UFOs, Paranormal, Pseudoscience Thread

[calvegas04]

What about the Russian teens who died in Siberia, no one knows what happened?

 

[Old Man Mike]

There is no UFO documented anywhere in that case. Why bring it up? are you the sort of fellow who attributes everything that doesn't get explained to ufos? That's a good TV comedy theme, I know, I've heard it used many times. Totally unhelpful crap however.

I by the way once had a pumpkin die in my vegetable garden. Never could figure out why. Must have been UFOs. (I mean really.) UFOs didn't shoot Kennedy either. I'm overdoing this because this is one of the most egregious kinds of declarations commonly heard with accomplishes exactly one thing: everyone rolls their eyes and tosses UFOs into the garbage heap of non-serious topics.

 

[calvegas04]

There is no UFO documented anywhere in that case. Why bring it up? are you the sort of fellow who attributes everything that doesn't get explained to ufos? That's a good TV comedy theme, I know, I've heard it used many times. Totally unhelpful crap however.

I by the way once had a pumpkin die in my vegetable garden. Never could figure out why. Must have been UFOs. (I mean really.) UFOs didn't shoot Kennedy either. I'm overdoing this because this is one of the most egregious kinds of declarations commonly heard with accomplishes exactly one thing: everyone rolls their eyes and tosses UFOs into the garbage heap of non-serious topics.

This thread is about the paranormal as well, I wasn't suggesting UFOs came down and shredded up some teens/adults

 

[Bishop2b5]

Super amazing planes. Have always loved military aircraft.

Went to an airshow there a couple years back and they had the F22 demo team. That plane did things I didn't think were even possible and still be able to stay in the air.

I've only seen an F-22 a few times, and never fortunate enough to see the demo team. You're a lucky man. B-1s are indeed amazing and beautiful. The first time I ever encountered one in person was in Montgomery back in '95. I was driving and heard something I would describe as sounding like what I imagine a black hole eating a large star would sound like. It was like the gods tearing the sky, and I kept hearing it off and on for about 10 minutes until I got where I was going. When I did, I finally spotted a B-1 cruising around in a holding pattern at about 300-400 mph at only a few thousand feet in altitude. Holy cow the noise was just hard to grasp. They're LOUD! Loudest plane I've ever heard.

 

[SDIrishFan]

I've only seen an F-22 a few times, and never fortunate enough to see the demo team. You're a lucky man. B-1s are indeed amazing and beautiful. The first time I ever encountered one in person was in Montgomery back in '95. I was driving and heard something I would describe as sounding like what I imagine a black hole eating a large star would sound like. It was like the gods tearing the sky, and I kept hearing it off and on for about 10 minutes until I got where I was going. When I did, I finally spotted a B-1 cruising around in a holding pattern at about 300-400 mph at only a few thousand feet in altitude. Holy cow the noise was just hard to grasp. They're LOUD! Loudest plane I've ever heard.

They are loud with a distinct sound. They make training runs adjacent to where I live between Ellsworth and SE Montana and it will just be a low roar for hours at times. They also do low elevation flyovers for events here. They rattle your teeth.

Actually the sound is the first thing that caught my attention with the B21. it didn’t sound like a BONE or a commercial jet. Took me forever to find it in the sky. There was no Vapor trail at first then all the sudden, twin trails. Almost like they were testing things.

 

[arahop]

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[arahop]

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[LOVEMYIRISH]

What about the Russian teens who died in Siberia, no one knows what happened?

Actually, they do know what happened (assuming you are referring to the Dyatlov Pass incident).

They went trekking.
They got caught in bad weather.
Their encampment got hit by a small avalanche.
They cut their way free of their tents, rather than be smothered.
They got hypothermia. (which ended in death when they stripped off their clothes in response)
They were discovered dead.
Some bodies were partly eaten by animals.

 

[IrishWayDomer]

Actually, they do know what happened (assuming you are referring to the Dyatlov Pass incident).

They went trekking.
They got caught in bad weather.
Their encampment got hit by a small avalanche.
They cut their way free of their tents, rather than be smothered.
They got hypothermia. (which ended in death when they stripped off their clothes in response)
They were discovered dead.
Some bodies were partly eaten by animals.

I've always been fascinated with that story and probably listened to 3 different podcasts and 4 or so separate documentaries on it. We absolutely do not know what happened with any confidence. And the eye balls and tongues missing is pretty bizarre and doesn't really fit the quick solves.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I've always been fascinated with that story and probably listened to 3 different podcasts and 4 or so separate documentaries on it. We absolutely do not know what happened with any confidence. And the eye balls and tongues missing is pretty bizarre and doesn't really fit the quick solves.

