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Vintage era cards came back from PSA today. The Nolan Ryan was unable to be graded. Something to do with the card thickness. The rest came back as initially expected! Which makes me want to break slab and resubmit my modern era cards. I'm still upset about some of those lower grades.

71 Topps Swoboda - PSA 6. (I found this card in a shoebox). 130point value is roughly $35. Nothing crazy
71 Topps Dick Allen - PSA 7 (Also found this card in a shoebox). 130point value is roughly $200-$250
71 Topps Rookies Don Baylor, Dusty Baker, Tom Paciorek - PSA 6. 130 point value currently decreased from the time I sent it in to about $150. Still decent though.

Pretty happy with these. If I can get my higher value cards sold, I might net about $1200. Not the "couple grand" I originally thought I might get, but not chump change either. We'll see. This has been quite the learning experience.
 

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Leaf Vivid 2024 has CJ Carr autos on their checklist. It’s an unlicensed product, but still pretty cool.
 

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Vintage era cards came back from PSA today. The Nolan Ryan was unable to be graded. Something to do with the card thickness. The rest came back as initially expected! Which makes me want to break slab and resubmit my modern era cards. I'm still upset about some of those lower grades.

71 Topps Swoboda - PSA 6. (I found this card in a shoebox). 130point value is roughly $35. Nothing crazy
71 Topps Dick Allen - PSA 7 (Also found this card in a shoebox). 130point value is roughly $200-$250
71 Topps Rookies Don Baylor, Dusty Baker, Tom Paciorek - PSA 6. 130 point value currently decreased from the time I sent it in to about $150. Still decent though.

Pretty happy with these. If I can get my higher value cards sold, I might net about $1200. Not the "couple grand" I originally thought I might get, but not chump change either. We'll see. This has been quite the learning experience.
Would you mind sharing photos of the graded cards? I’ve always been curious to see what a true PSA grade looks like, as I feel like all the examples of lower grades on their website still look immaculate compared to most of what I have.
 

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Would you mind sharing photos of the graded cards? I’ve always been curious to see what a true PSA grade looks like, as I feel like all the examples of lower grades on their website still look immaculate compar

Post #127 has a photo of the cards I sent in. I don't really have the proper camera and lighting to show my cards and their defects. With that said, after this experience 1) I still have no idea what to look for and what to expect because I think most of the time, even with their standards in place, it's still somewhat subjective 2) vintage cards appear to have more grace than modern cards and 3) I probably won't pay to send in anymore cards unless I know it's a 9 or 10....which most of what I have left almost certainly will not get those grades. It's expensive and far more difficult to sell them than I had expected. (I had about 100 cards I wanted to sell, 20 of which were graded, and I've sold a grand total of 3)
 

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Just a heads up if you are looking for a solid new card release with a lot of Notre Dame goodness, the 2024 Bowman Chrome University Football dropped a few weeks ago and looks awesome, reasonably priced, lots on ebay, etc. etc. etc. Has Leonard, Love, Morrison, Angelli, Mitchell and Evans autos. The Love stuff is going like hot cakes. Anywho, checklist below!

Shiny cardboard is life
 

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Anyone have an experience getting cards graded? Not sports cards, but I just discovered that I have the most highly sought after modern Pokemon card in my collection. Debating if I should go with PSA or BGS. PSA is the more widely used grader in the Pokemon space. They're also easier graders according to the reading I've done. The card is pack fresh so I'm fairly sure it would get a PSA 10.

PSA 10s are going for about $5,300 right now. PSA's "insurance" structure though is exorbitant. Basically charging you more based on how valuable the card is? Unless I'm misunderstanding. A card that valuable would be like $350 to get graded.

BGS are tougher graders but are much cheaper. A BGS black label sold for over $10k. I doubt this card would get that. The centering isn't a 10. But BGS 10 gold labels are above $7,000 right now.

Never gotten anything graded before.
 

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Anyone have an experience getting cards graded? Not sports cards, but I just discovered that I have the most highly sought after modern Pokemon card in my collection. Debating if I should go with PSA or BGS. PSA is the more widely used grader in the Pokemon space. They're also easier graders according to the reading I've done. The card is pack fresh so I'm fairly sure it would get a PSA 10.

