somewhere for an appointment and I'm stuck because the street is full of people trying to pray, I'm not going to be happy. After all, the streets were made for driving. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues are made for praying.

Bottom line....I'm not against browns or Muslims. I'm not a fan of people coming to another country and trying to implement their own laws and rules. Immigrants from the 19th and 20th centuries were happy to acclimate to the laws of the U.S.. I'd say the same if it was Russians or Chinese trying to implement communism.

No? I don't want any religion to force their beliefs onto everyone. That's the beauty of the US and it's founding fathers. I don't think it's a sound strategy to say "Muslims want Sharia Law" because you've seen some videos. I have yet to see someone rise to the level of prominence that Doug Mastriano got to. I imagine you would take issue with him? I don't call my family and friends who are more religious than myself as supporters of the most militant aspects of the religion. It would be pretty strange if someone started calling me a "modern crusader" because of some extreme person.

Is it part of the "vortex" if I mention how saying people coming to another country and implementing their own laws and rules is at odds with immigrants from the 19th century? Do you think that the large settlements of German people in Minnesota had anything to do with how the state developed? How about Italian immigration to NYC?

Which immigration laws did these immigrants have to abide by? What situation are you pointing to as an example of immigrants are supposed to behave? Do you think people back then were more accepting than today?
 

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Bua, your lack of an ability to actually engage in a true dialogue where you actually support your positions is humorous. You've proven yourself to be a political hack that's worthy of a chuckle, at best.

Stick to football posts. Those I enjoy.
 

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Bua, your lack of an ability to actually engage in a true dialogue where you actually support your positions is humorous. You've proven yourself to be a political hack that's worthy of a chuckle, at best.

Stick to football posts. Those I enjoy.
I might have missed it, but multiple people have responded to you and you haven't engaged back?
 

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Two people have responded to posts, which asked some questions about their posts (me attempting to fully understand their point). Nobody answered my questions, instead attempted to redirect. I have a political affinity but am willing to debate and call out any and every side (or give props to). If your answers are all about F off, F yourself, and the like - these actions demonstrate one's lack of intellectual curiosity and unwillingness to learn, see a differing viewpoint, and have a reasonable/rational discussion.
I'm the only one here who continuously cites evidence by embedding links/citations in my posts.

Maybe go fuck yourself.
Point, Match, Game over.
 
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No? I don't want any religion to force their beliefs onto everyone. That's the beauty of the US and it's founding fathers. I don't think it's a sound strategy to say "Muslims want Sharia Law" because you've seen some videos. I have yet to see someone rise to the level of prominence that Doug Mastriano got to. I imagine you would take issue with him? I don't call my family and friends who are more religious than myself as supporters of the most militant aspects of the religion. It would be pretty strange if someone started calling me a "modern crusader" because of some extreme person.

Is it part of the "vortex" if I mention how saying people coming to another country and implementing their own laws and rules is at odds with immigrants from the 19th century? Do you think that the large settlements of German people in Minnesota had anything to do with how the state developed? How about Italian immigration to NYC?

Which immigration laws did these immigrants have to abide by? What situation are you pointing to as an example of immigrants are supposed to behave? Do you think people back then were more accepting than today?
I didn't mention any immigration laws. I may be wrong, but from what you posted it looks to me that we basically agree. No?
 

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I didn't mention any immigration laws. I may be wrong, but from what you posted it looks to me that we basically agree. No?
Which parts do you think I’m agreeing with you on?

Do you think it is ok to paint religious groups by their most militant and extreme views? If not, why is it ok to do this with Muslim people?
 

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Which parts do you think I’m agreeing with you on?

Do you think it is ok to paint religious groups by their most militant and extreme views? If not, why is it ok to do this with Muslim people?
You..." I don't want any religion to force their beliefs onto everyone."

The only religious movement I see being reported is on Muslims. I haven't seen any reports of Jews, Hindus, Catholics, etc. declaring they want to take over or impose their religion on others. Why do they have a right to disrupt other peoples lives? Muslims praying in the street or chanting with loud speakers is imposing your religious beliefs on others. If you don't agree with that, so be it.

I could be missing something, but I've not read anything that has talked about Muslims trying to stop the militants. Militants are the ones trying to go to the extreme, but the non-violent Muslims are also disrupting peoples lives.
 

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You..." I don't want any religion to force their beliefs onto everyone."

The only religious movement I see being reported is on Muslims. I haven't seen any reports of Jews, Hindus, Catholics, etc. declaring they want to take over or impose their religion on others. Why do they have a right to disrupt other peoples lives? Muslims praying in the street or chanting with loud speakers is imposing your religious beliefs on others. If you don't agree with that, so be it.

I could be missing something, but I've not read anything that has talked about Muslims trying to stop the militants. Militants are the ones trying to go to the extreme, but the non-violent Muslims are also disrupting peoples lives.

Correct, I don't want anyone to force their religious beliefs onto me. I still have yet to see a North American or British person in government try to enact Sharia Law. The onus is on you to provide examples or support that show there is a concerted effort to change the government towards Sharia Law. Where is the proof that this is happening.

Catholic - Dobbs in 2022, Doug Mastriano's campaign

Jewish - Plenty of people have taken Zionist stances (the most militant version of Judaism)

So, do you think it would be prudent for all catholics to be assessed by Mastriano's positions, or all jewish people to be classified as supporters of zionism?

Also - what are you reading that hasn't mentioned Muslims trying to stop the militants? Do you think Syrians just enjoy conflict? Do you believe that every country acts in unison?
 

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Having lived in some of the most extreme Muslim locations in the world, I have never seen Muslims praying in and clogging the streets. Where is this supposedly happening?
 

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Having lived in some of the most extreme Muslim locations in the world, I have never seen Muslims praying in and clogging the streets. Where is this supposedly happening?

European and Canadian cities.
 
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