I don't know about tongues but the eyes are the first thing to be eaten. Soft, wet and easily plucked.

I live way out in the country. On my 20 acres I find rabbits dead with the eyes plucked out by birds of prey.

 

[calvegas04]

I've always been fascinated with that story and probably listened to 3 different podcasts and 4 or so separate documentaries on it. We absolutely do not know what happened with any confidence. And the eye balls and tongues missing is pretty bizarre and doesn't really fit the quick solves.

I know the history channel goes right to Bigfoot

 

[arahop]

Actually, they do know what happened (assuming you are referring to the Dyatlov Pass incident).

They went trekking.
They got caught in bad weather.
Their encampment got hit by a small avalanche.
They cut their way free of their tents, rather than be smothered.
They got hypothermia. (which ended in death when they stripped off their clothes in response)
They were discovered dead.
Some bodies were partly eaten by animals.

You ever see the photos?

 

[arahop]

Just a reminder about 2 posts up we have a 1st hand witness who recovered a UFO/UAP that isn't human. Y'all good?

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I've always been fascinated with that story and probably listened to 3 different podcasts and 4 or so separate documentaries on it. We absolutely do not know what happened with any confidence. And the eye balls and tongues missing is pretty bizarre and doesn't really fit the quick solves.

If you watch the documentary on Discovery (maybe History channel?) you will see a young female pathologist. That's my sister. She's a medical examiner now and specializes in untimely deaths.

She went over the full records for the show. We talked about it a few years ago, it was pretty obvious stuff.

Small animals and birds (especially birds) eat tongues and eyes of the dead. Those are the easiest parts for them to get to.

When you look at what happened, it is filled with common examples to things we tell scouts NOT to do. It sounds really exciting until you understand living outside in the extreme cold. I am from Minnesota and have camped in -30 degree weather...no wind chill...they literally did stupid things. However, keep in mind they were folks who weren't preparing well.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I don't know about tongues but the eyes are the first thing to be eaten. Soft, wet and easily plucked.

I live way out in the country. On my 20 acres I find rabbits dead with the eyes plucked out by birds of prey.

Yeah. Human eyes are easy targets. Also, when humans die they tend to die with their mouths open...so, when the weather warmed up, the eyes and tongues would be first to go.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I've always been fascinated with that story and probably listened to 3 different podcasts and 4 or so separate documentaries on it. We absolutely do not know what happened with any confidence. And the eye balls and tongues missing is pretty bizarre and doesn't really fit the quick solves.

BTW, on the eye and tongue front...

My sister gives "PSAs" from work at Sunday Dinner (we see each other most weekends).

My favorite (regarding animals) is this:
If you live alone with a dog and you are older, be aware... When owners die and the dog is trapped in the house (yes, sad) LITTLE dogs will eat the owner for food. They always start with the face. However, they run out of water before they finish.

SOOOO...whenever she gets a body that's had its fingers and face eaten, she asks the cops if they found the small dog the owner lived with.

Interestingly, big dogs rarely eat their owners. They will stave first.

 

[IrishWayDomer]

If you watch the documentary on Discovery (maybe History channel?) you will see a young female pathologist. That's my sister. She's a medical examiner now and specializes in untimely deaths.

She went over the full records for the show. We talked about it a few years ago, it was pretty obvious stuff.

Small animals and birds (especially birds) eat tongues and eyes of the dead. Those are the easiest parts for them to get to.

When you look at what happened, it is filled with common examples to things we tell scouts NOT to do. It sounds really exciting until you understand living outside in the extreme cold. I am from Minnesota and have camped in -30 degree weather...no wind chill...they literally did stupid things. However, keep in mind they were folks who weren't preparing well.

The person who lost the tongue had their stomach filled with blood, indicating it was sliced off while alive. Also, cleanly removed. And there was radiation on the site, perhaps unrelated but nothing to toss out. And the fire, and the avalanche theory is thrown out by many because the near slope is less than 20 degrees (don't quote me but this piece was addressed and dismissed as unlikely by all sources).

It's cool that your sister was one of the people who researched this, but that doesn't close the book. No one who's produced any film/audio on this has faith in their best theory. It remains a mystery and one of the theories is probably right, but no one knows for certain which.

 

[notredomer23]

Just a reminder about 2 posts up we have a 1st hand witness who recovered a UFO/UAP that isn't human. Y'all good?

Whats the source of the video? I genuinely don’t mean this disrespectfully, but when I watch that all I see is a homemade video of someone with some string and an egg attached to it. Tell me what I’m supposed to be seeing that’s convincing.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Just a reminder about 2 posts up we have a 1st hand witness who recovered a UFO/UAP that isn't human. Y'all good?