PSA 10s are going for about $5,300 right now. PSA's "insurance" structure though is exorbitant. Basically charging you more based on how valuable the card is? Unless I'm misunderstanding. A card that valuable would be like $350 to get graded.

BGS are tougher graders but are much cheaper. A BGS black label sold for over $10k. I doubt this card would get that. The centering isn't a 10. But BGS 10 gold labels are above $7,000 right now.

Never gotten anything graded before.
Regarding bolded, don't be so sure. I grade my son's cards occasionally and I probably get back as many 9s as I do 10s fresh out of a pack. Probably more 9s tbh.

PSA is bullshit but if you intend to sell it, use them. Market for it will be bigger. They are typically more lenient on centering too.
 

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Sorry, but couldn't resist this post. I began collecting baseball cards as a 12 year old in 1952. We had a little neighborhood baseball league where we played "our" teams using regular cards but stacked up our "lineups" using the bubble gum cards we had. --- kept scores, batting averages, the whole works. Because whole teams were in your line-up plus subs (there were rules for pinch hitters and relief pitchers), there was extra incentive to get whole teams if you could --- trading with buddies for a player you didn't have was common and ruthless.

So, I tried to get a New York Giants line-up --- surprisingly hard. I had to trade back to get their centerfielder who was a rookie the previously bubble-gum year. Card looked a bit weird compared to the 1952s, but at least I had their young centerfielder, a guy named Mays. It was a Bowman bubble gum 1951 card in reasonably good shape.

I saved all those cards and in 1958 went to Notre Dame (of course NOT taking them but storing them safely away.) Four years later, I graduated and went on to Grad School, still leaving the cards (without much thought) behind. While at grad school, the family moved.
During that move, and shrouded in mystery ........... poof.

Just looked it up on Google


$204,000.


Actually shook me up a little
 

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My dad claims he had a shoe box of old cards back in the day with at least 10 mickey mantle rookie cards in it
 

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Well, the Mays card was just one of the entire 1952 and some of the 1951 years, plus all the current football cards as well.

Don't really want to think about adding that up. Hopefully someone else is enjoying them, and not just greed.
 

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Anyone have an experience getting cards graded? Not sports cards, but I just discovered that I have the most highly sought after modern Pokemon card in my collection. Debating if I should go with PSA or BGS. PSA is the more widely used grader in the Pokemon space. They're also easier graders according to the reading I've done. The card is pack fresh so I'm fairly sure it would get a PSA 10.

PSA 10s are going for about $5,300 right now. PSA's "insurance" structure though is exorbitant. Basically charging you more based on how valuable the card is? Unless I'm misunderstanding. A card that valuable would be like $350 to get graded.

BGS are tougher graders but are much cheaper. A BGS black label sold for over $10k. I doubt this card would get that. The centering isn't a 10. But BGS 10 gold labels are above $7,000 right now.

Never gotten anything graded before.
Not a big graded collector but from what I can tell for accounts I follow on X is that PSA is far and away the most respected based on market share. That said, I’ve heard a lot of complaints about them lately where a lot of folks who were sure they had a Gem Mint 10 were pissed when it came back 8.5. Only graded card I’ve purchased is a Gem Mint Mookie Betts rookie. I prefer the vintage stuff (1951-1977) in all three major sports.
 

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Anyone have an experience getting cards graded? Not sports cards, but I just discovered that I have the most highly sought after modern Pokemon card in my collection. Debating if I should go with PSA or BGS. PSA is the more widely used grader in the Pokemon space. They're also easier graders according to the reading I've done. The card is pack fresh so I'm fairly sure it would get a PSA 10.

PSA 10s are going for about $5,300 right now. PSA's "insurance" structure though is exorbitant. Basically charging you more based on how valuable the card is? Unless I'm misunderstanding. A card that valuable would be like $350 to get graded.

BGS are tougher graders but are much cheaper. A BGS black label sold for over $10k. I doubt this card would get that. The centering isn't a 10. But BGS 10 gold labels are above $7,000 right now.

Never gotten anything graded before.

I have zero knowledge on the Pokemon front, but my recent PSA grading experience is documented in this thread. It was eye opening to say the least. Congrats on the card though! Whether a 10 or 9, it still sounds like a great pull. Will you sell it? If so, keep expectations in line. Card dealers are in the business of making money, so for you to get full return, you probably have to sell it on your own and somewhere that won't charge a crazy commission. Selling cards on eBay was much more difficult than I expected. I had better luck on FB Marketplace.

Regarding bolded, don't be so sure. I grade my son's cards occasionally and I probably get back as many 9s as I do 10s fresh out of a pack. Probably more 9s tbh.

PSA is bullshit but if you intend to sell it, use them. Market for it will be bigger. They are typically more lenient on centering too.

Agreed. I sent in a couple "fresh out of the pack" cards that I was certain would be a 10. Edges, centering, gloss, etc. all pristine. Came back a 9, another an 8!

PSA does have the bigger market share and more respect among collectors. You also pay for that during grading. My experience with grading junk wax and modern cards didn't go as planned. I pretty much only care about vintage now.


Not a big graded collector but from what I can tell for accounts I follow on X is that PSA is far and away the most respected based on market share. That said, I’ve heard a lot of complaints about them lately where a lot of folks who were sure they had a Gem Mint 10 were pissed when it came back 8.5. Only graded card I’ve purchased is a Gem Mint Mookie Betts rookie. I prefer the vintage stuff (1951-1977) in all three major sports.

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I have purchased some more graded modern cards over the last few years. All PSA and all 9 or 10s (depending on what the card is). I'd like to start buying more graded vintage cards but I'm not sure where the sweet spot is for ROI. Should I be looking at 4-6? I feel like anything graded 7 or higher is outside of budget. I usually only look into 60s and 70s baseball. I'd love some 1950s cards but for my budget, I'd have to buy 1 or 2 (maybe 3) most likely and at that point, idk if it's worth it.
 
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Anyone have an experience getting cards graded? Not sports cards, but I just discovered that I have the most highly sought after modern Pokemon card in my collection. Debating if I should go with PSA or BGS. PSA is the more widely used grader in the Pokemon space. They're also easier graders according to the reading I've done. The card is pack fresh so I'm fairly sure it would get a PSA 10.

PSA 10s are going for about $5,300 right now. PSA's "insurance" structure though is exorbitant. Basically charging you more based on how valuable the card is? Unless I'm misunderstanding. A card that valuable would be like $350 to get graded.

BGS are tougher graders but are much cheaper. A BGS black label sold for over $10k. I doubt this card would get that. The centering isn't a 10. But BGS 10 gold labels are above $7,000 right now.

Never gotten anything graded before.


Depending on where you live you can also find large card shows that will often have booths from PSA or BGS and they can talk you through it. You can also show it to dealers that do a lot of grading and they can pre-grade/prep it for you, which may lead to an offer on the spot as well. At a massive card show like the National they will even do same day grading if you are leery of shipping and what not, though it is pricier of course.
 

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Not a big graded collector but from what I can tell for accounts I follow on X is that PSA is far and away the most respected based on market share. That said, I’ve heard a lot of complaints about them lately where a lot of folks who were sure they had a Gem Mint 10 were pissed when it came back 8.5. Only graded card I’ve purchased is a Gem Mint Mookie Betts rookie. I prefer the vintage stuff (1951-1977) in all three major sports.
Yeah I've heard that too. Part of me wonders if I really think it's a 10 if it wouldn't be better to send it to a more consistent grading company?
I have zero knowledge on the Pokemon front, but my recent PSA grading experience is documented in this thread. It was eye opening to say the least. Congrats on the card though! Whether a 10 or 9, it still sounds like a great pull. Will you sell it? If so, keep expectations in line. Card dealers are in the business of making money, so for you to get full return, you probably have to sell it on your own and somewhere that won't charge a crazy commission. Selling cards on eBay was much more difficult than I expected. I had better luck on FB Marketplace.
Thanks! Funny thing is I pulled it years ago and never realized how valuable it was. I was scrolling insta last week and saw a guy ripping old packs to try and find one, and I was like hey that looks familiar lol.