I believe but it will always be hard to convince anyone based on one clip of some obscure thing from an unknown location collected by an unknown person and “leaked”.

Some humans may not even be able to accept it if and when a “mothership” shows up in full And exposes the certainty that we are not alone.

As far as this goes I believe Barber and accept that people who vouch for him are all of solid repute.

I feel like with all the whistleblowers and stuff last year we may be seeing the soft landing humanity might require to accept that we are in fact not alone.

 

[arahop]

Whats the source of the video? I genuinely don’t mean this disrespectfully, but when I watch that all I see is a homemade video of someone with some string and an egg attached to it. Tell me what I’m supposed to be seeing that’s convincing.

Source is Special Ops Jake Barber, if you want an Alien to exit the ship it's not for you.
I'd say follow the SOL foundation.

Fravor Graves, Vallee, Astronauts Gordon Cooper, Edgar Mitchell.

They've been here at least as long as us but that's just a theory😁

 

[arahop]

I believe but it will always be hard to convince anyone based on one clip of some obscure thing from an unknown location collected by an unknown person and “leaked”.

Some humans may not even be able to accept it if and when a “mothership” shows up in full And exposes the certainty that we are not alone.

As far as this goes I believe Barber and accept that people who vouch for him are all of solid repute.

I feel like with all the whistleblowers and stuff last year we may be seeing the soft landing humanity might require to accept that we are in fact not alone.

Agreed, it's a paradigm shift for sure.
I don't know what it/they are but they ain't us,
That's my hypothesis

 

[Irish#1]

We don't know conclusively what happened at Dyatlov Pass, but I suspect it's closer to what LoveMyIrish posted than anything abnormal or unusual.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

The person who lost the tongue had their stomach filled with blood, indicating it was sliced off while alive. Also, cleanly removed. And there was radiation on the site, perhaps unrelated but nothing to toss out. And the fire, and the avalanche theory is thrown out by many because the near slope is less than 20 degrees (don't quote me but this piece was addressed and dismissed as unlikely by all sources).

It's cool that your sister was one of the people who researched this, but that doesn't close the book. No one who's produced any film/audio on this has faith in their best theory. It remains a mystery and one of the theories is probably right, but no one knows for certain which.

The person with blood in their stomach was CRUSHED by an avalanche...crushed my man. They were all swamped by snow.

The only people who make shows about it are driving engagement. It's much ado about nothing. Other than a reminder "PREPARE FOR COLD AND EMERGENCIES!!!"

 

[arahop]

This documentary will be one for the ages.

 

[GATTACA!]

LEMMiNO (who has one of the best YouTube channels out there) has a fantastic video on the Datlov Pass incident. I found his argument very compelling. He thinks a fire started in their tent.

 

[Bishop2b5]

This documentary will be one for the ages.

We've been hearing this sort of stuff for decades and in the end nothing of substance and no compelling evidence is ever produced. All tease, no substance.

 

[arahop]

We've been hearing this sort of stuff for decades and in the end nothing of substance and no compelling evidence is ever produced. All tease, no substance.

I'd challenge you to look up who those people are.
I can listen to your opinion or I can listen to some of the smartest and brightest people on the planet. Also Astronauts and The best fighter pilots in the world.

I'll go with their "opinion"
The ontological shock for the uniformed is my biggest concern.

Several 1st hand whistle blowers in there BTW.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Do any of you guys think that these UFO's could be from another dimension?

 

[NDRock]

I'd challenge you to look up who those people are.
I can listen to your opinion or I can listen to some of the smartest and brightest people on the planet. Also Astronauts and The best fighter pilots in the world.

I'll go with their "opinion"
The ontological shock for the uniformed is my biggest concern.

Several 1st hand whistle blowers in there BTW.

Wouldn't all of this be top secret information they are talking about? Shouldn't they face charges?

 

[Bishop2b5]

I'd challenge you to look up who those people are.
I can listen to your opinion or I can listen to some of the smartest and brightest people on the planet. Also Astronauts and The best fighter pilots in the world.

I'll go with their "opinion"
The ontological shock for the uniformed is my biggest concern.

Several 1st hand whistle blowers in there BTW.

That's a known logical fallacy: appeal to authority. Who they are is meaningless. The valid evidence is all that matters, and they have none. "I saw" and "I think" and "I can't explain" aren't credible evidence. Let me know when you have an actual alien, an alien body, some actual alien tissue, a real spacecraft, some wreckage that's unambiguous, some materials or technology that we can examine and are clearly alien, anything real besides very suspect grainy video and speculation without evidence. Until then, you have nothing.