I will probably end up selling it. I don't have any real attachment to that card. I think the value will continue to go up, but it's a modern card so there will always be way more supply than vintage cards. It's from 2019.

If I get it graded I'll probably sit on it until this time next year. The card is a latias & latios full art, but people call it the "lovers duo". So I think a big part of what's driving it's price explosion right now is people buying it for Valentine's Day.
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Depending on where you live you can also find large card shows that will often have booths from PSA or BGS and they can talk you through it. You can also show it to dealers that do a lot of grading and they can pre-grade/prep it for you, which may lead to an offer on the spot as well. At a massive card show like the National they will even do same day grading if you are leery of shipping and what not, though it is pricier of course.
That's an interesting idea. Yeah I would feel more comfortable not having to ship it.
 

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I have purchased some more graded modern cards over the last few years. All PSA and all 9 or 10s (depending on what the card is). I'd like to start buying more graded vintage cards but I'm not sure where the sweet spot is for ROI. Should I be looking at 4-6? I feel like anything graded 7 or higher is outside of budget. I usually only look into 60s and 70s baseball. I'd love some 1950s cards but for my budget, I'd have to buy 1 or 2 (maybe 3) most likely and at that point, idk if it's worth it.
You have the right idea. With vintage, a mid-grade is awesome. I have a graded 1968 Mantle. It’s a 5 but it looks great considering the age. @Armyirish47 is spot on w/ some good advice. Local shows are a great start. Remember they paid a vendor fee so they need to recoup their investment before they can build on their profit. Be patient and you’ll get a good deal. Then if you have an opportunity to go to the National or one of the huge Dallas Card Shows, they are worth the travel.
 

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Yeah I've heard that too. Part of me wonders if I really think it's a 10 if it wouldn't be better to send it to a more consistent grading company?

Thanks! Funny thing is I pulled it years ago and never realized how valuable it was. I was scrolling insta last week and saw a guy ripping old packs to try and find one, and I was like hey that looks familiar lol.

I will probably end up selling it. I don't have any real attachment to that card. I think the value will continue to go up, but it's a modern card so there will always be way more supply than vintage cards. It's from 2019.

If I get it graded I'll probably sit on it until this time next year. The card is a latias & latios full art, but people call it the "lovers duo". So I think a big part of what's driving it's price explosion right now is people buying it for Valentine's Day.
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That's an interesting idea. Yeah I would feel more comfortable not having to ship it.

You don't have to lie. Your kids got that our of a recent McDonald's happy meal, didn't they?


You have the right idea. With vintage, a mid-grade is awesome. I have a graded 1968 Mantle. It’s a 5 but it looks great considering the age. @Armyirish47 is spot on w/ some good advice. Local shows are a great start. Remember they paid a vendor fee so they need to recoup their investment before they can build on their profit. Be patient and you’ll get a good deal. Then if you have an opportunity to go to the National or one of the huge Dallas Card Shows, they are worth the travel.

Exactly what I'd want. I have about ten players that I'd love to have a card just to have it. A 5 would be awesome.
 

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You don't have to lie. Your kids got that our of a recent McDonald's happy meal, didn't they?




Exactly what I'd want. I have about ten players that I'd love to have a card just to have it. A 5 would be awesome.
Haha. She's too young to care, but she's been having a lot of Happy Meals the last few weeks lol.
 

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My dad claims he had a shoe box of old cards back in the day with at least 10 mickey mantle rookie cards in it
He may have. Mickey's my guy growing up and still my favorite. I bet I had over 100 Mickey Mantle cards. I honestly don't know how many were rookie cards, probably a few. I had a box full that had all of the Yankees, but I had Koufax, Drysdale, Mays, Clemente, Yastrzemski, Banks, etc. I don't remember what happened to them, but I sure wish I would have kept them.
 

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My love for collecting has come to a point where I need a real gut check. It's fun scouring all the cards online and wanting to buy some, but there are just so many that I need to narrow down a goal. So here's what I'd like to do and if anyone is able to help, DM me. Would be much appreciated.

What I want to do, is recreate the set my dad used to have as a kid that got stolen from him. 1956 Topps baseball. Specifically the HOF'ers. My idea is to try and buy these cards either Raw or PSA1 and then over time, continually upgrade each card via trades etc (as my budget allows, of course). Ultimately, I'd be completely satisfied with PSA 3 grades for every card I can collect in that set. I love the idea of starting small and gradually trading up over time. It'll give my kids and I something to do (as they've recently gotten into cards). The big names in that 2-3 grade range are typically $500-$750 give or take. I'm not trying to spend $10,000 up front all at once. That takes the fun out of the hunt.

The card shops around Indy are notorious for gouging. I haven't attempted any flea markets or garage sales yet. I'm a little nervous getting scammed with re-prints online, which is why I kind of want to get PSA1 and not Raw. But if someone has a lead on any of these, I'd be curious what it'd cost to get this ball rolling.

Here's the current list (potential to add a few more HOF guys):
Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Sandy Koufax, Don Newcombe, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Gil Hodges, Whitey Ford, Phil Rizzuto, Duke Snider.
 
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My love for collecting has come to a point where I need a real gut check. It's fun scouring all the cards online and wanting to buy some, but there are just so many that I need to narrow down a goal. So here's what I'd like to do and if anyone is able to help, DM me. Would be much appreciated.

What I want to do, is recreate the set my dad used to have as a kid that got stolen from him. 1956 Topps baseball. Specifically the HOF'ers. My idea is to try and buy these cards either Raw or PSA1 and then over time, continually upgrade each card via trades etc (as my budget allows, of course). Ultimately, I'd be completely satisfied with PSA 3 grades for every card I can collect in that set. I love the idea of starting small and gradually trading up over time. It'll give my kids and I something to do (as they've recently gotten into cards). The big names in that 2-3 grade range are typically $500-$750 give or take. I'm not trying to spend $10,000 up front all at once. That takes the fun out of the hunt.

The card shops around Indy are notorious for gouging. I haven't attempted any flea markets or garage sales yet. I'm a little nervous getting scammed with re-prints online, which is why I kind of want to get PSA1 and not Raw. But if someone has a lead on any of these, I'd be curious what it'd cost to get this ball rolling.

Here's the current list (potential to add a few more HOF guys):
Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Sandy Koufax, Don Newcombe, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Gil Hodges, Whitey Ford, Phil Rizzuto, Duke Snider.
I think I have. ‘56 Ernie Bamks. I’ll check when I get home. I know I have his rookie card.
 

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My love for collecting has come to a point where I need a real gut check. It's fun scouring all the cards online and wanting to buy some, but there are just so many that I need to narrow down a goal. So here's what I'd like to do and if anyone is able to help, DM me. Would be much appreciated.

What I want to do, is recreate the set my dad used to have as a kid that got stolen from him. 1956 Topps baseball. Specifically the HOF'ers. My idea is to try and buy these cards either Raw or PSA1 and then over time, continually upgrade each card via trades etc (as my budget allows, of course). Ultimately, I'd be completely satisfied with PSA 3 grades for every card I can collect in that set. I love the idea of starting small and gradually trading up over time. It'll give my kids and I something to do (as they've recently gotten into cards). The big names in that 2-3 grade range are typically $500-$750 give or take. I'm not trying to spend $10,000 up front all at once. That takes the fun out of the hunt.

The card shops around Indy are notorious for gouging. I haven't attempted any flea markets or garage sales yet. I'm a little nervous getting scammed with re-prints online, which is why I kind of want to get PSA1 and not Raw. But if someone has a lead on any of these, I'd be curious what it'd cost to get this ball rolling.

Here's the current list (potential to add a few more HOF guys):
Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Sandy Koufax, Don Newcombe, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Gil Hodges, Whitey Ford, Phil Rizzuto, Duke Snider.
I’ve found fair pricing of vintage for the following eBay sellers:

tripleplayvintagestore
Battersbox
KIT YOUNG CARDS
Kyle’s Nr-Mt Cards
707SportscardsLtd

Hope that helps.
 

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I think I have. ‘56 Ernie Bamks. I’ll check when I get home. I know I have his rookie card.

That's awesome.

I’ve found fair pricing of vintage for the following eBay sellers:

tripleplayvintagestore
Battersbox
KIT YOUNG CARDS
Kyle’s Nr-Mt Cards
707SportscardsLtd

Hope that helps.

Perfect. Thanks!

I'm in the process of creating a spreadsheet to cross-reference latest eBay sales with my budget in order to maximize grade level per player. My budget has been fluid as I come to grips with some of these prices. I also realize that I'm shooting for centered cards and that comes with a premium price tag. Even if it's a PSA 1 or 2, I'm still searching for ones that prioritize centering. I've seen some PSA 4s and 5s that aren't centered at all, and I just can't bring myself to wanting a card like that, regardless of grade/price.
 

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My love for collecting has come to a point where I need a real gut check. It's fun scouring all the cards online and wanting to buy some, but there are just so many that I need to narrow down a goal. So here's what I'd like to do and if anyone is able to help, DM me. Would be much appreciated.

What I want to do, is recreate the set my dad used to have as a kid that got stolen from him. 1956 Topps baseball. Specifically the HOF'ers. My idea is to try and buy these cards either Raw or PSA1 and then over time, continually upgrade each card via trades etc (as my budget allows, of course). Ultimately, I'd be completely satisfied with PSA 3 grades for every card I can collect in that set. I love the idea of starting small and gradually trading up over time. It'll give my kids and I something to do (as they've recently gotten into cards). The big names in that 2-3 grade range are typically $500-$750 give or take. I'm not trying to spend $10,000 up front all at once. That takes the fun out of the hunt.

The card shops around Indy are notorious for gouging. I haven't attempted any flea markets or garage sales yet. I'm a little nervous getting scammed with re-prints online, which is why I kind of want to get PSA1 and not Raw. But if someone has a lead on any of these, I'd be curious what it'd cost to get this ball rolling.

Here's the current list (potential to add a few more HOF guys):
Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Sandy Koufax, Don Newcombe, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Gil Hodges, Whitey Ford, Phil Rizzuto, Duke Snider.
Looks like I have a Banks and Whitey Ford. Can send you some pics later.
 

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That's awesome.



Perfect. Thanks!

I'm in the process of creating a spreadsheet to cross-reference latest eBay sales with my budget in order to maximize grade level per player. My budget has been fluid as I come to grips with some of these prices. I also realize that I'm shooting for centered cards and that comes with a premium price tag. Even if it's a PSA 1 or 2, I'm still searching for ones that prioritize centering. I've seen some PSA 4s and 5s that aren't centered at all, and I just can't bring myself to wanting a card like that, regardless of grade/price.
Tripleplayvintage has the best prices but they tend to over rate the condition so just inspect the photos up close.

Kyle’s Nr-Mt offers vintage in the best condition so expect to pay more for better condition as you know.
 

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Tripleplayvintage has the best prices but they tend to over rate the condition so just inspect the photos up close.

Kyle’s Nr-Mt offers vintage in the best condition so expect to pay more for better condition as you know.
Good to know. Thank you.

Leaning towards graded cards at the moment, but we'll see. Still on the fence.
 

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Nephew started collecting baseball cards, his birthday is coming up and I have no idea about this stuff. What card packs should I buy for him?
 

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Topps Chrome is probably the most popular
agreed but every product has been panned this year. They’re printing waaaaay too much. The autos are almost guaranteed to be a 28-30 year old rookie who’s likely never gonna have more than a cup of coffee in the bigs. Topps Chrome blasters retailing for $39.99.
 

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My teenage son is interested in cards now (basketball only). He’s interested in finding cards, possibly getting them graded, and trying to flip to make money.

I know nothing about this world. Is that even possible? Anyone willing to share some basic tips?
 

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My teenage son is interested in cards now (basketball only). He’s interested in finding cards, possibly getting them graded, and trying to flip to make money.

I know nothing about this world. Is that even possible? Anyone willing to share some basic tips?
Have seen videos of people at stores weighing boxes to see which ones to take
 
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